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Presidential race could include two Mormon candidates

by NATASHA RYAN / KING 5 News

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Posted on June 2, 2011 at 10:54 PM

Updated Thursday, Jun 2 at 10:54 PM

KENT, Wash. -- Frank Disque sits at the ballpark cheering on his son, a senior in high school. He's like most of the other doting dads but doesn't usually share the same religion.

Disque is Mormon. He's hoping this next election, Americans will leave their stereotypes about his religion behind. Today, Mormon Mit Romney officially announced his candidacy.

Some speculate fellow Mormon and former Utah governor, Jon Huntsman won't be far behind.

"I don't know if I should be excited or surprised," said Disque.

Seattle University professor Mark Markuly isn't surprised.

"The more educated leadership has been moving into low level political positions, this is just a symbol of them moving into the next stage," Markuly said.

The last time Romney ran in 2008, he battled his religion and his opponents.  Frank has heard the same concerns, including, his religion is a cult or Mormons promote within.

Markuly reminds us John F. Kennedy, the first Roman Catholic president, faced the same type of criticism. Markuly calls it the fear of the religious other. He says we'll continue to see it as our culture continues to diversify.

"Because of demographics, we'll eventually see Hindus running," Markuly speculates.

He suspects the same fear will surface until we learn to reach across what he calls our religious divisions.

Disque says at the end of the day he just wants people to realize Mormons are normal, just like everybody else.

Several other Republicans have announced but experts are calling this a wide open race for the GOP at this point.

 

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wikblom said on June 21, 2011 at 4:22 PM

@ Bazwest. OK. My credentials are that I have a doctorate and mucho post- graduate studies. That does not change anything. The facts are that there is no credible reason to believe in god. It is just ignorant superstition. The bible is a fable concocted by ignorant tribesmen 2000 years ago. There is no plausible reason to believe in your imaginary, invisible man in the sky. You make it all up in your mind. Moreover, praying is just a silly, stupid practice that does not work.

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bazwest said on June 10, 2011 at 3:01 PM

@wikblom. Since you have proclaimed yourself to be more enlightened, smarter, and more educated than the majority of American citizens, lets have it. What are your credentials? Did you finish high school? College? Have you read the Bible cover to cover? Have you taken time to pray to God? Or have you dismissed the existence of God simply because you can't see him and you have chosen not to have faith? Do you also disbelieve all things that not visible to the naked eye? Perhaps your reasoning went something like this: "My mom told me there was a Santa Claus and an Easter Bunny and a God. Since I later discovered that Santa Claus and the Easter Bunny don't exist this proves that God doesn't exist." If thats it, your argument is pretty weak and you have grossly miscategorized yourself.

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wikblom said on June 9, 2011 at 8:31 PM

@ Bazwest. Yes, most Americans are ignorant and stupid and uneducated. Look at what juries do all the time. Look at the postings on this King 5 News forum. Most Americans don't even know who the Vice President is or the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court. So, don't use majority opinion as proof of what you believe in. There is no god or man in the sky or afterlife, and the people who believe in it just make it all up.

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bazwest said on June 9, 2011 at 6:33 PM

Yes, even wikblom is entitled to his opinion, even though I like most Americans will summarily disagree with his assertions. On a slightly different note, what does it say about a person who so smugly dismisses as "ignorant" the majority of Americans?

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wikblom said on June 9, 2011 at 3:31 PM

Treeclimber, you apparently did not go very far in school and your grammar and thinking shows it. Only the ignorant believe in heaven or hell or that there is an afterlife, so I suggest you stay out in the woods, where you belong instead of demonstrating your stupidity in a public forum.

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treeclimber said on June 8, 2011 at 7:21 AM

wikblom apparently you have chosen burning in hell over heaven, wikhlom i like all republicans can rid you of all your sins, all you have to do is give me all your money, because money is the root of all evil....and by the way bunnies have big ears santa don't.........

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wikblom said on June 7, 2011 at 4:58 PM

All religion is poison and is at the root of most of the evil in the world. The worship of a god is all fantasy and is for people who are afraid of the dark. God is no different than Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny and the Tooth Fairy. Therefore, no religious person should ever be allowed to hold public office. Public office should be reserved for those who affirm they are Atheists, or at the very least Agnostic.

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bazwest said on June 7, 2011 at 1:50 PM

Yes, we ARE big enough in this country to even have a mormon president. That is what makes our nation great. It is the diversity of ideas, diversity of religious viewpoints, diversity of race and etc., that adds to the greatness of this nation. I am not sure what the big deal is to the minority of naysayers here. A mormon president would have the same checks and balances as does every other president. He couldn't compel people to change their religious viewpoints. He couldn't make laws favorable to mormons and a catholic couldn't do it for catholics either. I haven't seen a president yet that had the perfect faith, the perfect integrity, nor the perfect political philosophy. Furthermore mormon's aren't controlled by their faith they are merely informed by it, just as each of us are by our respective religions (or lack thereof). In fact mormons themselves often differ in political philosophy, just compare Senator Harry Reid with Mitt Romney if you are in doubt about that.

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treeclimber said on June 3, 2011 at 6:40 PM

Republicans have gone to he--, they, are very despert, they are bringing in a lot of riff raff .K.K.K.,MORMONS, TEA PARTY ,PROPAGANDA PARTY,ect ect

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rnl52 said on June 3, 2011 at 6:15 PM

Everybody has a right to believe what they want to believe, or to not believe at all. Without exception, all of the Mormons that have found their way to my porch have been friendly, considerate and even helpful. Leave them be.

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mr_conservative said on June 3, 2011 at 2:49 PM

Does musicfreak wear the secret Mormon undershirt? Where in the Bible does it say to pray for the salvation of dead people...or the inhabiting of other planets in the afterlife? The Mormons have made a lot of changes and additions to the Bible. And the Book of Revelation says that's a big no-no!

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matthias said on June 3, 2011 at 2:38 PM

I was neutral on this Mormon issue until musicfreak started bragging about how the Mormons know the bible better than most. Thank you for completely turning me against this religion simply by posting on this news site.

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Kattiemcf said on June 3, 2011 at 2:01 PM

I am aware now, Gritz, thanks for the heads up! Musicfreak, I've done my research...but I guess my question is for YOU! Who do YOU believe Jesus is? Is He 1/3 of the Trinity, along with the Father and Holy Spirit? Or is He one of 3 separate gods? Does He have a beginning...or has He always existed, no beginning or end? Did He die for ALL sin? Or just...well, some sin? How do Mormon's gain salvation? By confessing with their mouths and believing in their heart that Jesus is Lord...or is there more to it than that? Are we saved by grace ALONE thru Christ? Or by OUR good deeds, baptism, and following His word? I'm not fighting to prove I am right, I am fighting for the truth of who my Lord Jesus Christ is. Who He is in the Bible and the Bible alone.

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freemonttroll said on June 3, 2011 at 10:25 AM

I've never met a Mormon I didn't like, in fact, the Mormons I do know are the nicest, kindest people I know. Fortunately, I am one of those rare people that doesn't judge or think less of anyone just because of what religion they follow. From the people I've talked to, they seem not to agree with LDS because of the story of it's origin, and since I am not religious myself, I kinda think that about all religious origins. IMO, it's just too much of a fantasy, but believing in any religion doesn't make anyone less of a person, or less capable of doing their job.

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gritz said on June 3, 2011 at 10:03 AM

Kattiemcf - Are you aware of Romney's position on Abortion while Governor of Massachusetts?

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gritz said on June 3, 2011 at 9:23 AM

One of the major reasons Mormons changed your race stance was directly in line with the hypercritical stance that your Church was practicing. How could you justify recruiting and doing missions in parts of the world where the people could not be welcomed into the inner circle of your Church? You wanted their 10% of total income; yet they could only go to the first four floors, not all the way to the penthouse. The other reasons being your petitioning the IOC for the Winter Olympics in Salt Lake and BYU into the NCAA WAC. Lets not fool ourselves here.

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ekuhnau said on June 3, 2011 at 9:22 AM

For an enlightening view to any who dare please watch the documentary "Lord, save us from your followers." I've been raised in the Catholic church, been to LDS church, Lutheran...God's word and Jesus's teachings are to love and help one another, not to judge those that don't share the same beliefs as us. As for me, if there is a God, I think that He/She would be very ashamed of many of us.

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musicfreak said on June 3, 2011 at 9:13 AM

And what is your definition of what Joseph Smith believes Christ is? I'm honestly just trying to understand what people have against this religion. We study the *entire* scriptures, are urged to read the Scriptures in their entirety from a very young age (right now, I teach 8 year olds the New Testament, last year, when they were 7, they learned the Old Testament, the two years before were LDS Scriptures). I've been to a lot of churches, in a lot of different denominations, in my time, and my experience with LDS is that we know *more* about the scriptures on the whole than most followers of other religions.

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Kattiemcf said on June 3, 2011 at 9:05 AM

Though as an actual Christian who believes in the one, true Jesus Christ (not Joseph Smith's idea of who He is...), I would rather have a Mormon as president than Obama or any other human running who supports any form of abortion or gay marriage. However, how naive is a person who believes in lies covered up by so many since Joseph Smith "discovered" the golden tablets written in "reformed Egyptian", a fake language? Who ignores certain parts of the Bible and considers it secondary to the BOM and the other books they live by...Just read Galatians 1:6-9, that's all i need to believe that religion is full of lies, cover ups, and slavery. I find freedom in the ONE TRUE Christ. I sin and am forgiven because I have accepted Him in my life. I am going to Heaven to be with my Jesus, whose blood covers ALL my sin. There is NOTHING I CAN DO to earn a better reward. It's all about what Jesus has done for me and you...and everyone who was and is and is to come :)

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musicfreak said on June 3, 2011 at 9:04 AM

By the way, Gritz, I am sorry that you had a bad experience -- but that can happen anywhere. I've had bad experiences in a Baptist church, in a non-denominational church, and my father had bad experiences in the Church of the Nazarene (which is what we were raised as). My mother and her brothers and sisters had problems with the LDS church back in the 40s and 50s. Nothing is perfect, but this Church, this Mormon religion, has accepted *this* sinner, *this* single mother of a biracial child, with open arms and showed me the love of my Heavenly Father when I was in a very dark, very bad place in my life.

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musicfreak said on June 3, 2011 at 8:58 AM

Gritz, we have people of all colors as members of the Church, members of all colors who go to the Temple and are Endowed and Sealed for Eternity with their loved ones. My son is not white, and he's welcome there. We have a Black family in our Ward, and we have a Philipino family in our Ward. We have Asians in the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, we have Hispanics in the hierarchy of the Church -- in Salt Lake City. We have Temples all over the world, and most of the people going to those Temples aren't White.

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gritz said on June 3, 2011 at 8:47 AM

Musicfreak, as a child I was informed by a friend that I would not be welcomed in his Church. I wanted to go to a temple, sounded like a fun place to go.I had never heard of LDS or knew about its bylaws and faith. I was in the seventh or eighth grade 1972 / 73. Your Article 11 is non inclusive, people who have dark skin, have been marked by the devil and are scorned with the mark of Kane. Therefore were not welcomed into your temple. What part is not true? So while you have cleaned up your act a bit, I am still reserving the right to think those old people in SLC continue to retain the beliefs they grew up with, now they just wink, wink, nudge, nudge.

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firesoul said on June 3, 2011 at 8:38 AM

@hippiescum: Without Christians, this country wouldn't have ever existed. @newlogin86: You, like 95% of all other Americans, mistakenly believe that separation of church and state is meant to protect the state. It was actually implemented to protect the church. Do a little research and you'll grasp what I mean. Religion (or lack thereof) influences people's viewpoints, thoughts, and actions. Thus, I think the religion of a president SHOULD be cared about since it can indicate what's important to them and what kind of leader they'll be.

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musicfreak said on June 3, 2011 at 8:33 AM

Mormons, unlike some I can see here, according to our 11th Article of Faith, "We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may." Wouldn't it be nice if everyone felt that way?

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musicfreak said on June 3, 2011 at 8:05 AM

mr_conservative, and what lies are you calling out? Please enlighten me?

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mr_conservative said on June 3, 2011 at 8:04 AM

If I'm a bigot for calling out the lies of Mormonism, so be it. They have twisted Christianity in so many ways...along with the Jehovah Witnesses, there's probably a special place in Hell reserved for them.

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musicfreak said on June 3, 2011 at 8:01 AM

People are so ignorant of the LDS religion, it's really quite sad. If you don't know what you're talking about, don't bother posting your ignorance.

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scott_bellevue said on June 3, 2011 at 7:55 AM

The only reason for an article like this is so the bigots come out on the discussion boards so we can see who they are. Mr_conservative is in the lead with some close followers on his tail....and the mouths are off and running.

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flwright64 said on June 3, 2011 at 7:47 AM

Relax. This is the start of a very long slog all candidates have to endure. His track record in the state of Massachusetts will continue to be discussed, including "RomneyCare" (google it and the BostonHerald newspaper) and his track record as a businessman. In the end, I guess it was a really stupid and callous idea for that group of people to influence California's Prop 8 vote. Waiting to put my hands on an "anyone but Mitt" bumper sticker.

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gritz said on June 3, 2011 at 7:37 AM

I just think its funny that the Republicans call President Obama a Socialist, yet are voting for a Person that belongs to a religion that practices Socialism as a fundamental aspect of their religion. Its so crazy, its funny.

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newlogin86 said on June 3, 2011 at 7:25 AM

UH, Who TF cares??? Why is RELIGION even an issue? Separation of church and state remember? But for some reason, everyone focuses on their religion! I wish they had NO religion!

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gritz said on June 3, 2011 at 7:20 AM

The Republicans have drifted to the right so far that Mormonism seem normal.

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aziza said on June 3, 2011 at 6:41 AM

hippiescum? I couldn't have said it better!

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mr_conservative said on June 3, 2011 at 5:59 AM

There's no way I could vote for someone who believes the lies of Mormonism just as I couldn't vote for a follower of Islam. Well, I didn't vote for him either.

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hippiescum said on June 3, 2011 at 4:57 AM

Just great, Mormons.... As if the christians didn't already run the country into the ground.

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matthias said on June 3, 2011 at 4:05 AM

The same idiots also attack other peoples comments right mcseman? Oh wait a minute, that's what I am doing too. DOH! Anyways, good job King5 for remembering to put the second M in the middle of Mormon. It could have been ugly otherwise.

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mcseman said on June 3, 2011 at 1:15 AM

clear2copy's comment is the perfect example of the ignorance out there. Are you talking about mormons swearing to overthrow the US government? Or Hindus? Either way it's a bigoted, false statement. Neither of those religions are preaching to overthrow the US but some idiots will continue to believe whatever they want without even bothering to educate themselves. The unfortunate thing is that these same idiots sometimes vote.

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clear2copy said on June 2, 2011 at 11:12 PM

heh.. a president that belongs to a cult that swears to overthrow the government of the US.. ya.. that'll go over pretty good..

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