Vancouver, Wash. police shoot, kill armed man

cowgirl2121 said on September 9, 2010 at 5:07 PM

Proposed new law- If a cop shoots an individual without justifiable cause, he must be himself shot with the same weapon in the and is not eligible for union, unemployment, or pension. No benefits will be given at all. If the individual dies and the cop is in the wrong then they should be executed with the same weapon in the same manner. It is only fair since they are so trigger happy, before they are allowed to use a tazor gun they have to go through the same thing why not a handgun.

idiopathic said on September 8, 2010 at 11:31 PM

I just read that they've identified publicly the identity of this young man. Just having gotten back from a year serving our country in Iraq.....what exactly did this kid threaten? The story says he was holding a gun but does not say if it was aimed, raised, etc.? The public needs to know, his loved ones need to know, his fellow soldiers need to know. Why was it necessary to shoot him? Why was it deemed necessary to shoot to kill him? Why shoot the kid "multiple" times?? What in the HELL is wrong with this state???????????? Elsewhere it says it is highly likely the boy had PTSD due to his service in the war in Iraq..does anyone take a persons sacrifice into account anymore? This is abhorrent! I am sickened by this brute force constantly in this state! God help his poor mother and little brother...if anyone noticed, a poster below has mentioned knowing them, and their grief.

centsofreason2 said on September 8, 2010 at 9:19 PM

WISE up AMERICA..... you are so DUMB. Warrants aren't typically served during the day because they are meant to SURPRISE the suspects (i.e. hours when they may be sleeping). This is done because most people do not have time to arm themselves. Maybe you should refrain from incoherent comments unless they are FACTS. Such rumors spread like wildfire and you are helping no cause. Any one in their right mind that wanted to see their family at the end of the night woud have expressed deadly force when threatened with a firearm. If you have a family, I think you would do the same. If not..... I am sorry for your family, because you are a gutless coward...... Hence, Darwin's Theory of 'Survival of the Fittest'....... and you obviously didn't make the cut.

wise_up_america said on September 8, 2010 at 5:16 PM

The story I read from another site was the man was in his home, police serving a search warrant in the middle of the night. Dead man drew back the blinds to look outside with a gun in his hand and the officer shot him. That is the story I read. The man has a right to have a gun in his hand in his home when he hears anything outside in the middle of the night. Any criminal could get a few of the boys to stand outside your house and yell we are the police and come in and kill your family. Who says the man made threatening moves? The cops. What threatening moves? He is back from Iraq and did not get a shot off?? I don't think so! We don't want to do away with the cops, don't be stupid. We don't want citizens getting shot for no good reason. The man shot was not who the warrant was for. This was a bad choice from the start by police. They could have waited till day time. The Seattle man did nothing wrong. He was breaking no law for the officer to enforce.

repetivity said on September 8, 2010 at 4:54 PM

Yessir-What is wrong with you that you can't argue a point anymore? Every post you place is a personal attack against someone with whom you disagree. Try addressing issues instead of mentally masturb* while feeling like you have made a point. You haven't. You've merely revealed your true desire to bully in order to stop debate. You are the problem. You have made up your (tiny little) mind and don't want to be confused by data. I'm sorry that you are so insecure that you can't tolerate people who actually are gifted with the ability to "think outside the box". Sucks to be you I know, but stop your fascist tactics. I have tolerated your personal attacks for too long without returning the favor. If you want to disagree, great, but USE EVIDENCE OR LOGIC. Otherwise, go back to your pathetic, lonely existence and respect others' freedom to have their own beliefs.

yogibear said on September 8, 2010 at 3:49 PM

melodysyota-- To bad he didn't think before he showed a gun to the police. They gave commands he refused.

cloudyday said on September 8, 2010 at 3:19 PM

What's to debate here...."the man was armed with a handgun and threatened officers", nothing. The man made a poor choice to be armed and threaten police. Law abiding citizens have every right to stay alive and safe, if you threaten others or police you need to expect to suffer consequences. Police have to make decisions in seconds or they themselves risk death or serious injury. The police are upholding the law and trying to keep citizens safe with the resources they have. People are breaking laws or acting like they might harm others, so don't do these things and we all will stay safe and alive, end of story, no debate. It's too bad some make poor choices, just look at our jails, full of people who make poor choices.

bobknows said on September 8, 2010 at 2:10 PM

telman, you are right that Washington is fast becoming a Nazi state, but we should all remember that Nazis are National Socialists, the National Socialist Labor Party. Archetypal Nazis are Socialists (liberals) who want to empower government to control all our lives, but who are just a little less totalitarian than Stalinist Russia. We should not be surprised that police state Gestapo murder on the streets has become a daily way of life under National Socialist Labor (big government power) liberals.

melodysyota said on September 8, 2010 at 12:17 PM

I have known this man since he was born, he was a good kid, very loving and kind hearted. We expected his death to be caused by serving for his country not by the law in his hometown. Was it really necessary to shoot to kill him and so many times? The cops are really gun happy anymore. I think this could of been prevented and he could of been talked down, instead of rushing in and shooting him. This is a terrible loss, and his mother is in a bad state because of this, him and his little brother is all she had. He was her everything. I think the cops that shot him should be reprimanded for what they have done. He fought for us and in thanx he gets shot???

washingtonian said on September 8, 2010 at 11:57 AM

Fruit Valley road? There's fruit in Vancouver?

tapper said on September 8, 2010 at 11:37 AM

@chinmusic, Officers are trained to shoot to stop, not kill. If the suspect appears to still pose a danger then the officer is justified in using more than a single shot or double tap.

gritz said on September 8, 2010 at 10:41 AM

Washingtonian - youre on. I will take that bet, but lets get some issues ironed out. A tasered death doesnt count. Thats just bad luck. Death in a police chase also doesnt count unless inocent bystanders are killed in the pursuit. Multiple gunshots should count double. Do park and wilddlife wardens count? I will give you wounded, winged and clipped.

kbbcoop said on September 8, 2010 at 10:37 AM

I am surprised the cops put their donut and coffee down long enough to draw their weapons.

chinmusic said on September 8, 2010 at 10:35 AM

Is it necessary to shoot a person 6-8 times?? I understand the police are trying to protect themselves but shooting 6-8 times??? It's either the cop got no aim or he really wanted to MURDER the guy..

washingtonian said on September 8, 2010 at 9:56 AM

Whew that was close, thought the pigs were gonna go a day without shooting somebody there for a second. Whose up for Wednesday?

yessir said on September 8, 2010 at 8:10 AM

Despite what nutjobs like bobknows "proclaim", society is not about to abolish, nor dramatically curtail it's police agencies. Anyone who believes they are is utterly delusional. Bobknows and his fellow wackjobs can rail all they wish.... they aren't changing anything and deep down, they know how impotent and inept they truly are.

livefreeordie said on September 8, 2010 at 7:07 AM

A completely one sided story probably taken directly from the Police Propoganda Machine which spins stories to support police violence.

salix said on September 8, 2010 at 6:57 AM

bobknows wants NO law enforcement so HE can come out of hiding and do his stuff without fear. Read all his postings and it's apparent. Without law enforcement, how many more innocent people are going to die at the hands of criminals? Without police, the streets will be crawling with people who will be out getting something for nothing (namely your hard-earned money) and shootings without any fear of being caught? How many real thugs (like the people who don't want any cops here) will there be invading your homes and society?

telman said on September 8, 2010 at 6:55 AM

After reading this over again and all the police shootings I am coming to the conclusion that Washington State with all the liberal politics is becoming exactly what they preach against. A Nazi state.I am so out of here when I can sell my house.

bobknows said on September 8, 2010 at 6:40 AM

The soldier was in less danger in the war in Iraq than on the streets of America. In Iraq they only have a few terrorists, and the government opposes them. In American we have terrorist gangs roaming our streets killing young soldiers and everyone else they can find to kill. How many dead will it take before the people begin to fight back against the terrorist gangs that roam American streets and murder soldier and civilian alike?

cheekymagee said on September 8, 2010 at 6:01 AM

This is just a complete tragedy. Maybe if the police knew he had just returned from Iraq, this could have been handled differently, but of course, we don't live in a perfect world. And to all the people who are are saying he was an idiot...he wasn't. You should be ashamed of yourself for saying that. He was a good kid and a hero, who served his time defending this country for you. Really, is that how you support our troops who come home and may be suffering from PTSD? We don't know what led up to this incident or what his state of mind was when the police surrounded him, lights blazing and guns drawn. I don't think he was out to hurt anyone though. This kid has a family who love him more than you know and my heart goes out to them.

gritz said on September 8, 2010 at 5:14 AM

King 5 -- Little over a week ago a man was shot and killed by the police in Seattle.The police report did not match the eye witnesses reports. The man is now buried and we still have not heard a peep from the coroner. PCD (Preliminary cause of death) has been established, yet your paper and news division is withholding the report. Why is that?

captjp said on September 7, 2010 at 11:19 PM

It's not the Police that are out of control it's our society. If your a law abiding person you have respect and high regard for our Police. If you not on the side of the law then you end up making comments like some of the one's like I see here. The first thing we all need to do is not jump on any band wagon till after the fact are in and not just react to a news report.

paulharvey said on September 7, 2010 at 9:59 PM

At least King 5 is accurately reporting that the account of what happened in this story is what the police "say" happened. As opposed to Seattle newspapers who have taken the police version of the story and posted it as though these were all verified facts.

treeclimber said on September 7, 2010 at 9:56 PM

most cops are over weight and out of shape,and they couldn't hit the broad side of a barn thats why carry autos.tthats why we need to bring in better gun slingers.that can hit what they aim at with the first shot and not make a big miss for the corner to clean up.

cathyinwa1 said on September 7, 2010 at 7:45 PM

amandaholder, the reason why I was driving in the dark: 1) I was in a very well lit parking lot, leaving the grocery store, 2) the freeway exit was just a few blocks and the streets were very well lit up in Parkland, 3) by the time I made my turn to the freeway, it was dark and I had realized I had to turn on my lights! Obviously I still have cat eyes! The cop happened to be around the corner and was very mean for no reason at all! So learn to know what the situation is before babbling out of ignorance. FYI, the cops are getting just plain meaner. I am almost 60 and I can remember the days when cops were more friendly and talked to you civilly for traffic violations. Now even a child would be afraid of cops!!! Of course there are a lot more crime, but the cops are abusing their power! And getting CAUGHT!!!!!!!!!! Nothing was mentioned that kid fired shots! What a waste of a soldier's life!

repetivity said on September 7, 2010 at 7:28 PM

Sorry that question was too complex for you to answer doug34098167450194857. Please watch idiocracy. I'll explain it to you afterwards.

doug276614834154 said on September 7, 2010 at 7:21 PM

repetivity the only drone is you. If you have a gun and you point it at an office, they tell you to drop it, you better believe it. Get real.

repetivity said on September 7, 2010 at 7:09 PM

To all the mindless drones who will believe anything someone in blue tells them: Have the police EVER, in your opinion, done ANYTHING wrong? If you answer yes, what makes this different? If you answer no, you must now realize your naivete (look it up).

taxed said on September 7, 2010 at 7:09 PM

Glad they got him befor he killed an inicent by stander. Thats why we have the police to protect us. Older men? in other wars? What history are you reading Cathyinwa1?

yogibear said on September 7, 2010 at 6:06 PM

telman-- It is not the police out of control. It is stupid people that refuse to obey orders

yogibear said on September 7, 2010 at 6:04 PM

Where are all these "demonstrators" when the bad guys are shooting innocent people and cops. If they care so much why aren't they doing things to get these guys off the streets and keep them from commiting crimes. Where are they then???

seamikey said on September 7, 2010 at 5:22 PM

"Couldn't they have just shot the knife out of their hand?"....Umm...this is REAL LIFE - not Hollywood. I don't believe that is is the "police in this state" who are "out of control". It comes down to society in general. Police are there to maintain order in society, and it is their sworn duty to protect and serve the public. This may be as simple as recovering a stolen bicycle to a crying child, or as complicated and controversial as taking a human life. I make the conscious decision to try to live as normal a life as possible, and I don't choose to roam city streets in the early morning hours armed with a potentially deadly weapon. If you make the decision to ignore the commands of an officer, then you run the risk of paying the consequences. How about a new saying to keep in mind...."Listen And Live".

bluedamzel406743 said on September 7, 2010 at 4:59 PM

I may be naive but police are trained to hit what they aim at aren't they? Then, at least in the incident where the guys with the knives were shot couldn't they just have shot the knife out of their hand? Better a messed up hand than be dead. right? It's kinda scary this business of so many killings in rapid succession.

telman said on September 7, 2010 at 4:55 PM

The police in this State are out of control. I think It is time to get the Justice Department to start to investagate this problem. It is obvious the cops have a policy to shoot first and ask questions later.

mfbanky said on September 7, 2010 at 3:57 PM

A knife is a deadly weapon. If confronted with a deadly weapon, Law Enforcement Officers are authorized to use deadly force. Plain & Simple (grizzlyironbear). If a stranger broke into your house at 2am with a knife, are you going to take your chances by throwing shoes at him? or will you shoot him?

bigred82961 said on September 7, 2010 at 3:32 PM

Fire away!!!!!!!!!!! One bullet at a time. If you dont want to get shot by a police officer than dont put yourself in a situation for them to shoot you!!! Plain and simple!!!!

grizzlyironbear said on September 7, 2010 at 3:10 PM

What im curious about is the fact that as of recent times..there has been.....what 4 fatal shootings with the police? and ALL of them within the state of Washington? What happened to the rubber bullets, mace, stun guns, and other non lethal techniques? I understand this latest one is against another firearm..but the others were over a KNIFE....I mean REALLY....shoot to kill over a KNIFE? how about a shoulder, or a leg shot instead of four to the chest?

amandaholder said on September 7, 2010 at 3:09 PM

Cathyinwa1, I am not related to nor do I know members of law enforcement, but I do have a son who is in the Army and has served two tours in Iraq and he agrees that the Vancouver police did what they had to do. Would you have been more pleased if this young man had not been stopped and went on to injure/kill others? If things had ended that way, would you be critical that law enforcement didn't do more to stop this young man? P.S.~Not wise to drive in the dark without lights on. You should be glad that someone had to remind you to do the obvious before you injured or killed another.

pixelater said on September 7, 2010 at 3:00 PM

Sorry to hear about this young man, but as a trained warrior he knows that if you face some one with a weapon, they may respond with a weapon. *** bobknows, might have a point. *** If we do away with all law enforcement we will be responsible for our own protection of private properties, our selves and families. At that point no one can scream to loud when someone attacking you or stealing your property gets sent away with all the copper jacketed lead they can carry. Kind of like the old west, an armed society is a polite society. *** Is that what you had in mind bob?

fjdesign69494578 said on September 7, 2010 at 2:55 PM

Very sad that he had to die. Very sad indeed...

whatsyurbeef said on September 7, 2010 at 2:08 PM

Vancouver police did what they had to do. Unfortunate but necessary. Cathyinwa1 young soldiers have been fighting and dying since the first roman centurion, and in the U.S. during the civil war, and WW1 some soldiers were as young as 12, that does'nt make it right but thats the way it is. In this guys case there may have been many other factors involved, we don't know.

cathyinwa1 said on September 7, 2010 at 1:14 PM

Those of you bashing the young soldier must not have a son or nephew or grandson. Young adults from ages 18-25 should not be fighting in wars. That's when they are the most impressionable. In the old days, they had mature men fighting the wars because they knew that it can mess up young soldier's minds. That police should've gotten back-up and they should've used chemical bombs. If it was necessary, he could've shot him in the leg. Too many "HUMAN BEINGS" are killed by the police, even with a taser. Those of you who congradulate the police are probably the police or relatives of one..I say end this blood shed. So what if it costs taxpayers' money to help these people who sacrificed their lives to protect USA's people. After all, that is the small price we can pay to show our appreciation for our soldiers. And no, I am not a criminal but was treated like one when I forget to put my headlights on. And guess what? I found out later that cop got shot. Gee, I wonder why?

bobknows said on September 7, 2010 at 12:47 PM

The guy was in less danger in the war in Iraq than on the streets of Washington. In Iraq all he had to worry about were the Taliban, Al Queda, roadside bombs, and feuding religious factions. Here at home the government gun thugs kill men in the street without reason or remorse. If he wanted to survive he should have stayed in the war zone.

amandaholder said on September 7, 2010 at 12:38 PM

Well done, VPD.

franky said on September 7, 2010 at 12:25 PM

For the trolls trying to tie this to Seattle - Vancouver is a very long way away from the city. Good try though.

perspective said on September 7, 2010 at 12:24 PM

bobknows.. its called lithium,, see the doc. it will help.

bobknows said on September 7, 2010 at 12:24 PM

Another day, another man dead. Day after day the killing goes on and on. We The People need that kind of "protection" like we need a hole in our head. (Which is probably what we'll get if we meet a blue shirt gun thug)

silverton said on September 7, 2010 at 12:21 PM

You know society is in trouble when the police start killing solders. After all, why should we help out stressed out soldiers returning from war? I don't want my tax dollars going to help soldiers. Just have the police shoot them. Don't try to talk them down and get them the help they need. That is too expensive. A bullet only cost a dollar or less. Lets support our police and encourage them to shoot more people and more soldiers. If you are an American you should agree. (This is a parody)

horicesheets said on September 7, 2010 at 12:08 PM

WOW! Must have been jaywalking. Typically in Seattle the Street Gang (Cops) beat with their clubs or kill them with a stun gun attack if they jaywalk. They recently used a gun on a jaywalker who was carving a totem pole. Now apparently the Thugs have resorted to real violence.

netty said on September 7, 2010 at 11:57 AM

I'm so proud of the police. I think people will start reconsidering their actions knowing that they will be held accountable and possibly lose their life for making stupid decisions. WAY TO GO COPS, I am feeling safer and safer by the day :)

rastaj said on September 7, 2010 at 11:47 AM

Blaming an increase in shootings on Obama??? Holy sh**.....I think i have truly heard it all now

zaxxon7469 said on September 7, 2010 at 11:18 AM

Lets get all the facts before bashing the cops. We are not talking about a 4 on 1 tussle with a suspect that stinks of brutality, or a 1 on 1 where a seperate person steps in and deserved to be punched, or stomping while they are down, or Even a BART cop pulling his service weapon over the taser. Lest not forget, there has been over a half dozen police officers murdered in cold blood over the last 5 years in the PNW. Lets see if the news can report this first, let all the facts come out.

kbbcoop said on September 7, 2010 at 11:17 AM

Sure has been an uptick in Police shootings since Obama has been elected. Could be due to the 10% unemployment rate, much higher in other areas. People are desperate, losing homes, cars and families, while the first family enjoys another sun drenched vacation, blaming Bush.

siusir said on September 7, 2010 at 11:08 AM

With so many violence targeting police around here during the last year, one can't blame them for being overly cautious (i.e. more protective of themselves a.k.a. shoot first). That said, it's no excuse for them to just shoot any and everyone, which they are NOT doing. So, just to be safe, if you have any issues with them just take it up with the judge. Don't give them any excuse to pump you full of lead.

newsmanr6 said on September 7, 2010 at 11:06 AM

Yet another example of a trained law enforcement professional protecting us. Thank you Vancouver PD for keeping idiots like this off our streets. We reasonable citizens applaud your efforts.

danironman said on September 7, 2010 at 10:47 AM

Good job to the law enforcement. Maybe the next time a no good criminal will think twice about trying to murder an officer, me, you, or our families.

jakedog said on September 7, 2010 at 10:14 AM

Waving a gun at police and not obeying commands, seems to be a common error on the parts of these "helpless victims." I'm glad they got shot, I feel safer as a law abiding citizen. I'm 46 years old and have NEVER had a police officer draw a weapon on me. Lucky? No, I obey the law!

franky said on September 7, 2010 at 10:07 AM

Thank you Officer.

kameha said on September 7, 2010 at 10:06 AM

Well done to the police officer, thanks again for doing your job and protecting good law abiding citezens by removing the vermin from our streets.

bobknows said on September 7, 2010 at 10:05 AM

If the Vancouver citizens had fired all their hired gun thugs last week, another Vancouver man would be alive today. We the People have no need for hired gun thugs roaming our streets murdering people. Day after day. Killing after killing. The death, blood, and carnage caused by the blue shirt gang goes on and on. How many deaths will it take to wake up?

mvillechick said on September 7, 2010 at 10:04 AM

I, too, will never get shot by a cop, because guess what? I don't break any laws to BE confrontational! The police need to shoot so they, in turn, do not get shot themselves. Don't break the law and you will not have to be confronted. Losers!

cyrixlord said on September 7, 2010 at 10:04 AM

Sadly, the only remedy for the lack of State funded Mental health and drug rehabilitation centers seems to be 2 ounces of lead which are administered by non-medical care professionals. I salute law enforcement officers everywhere for doing their part in keeping me out of the reach of unlawful gunpoint.

drcyclops said on September 7, 2010 at 9:59 AM

Ok, I guess all police, no longer consider the "Suicide by Cop" scenario, so all anyone with suicidal thoughts, have to do now, is act all threatening to the gestapo cops, to have them kill you dead, yep... I can see ALL the crazies out there, using this as a solution. As for tacwilster's comment, all a family of the decedent, has to do now, is file a lawsuit against the city and/or state, costing a lot more to pay out period, not to mention, all the bad press that it will entail.

chuckstr76 said on September 7, 2010 at 9:58 AM

IF YOUR GONNA BE STUPID, YOU BETTER WEAR BODY ARMOR....I thank the Police their efforts, keep up the good work,

salix said on September 7, 2010 at 9:52 AM

People sticking up for thugs and criminals are thugs and criminal themselves. They benefit from no cops and no law enforcement so they can do what they want. Thank you for removing the scum from the rest of us wanting to live peaceful lives.

bobknows said on September 7, 2010 at 9:51 AM

Killing the people is NOT the same as "protecting" the people. We the people do not want pigs who murder another man every day. Murder for hire is NOT supposed to be the reason that blue shirt gangs exist.

bobknows said on September 7, 2010 at 9:47 AM

Day after day. Murder after murder. How many dead men will it take before the people wake up and demand that the blue gun thugs stop the killings?

seamikey said on September 7, 2010 at 9:46 AM

How "Not" To Get Shot By Police: DON'T COMMIT VIOLENT CRIMES.I know this seems elementary, but this rule is lost on many.They do the crime, get shot, and then wonder how it could possibly happen. They whine that it is so unfair.Well, violent crime, like jumping in front of moving cars, is just a high risk occupation. DON'T RUN AWAY FROM THEM.I know it's hard to believe, but that may make them think you're guilty of something. Hiding in bushes or closets makes some cops very nervous. They might even foolishly conclude that you're up to no good! DON'T MAKE FAST MOVEMENTS WITH YOUR HANDS.I know it sounds silly, but grabbing a shiny beer can or a dark colored wallet may make police officers mistakenly believe that you are about to hurt them. DON'T POINT IT AT THE COPS. We all know that you're basically a nice person, but that may be lost on the police officers confronting you. They may even believe they need to protect themselves.

tacwilster said on September 7, 2010 at 9:42 AM

This is the best thing ever happened to this state, it will reduce the cost of trials, jail, medical, education expense all of us tax paying, law abiding citizens have to pay. Keep up the good work and take more of these criminals off the streets. Thank you for a job well done.

1beachperson said on September 7, 2010 at 9:22 AM

I agree with quackula - do what you're supposed to do when ordered by LE, and you won't have a problem! Otherwise, you're taking your chances, and usually you'll lose.

wmdkitty said on September 7, 2010 at 9:12 AM

Something isn't right about this... I suspect the cop fired first, and planted the gun later.

brentallica said on September 7, 2010 at 9:07 AM

Love you cops! Thank you for doing the hard job most people don't want to! Appreciate you and the job you are doing so much!

chachabax said on September 7, 2010 at 9:01 AM

Another one bites the dust (LOOSER) thank you officers for taking the loosers off the streets one at a time, its a safer place now, keep up the GOOD work.......

treeclimber said on September 7, 2010 at 8:59 AM

the wild west is still alive were still bringing in hired gun's to tame the west.all you east coast people coming west to make a fast buck take notice leave your guns at home.

quackula said on September 7, 2010 at 8:56 AM

I have no fear of the police of killing me. Why? 1. I pull over when they flash their lights at me. 2. I obey their orders. 3. I don't act confrontational such as a physical or verbal abuse. 4. I don't pull my gun on them or any other weapon. If you disagree with what they are doing you can take their badge number down and file a complaint. These are not hard to follow people.

clear2copy said on September 7, 2010 at 7:49 AM

The public protected again. Well done and thank you.

billiameveryman said on September 7, 2010 at 7:33 AM

This sounds like suicide by cop to me...

scott_bellevue said on September 7, 2010 at 7:30 AM

I don't know what happened, but in general pulling a gun on a cop in the middle of the night is a bad idea and can be dangerous to your health.

dkjamerican said on September 7, 2010 at 7:11 AM

Armed with what? What type of threat? Was killing him the only answer? And people wonder why I am so anti-social, People, it is becoming more & more like a war zone out there or Steven King novel which ever you perfer. Cop killing citizen, citzens killing cops, parents killing their own babies, and the Federal Government trying to convince us everything is fine while they continue to try to take our freedoms away.. Who do we trust? Who do we fear?

mikee1899 said on September 7, 2010 at 7:07 AM

Why don't people learn? If you make a police officer fear for his life he's going to defend him/her self, just like you and I would. We don't pay our law enforcement officers to be targets, or punching bags. We pay them to enforce our laws, we hold them accountable if they fail to do so. My heart goes out to the people that lost a friend or relative in this terrible situation. But my heart goes out to the officers involved, thy will be put through hell over this and have to live with it for the rest of their lives. Most of the people that die at the hands of law enforcement are either high or drunk, both by their choice. It's a matter of personal responsibility to not put yourself in this position. "Gee I was drunk/high" isn't an excuse to get stupid.

stryker said on September 7, 2010 at 6:55 AM

wise_up_america: first you knock the victim then you knock the cops... WTF are you trying to say? ** chevelle70ss: some of the people the cops have been killing DIDNT do ANYTHING wrong. Wait untill it happens to someone you care about then make your comment... if you can.

yakimaman said on September 7, 2010 at 6:51 AM

Making our streets safe again......Goooooo Blue!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

wise_up_america said on September 7, 2010 at 6:46 AM

Yea one less idiot in the pool. You don't even know what happend yet. Yes the man was aremed with his left arm and his right. The police will release more info after they all get thier story straight. If the man had a gun they would have said so. If the man had a knife they may hold off on saying that. I listenend to the news over the week end and the state police officer said one thing that was true. " We are law enforcement officers." The man whittling had broken no law he was minding his own. What law was SPD officer enforcing? Again they are to enforce the law not harass citizens. Unless you break the law they have no authority to ask what you are doing. Hitler and the KGB would be proud.

chevelle70ss said on September 7, 2010 at 6:45 AM

Okay come on out cop bashers. Here is a novel idea if you dont want to get shot or tased or whatever do what the cop says and there wont be a problem. If your dumb enough to no listen then you get whats coming to you. Thank you police for keeping up the population control and saving my tax dollars for something better.

kbbcoop said on September 7, 2010 at 6:43 AM

I think its time to take the guns away from the cops.

dakotanative said on September 7, 2010 at 6:28 AM

One less idiot in the pool.

boobiewah said on September 7, 2010 at 6:21 AM

We need a police force to police the police. Good luck with this, Washingtonians.