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WiFi being eliminated at some Seattle coffee shops

by TONYA MOSLEY / KING 5 News

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Posted on August 9, 2010 at 7:02 PM

Updated Monday, Aug 9 at 8:04 PM

SEATTLE  - Everyday, Steve Costie drives from the University District to Ballard to experience what Cafe Fiore does not have.

"It's a quiet place where I don't have to turn my laptop on. I don't need to be connected," said Costie.

No laptop plug-ins here. This Cafe Fiore location has intentionally decided not to offer WiFi and they say business is better than ever.

"There's more talking. There's more community. It's a little slower. People are more connected, I guess, not in the internet sense of the word," says Coralie Hews of Cafe Fiore.

A growing number of shops in Seattle and the nation are forgoing WiFi or cutting it off on the weekends.

"I can see you. I can see your expressions and I can hear you and every new technology kind of takes you one step away from that," says Jason Simon, the founder of the website caffeinatedconversations.com. Simon is not opposed to technology or the use of WiFi in coffee shops, but he believes for some places, people slumped over a computer takes away from the dialogue.

"I'm always thinking that there's somebody over there (one one side of the room) on Facebook talking to someone over there (on the other side of the room)," laughs Victrola Coffee Shop manager Jeremy McDermott.

One of the issues for shops is some customers who want to use WiFi will take up an entire table for hours.

Victrola was the first shop in Seattle to cut WiFi. In the last 5 years, they've brought back and taken away WiFi three times. It's now back.

"It was more for making sure that our customers have a place to sit down and enjoy it. And kind of where it's gone for me is to not be so presumptuous as to think like we know what every customer wants," said McDermott.

Most customers we spoke with were in favor of shops offering WiFi.

"It makes a huge difference in where I decide to get coffee," says Kelsey Gibson.

"I'm getting all of my finances in order and I don't know if I have enough money for internet or not," said Doug Connelly. He recently moved to Seattle from North Carolina and uses free WiFi to check emails and connect.

What works for one shop may not work for another. Seattle Coffee Works near Pike Place Market recently made more space to accomodate WiFi users.

Costie hopes this "WiFi free" idea does indeed become a trend.

"We're always connected anyways, so I think it's nice not to be on the internet all the time," said Costie.

Other shops like Zoka's and Vivace Espresso have recently limited the amount of time customers can use their free WiFi.

 

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jcblvu said on August 12, 2010 at 8:55 AM

@voiceofreason --- Hmmm payroll, rent, cost of goods, taxes, etc. Over-simplified on your part. I agree that this really has nothing to do with the cost of the WiFi service. It does however seem to have everything to do with, yet again, people taking advantage of a situation. WiFi in coffee shops was never meant to create "Day-Stay Workspaces".

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voiceofreason said on August 10, 2010 at 12:55 PM

@CopperheadCSA-Is your mind so narrow and unimaginative that you can only conceptualize ideas mentioned within the text of the news article itself? From reading this article I can say right now there is not mention of costs, but to illustrate how tight-fisted and cheap some coffee house owner is in doing this I mentioned a theoretical coffee shop selling 20 cups an hour @ $5/per, while staying open for 10 hours a day= $1000 a day. These storekeepers are just trying to be cheap, they care not for your level of social interaction-this is the Pacific Northwest, social interaction is a non-issue out here.

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cutcutcut said on August 10, 2010 at 11:44 AM

Totally ridiculous. People over-analyzing everything. Coffee shops trying to make people interact? Please. People can make their own choices, can't they? Apparently, not in the PNW. There are more people thinking for others in this region than any other part of the country. If you don't want to connect, don't bring a device to the coffee shop. It's that simple. As for Wi-Fi squatters, there is a simple solution to this. Give an access code to get on the Wi-Fi and limit the duration to 1 or 2 hours. Peet's coffee does this, for example. An hour is plenty of time to check email, get a little work done or surf. If you need more time, ask them for one more code, they'll probably just give it to you. Not hard to figure out.

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copperheadcsa said on August 10, 2010 at 6:44 AM

voiceofreason-You sound more like "voice of didn't read the article" I don't see a single reference to cost in the story. They're trying to get people to interact personally instead of burying their heads in laptops, as well as cut down on WiFi 'squaters.' Try to remember there is a sequence to this. Turn brain on first, THEN post.

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tootoo said on August 10, 2010 at 5:46 AM

The problem is, unemployed people come in with their Macs, to work on their "big breakthrough novel/screenplay/musical," buy one cup of coffee and milk it all day. That leaves less space for legitimate customers who want to come in, grab a cup and sit down for a minute to relax. If you cut the Wifi, people will still buy coffee, the will just go squat somewhere else.

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voiceofreason said on August 10, 2010 at 2:49 AM

Who are these places kidding? With $5 cups of coffee sold all day long, I think they can afford to buy a router and service with an ISP. Lets just say they sell 20 cups of coffee @ $5/per and stay open for 10 hours in a given day-that is $1000 a day, I think they can keep the wifi flowing, don't you? Naturally there is other overhead beyond maintaining wifi but even still I am certain they can keep some wifi on....

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