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Seattle Federal Building poses possible roadblock to tunnel

by LINDA BRILL / KING 5 News

KING5.com

Posted on January 18, 2011 at 7:08 PM

Updated Tuesday, Jan 18 at 8:12 PM

SEATTLE -- Plans to build a deep bore tunnel under downtown Seattle may have hit a roadblock from the federal government.

The tunnel that will replace the Alaska Way Viaduct is planned to go under the historic Old Federal Office Building, but the feds may not allow it. 

Built in the early 1900's, the Old Federal Office Building, between Western Avenue and First, and Madison and Marion, is a landmark. It is the original site of the Great Seattle Fire in 1889.

"Any slight changes in ground movement, especially from a 58-foot boring machine, could cause significant problems," says Seattle City Council Member Mike O'Brien.

The Washington State Department of Transportation can't bore under the Federal Building without permission from the federal government. The tunnel would run directly beneath or through the foundation piers that support the building.

In letters to the state from the General Services Administration, the feds are concerned about the support piers. GSA writes, they "would place this historic building and its occupants in permanent jeopardy."

In an April letter, GSA went so far as to prohibit WSDOT from entering the property. "We will not be granting any further access to the federal property to the project team, their contractors, or possible bidders," they wrote.

WSDOT'S tunnel manager, Ron Paananen, says the problems can be mitigated. 

"There are ways to do things to the soil in advance so the tunneling won't effect it at all," he says.

The state says boring under the Federal Building is the safest route for the tunnel. Negotiations with the feds are continuing. 

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tomma206 said on January 20, 2011 at 12:02 AM

Please feds strike it down.Your our last hope to stop the madness.

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kingcountryvoter said on January 19, 2011 at 11:31 PM

my comment was deleted?? Whats up with that.

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intrestgal said on January 19, 2011 at 1:55 PM

I have my fingers crossed that this puts an end to tis insane tunnel - we voted it down. I understand the real rich folks who own veiws of the water don't want a viaduct interupting their precious veiw - poor little rich kids, run home to Daddy. The whole thing is rediculous, the people don't want it - we have no $$$ to support it AND it will destroy so many beautiful and historic buildings in it's ugly path. NO TUNNEL - NO TUNNEL - NO TUNNEL - NO TUNNEL - NO TUNNEL . Enough said.

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kbbcoop said on January 19, 2011 at 1:46 PM

Wait until the government takes over healthcare! They have done a bang up job so far with this tunnel...!

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kingcountryvoter said on January 19, 2011 at 1:45 PM

hahahahahahahaahha So now you can add the first extra billion because the widest tunnel ever bored is going to have to loop around this structure. Wonder what the next "surprise" will be. What a waste of money.

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dede1978 said on January 19, 2011 at 11:57 AM

pixelater, that is Seattle's "old federal building" meaning it is no longer THE FEDERAL BUILDING, which is on 2nd Avenue. But it is a historic building and should not be tunneled under. I'm against the tunnel idea myself, I don't think it is the right fix for the viaduct. Really sad the funds that have been soaked into this already... I agree with chevelle, maybe the feds can stop it.

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pixelater said on January 19, 2011 at 9:49 AM

The tunnel was voted down by the people, but the state govt. wants to shove it down our throats. *** The whole thing was a bad idea to start with, but to route it underneath a federal building, are you kidding me? Not just any Joe, Harry or Sally can walk into these buildings with out proper access, or credentials. *** Now they want just any old Timothy McVeigh to be able to drive underneath it.

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chevelle70ss said on January 19, 2011 at 9:11 AM

Well at least if the voters cant stop this tunnel from happening maybe the feds can.

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freedomfrank said on January 19, 2011 at 8:21 AM

Your government hard at work folks,,, if they can't work out the easy issues like this one how will they handle the complex ones that will cost tax payers billions of dollars? Please, contact someone in your district and lets fight this now before more of OUR money is wasted.

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maynerdgkrebbs said on January 19, 2011 at 7:45 AM

let's hope this puts a stop to this fiscal irresponsible project.

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shtoop said on January 19, 2011 at 7:16 AM

"Possible Roadblock" ????? Let me know when you're definite. That's when I'll get concerned.

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kingster said on January 19, 2011 at 7:00 AM

Tim Eyman needs to run for office and put his money where his mouth is. To suggest that he or any legislator can help when they have no income at stake is ludicrous. Legislators need to feel the bite in their pocketbook like the rest of us. As for the tunnel, I repeat what I said before, that it is a dangerous foolhardy thing to drive a tunnel through an earthquake fault zone that is active and capable of inflicting catastrophic damage on downtown. Any construction in the area is GOING to disrupt traffic and business, but it needs to be done. We simply don't need a tunnel.

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psyoung377 said on January 19, 2011 at 1:26 AM

Nice!!!! Ticks me off I couldnt stop the boring for the link when they went under my property. Lots of misc. damage adding up to lotsa dough in the long run. total denial about it causing any problems. The way they mitigated us on Beacon was " we have experienced no problems as far as we can find" What kind of crazy answer is that? Although it is awesome to observe the foreign tourists unload on top of Beacon by accident. Usually not to hard to get by the 8 cops that are needed at that stop. And good goly miss moly , gazamillions spent on that heavy commute route? Oh yeah Govt. employee freeze,lower wages,program cuts , I wonder if politicians cut their pay. How come legislators get paid for life? Please , cant Eyeman help us with these issues? How about a very serious get together protest from the 98% of us who live paycheck to paychk or less?We all know its just getting stupider , please lets stop the maddness.

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pamby said on January 18, 2011 at 10:36 PM

See? They are just trying to push this tunnel through no matter what. They knew about the Old Federal Building from the beginning. How could they not? They knew about the other old buildings they are forcing a take down on. They were being covert. I hope to heII that the Feds tell them to shove it.

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gmlewis409700354 said on January 18, 2011 at 9:04 PM

No kidding. Why doesn't this surprise me. Cost over run number one.

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sunlover said on January 18, 2011 at 8:14 PM

Right on. I hope this shuts down this project that this state can not afford. Mitigation. We have never tunneled like this in this state so how the heck does the project engineer know how soils under Seattle can be mitigated. We have forked out hundreds of millions of dollars to "have" companies bid this project. We have given them up front money. Hwy 18 was double the cost due to environmental impacts said the state on TV tonight. Hmmmm-wonder what can of environmental impacts are under Seattle? No tunnel.

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biggergovnow said on January 18, 2011 at 7:43 PM

Why not just take it in the same manner that you take our private property when you need it. Or you could just raise their property taxes...

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kbbcoop said on January 18, 2011 at 7:26 PM

They just NOW realized this??? How much $$ has been spent on consultants for this project, and this now comes up? How many millions?? This is what happens when government takes on a project of this magnitude.

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