Sultan man dies after being tased by Snohomish Co. deputies

mi584 said on September 7, 2010 at 10:54 AM

Excited Delirium again. Don't do drugs.

mrmnikon said on September 6, 2010 at 9:11 PM

@rodblackey... Sorry for your loss, but, I know someone who lives on the street where this happened. They said they were woken up at about 1:30 in the morning to the sounds of screaming (almost unhuman). They said it sounded like someone was getting beaten mercilessly. They also said that when Sharon was told what was going on, her quote was "Oh, he's (Adam) probably on LSD again. So...he was not walking up and down the street. It only got quiet after the cops showed up. If he was on drugs - he most certainly would have charged the police... The police need to look at what's been going on in that house. Other people on the street are afraid to confront it, but the authorities need to look deeper...

nostalgic said on September 6, 2010 at 9:08 PM

My prayers go out to his family and anyone who knew Adam. I knew Adam, but I did not know him well..I wish I did. And as I read through these comments...it breaks my heart to see so much hatred towards him or the officers involved. People loved and cared for this young man and even if he didnt make the best choices in life, there is no room for anyone to judge him, nor do i blame the officers involved for his death. There is no reason for hatred or blame in this tragic accident.

dasindog said on September 5, 2010 at 9:08 PM

@bobknows - i read what you're writing and I understand what you're saying. But, what i see is a lack of solution, a lack of resolve. In your opinion, what is your solution, what is your resolve?

duckling said on September 5, 2010 at 5:21 PM

Based on those who knew him, it sounds like either something very unusual happened to him or something went horribly wrong when they subdued him. We do not know if anyone is at fault. I'm talking to those here who are spewing hatred of a young man they have never met. Hopefully you don't refer to yourselves as "Christians." What if it was one of your teenage kids getting drunk at a party for the first time? Try to have some compassion. Many years ago, I was on the wrong side of an altercation with a cop who seemed completely bonkers. I was maybe 25 years old, 5'2, 100 lbs, girl. Facing five cops with their guns pointed at my chest as they asked me to get out of my vehicle and walk towards them. I had not even been speeding--the first cop had made some kind of bizarre mistake and I think he was escalating it to cover his embarrassment. Even a cop at City Hall heard my story and laughed--"Sounds like a rookie," he said. I was VERY scared of police for many years after.

dakotanative said on September 5, 2010 at 2:00 PM

His actions show what kind of guy he was. He attacked officers just like Maurice clemmons did. He could easily have gotten their gun and killed them. They used more restraint than necessary.

skeeterman35 said on September 5, 2010 at 12:50 PM

I am not taking sides here but Tasers are for compliance and thats it. It does not matter how big the police or the victim is. Police are trained to use it. How big is BJ Penn?

jenasal said on September 5, 2010 at 12:45 PM

smtown45 I am sorry that some people can be so judgemental and cruel. I wonder how they can lay their heads down at night and be able to sleep soundly.

jenasal said on September 5, 2010 at 12:38 PM

Seems like a wonderful boy, my thoughts are with his family and friends, just a trgic tragic outcome.

smithrock said on September 5, 2010 at 12:30 PM

The police cannot be held responsible if the Taser victim was under the influence of cocaine or other drugs. He started the problems that drew citizen complaints. Poor fellow should not have drew attention to himself in unruly ways if he he had heart problems.

smtown45 said on September 5, 2010 at 11:25 AM

I can't believe the ignorance that I am reading. So many people sitting in their homes on their computers reading an article about a man they know absolutely NOTHING about and passing judgement on him. “Who are you to judge the life I live? I know I'm not perfect and I don't live to be. But, before you start pointing fingers, make sure your hands are clean.” Adam was a very kind and good person, NOT the kind of person to sit and slander a complete strangers name all over the internet. All of you who have shared your negativity and hateful messages all over this article should be ashamed of your complete lack of compassion for a very sad and heartbreaking situation. Adam has a family. A mother who does not care what you think, only how she feels right now and Im appalled that you can't keep your uneducated opinions to yourself out of RESPECT for a woman who his mourning the untimely death of her baby. Adam you are missed by everyone who was LUCKY enough to have known you.

roblackey said on September 5, 2010 at 11:15 AM

I live in this town, Adam is 5'4 120lbs, do you really think that 2 6'0 200lbs trained officers had enough reason to use a stun gun? It shows the complete lack of courage, and laziness in those inexperienced DEPUTIES. They are trained officers, they should know what they are doing. Calling a stun gun the "least fatal take down method," is BS as well. The least fatal, tho your may in chance take a punch to the face, is to man up and physically subdue him. Think about it. 2 large trained officers can't handle 1 5'4 small guy. You officers took the easy way out of what ever the situation was at the time....It cost my friend his life, and this community has lost a great person because you couldn't handle the requirements of your job to put yourself at risk. As a trained officers you know the potential risks of using a stun gun. I hope you feel an immense guilt long into the night. md.roblackey@gmail.com RIP ADAM

roblackey said on September 5, 2010 at 11:03 AM

I was a close personal friend of Adam. He was not a violent guy, he wasn't into drugs and was a quite, polite, nice guy. We would frequently have a beer or two down at the local bar and play poker, he loved life. He probably was cruising on his bike up and down that road, not running...the way the media twists details is BS. We spent many night recording and making music together, chilling and just talking about music, life and crazy off the wall theories about this and that. He was an intelligent guy, an incredibly talented guitarist and songwriter, who would spent hours on end modifying and making custom guitars.... This isn't the type of person who would "charge," the police...nor would be running up and down the road yelling... Adam wasn't an "unruly," guy. He was smart and in control. I wouldn't be surprised after the toxicology report is released showing only maybe alcohol, the medical examiner finds the stun gun hit him in the back. Love and miss you adam... rip

rigidprinciples said on September 5, 2010 at 10:47 AM

@pennie -- The government simply doesn't have the privilege to legislate what you can, or can't, put in, or take out, of your OWN body if you do in fact OWN your OWN body. So it sounds like aligning our laws with the Constitution would immediately remove one of the two most dangerous situtions that LEO's face.

pennie6106762487 said on September 5, 2010 at 10:34 AM

The two most dangerous situations LEO's face are domestic violence and drug abuse. An instant assessment must favor protecting the safety of the officers and the public, officers and folks in the neighborhood have families too. There is no way to tell in that split second if there are unseen weapons involved, to decide if a stray bullet fired at officers may hit a child asleep in his bed. It's a cruel reality, and I thank God for our law enforcement officers who lay their lives on the line for all of us every day, and I ask God to protect and bless them and their families. I have been in law enforcement, have been the one to disarm a distraught U of O professor who had a gun, in his office; I have a family and so did he, so did the students who were at risk. I am truly sorry for your loss of this precious young man, it is a loss to all of us! love-- "Pastor Mom" PCP or Angel Dust, for instance, renders the substance abuser (duster) very strong and hyper.

trojan33 said on September 5, 2010 at 10:24 AM

@turk2104- The data disputes your point as does basic human anatomy and physiology variations.

auburngirl said on September 5, 2010 at 9:20 AM

gspilz, wanted to let you know I thought your comment was well thought out and i agree with you about needing" to change the culture". We all need to learn to respond more appropriately to the huge stresses we are all under in this time of our history. I guess I do not know all the answers. I think it is important for each one of us to really think about what we can do as individuals to make our own quaulity of life high. Take care of our familys, friends and neighbors with devotion. We do need question what is going on with our law enforcement. To be a part of the solution however, you cannot just sling insults and hate. That is why I liked your comment.

collegeguy said on September 5, 2010 at 9:12 AM

@bobknows, go take your conspiracty theorist, retread ideads and shove them where the sun doesn't shine. How many times do people have to tell you that your name means bobknows(jacks**t).

remainingreal said on September 5, 2010 at 8:51 AM

brentallica-tell that to the guy who was shot IN THE BACK FOUR TIMES by the cop in Seattle, just because he had a box knife-type instrument for carving wood. Seems to me that that wouldn't qualify as acting crazy or attacking an officer.

shoreline said on September 5, 2010 at 8:45 AM

Seems lke we could all use a little more "truth" before making paranoid comments here. How about we start requiring all police officers to start wearing those pocket video camera's on EVERY contact with the public. Then the truth about these circumstances will be easier to verify. Most of these incident involve multiple officers so there would be several "points of view" to review. This would protect both the people from abusive officers and officers from paranoid accusations by the public at large. Makes sense, no? We see what the officer sees... then we can "monday mrning quarterback".

mrmagoo said on September 5, 2010 at 8:33 AM

he more then likely took the wrong dope from the people he was caring for and it made him go WACKO. I have a son who is Paraplegic and for years they had him on some strong dope.

mcd1975272738114 said on September 5, 2010 at 8:28 AM

@lattelisa you're back again with your brain-less comments! You lost that CLUE I gave you a few days ago. Better go look around your house and see if if you can find it

suzyo said on September 5, 2010 at 8:24 AM

FREESPEECH: Were you there? Did you see what happened to this Man? Don't sit there and say they were justified in what they did. You Are Naive to believe that all police officers do the right thing. They are human too. Do you think that the officers who stomped on that one mans head and said racial comments were justified officers? Do you know Adam or his Family? Do you know anything about his Mental or Physical condition? NO I don't think you do. It is people like you with your false statement that start cr*p. If you believe everything you read then I believe that you probably get taken advantage of very easily. Simple Minds Have Simple Thoughts.

rigidprinciples said on September 5, 2010 at 8:15 AM

@freespeech -- Technically, as long as the theater owner allows it, you are allowed to scream fire in a theater.

bobknows said on September 5, 2010 at 8:08 AM

Killer cops killing people to protect themselves is the opposite of their excuse for existence in our communities. They promise to be protecting the people, but they are protecting themselves by killing the people. That is not what they are allowed to exist. We do not need to pay taxes to hire a gang of gun thugs to kill us for their own protection. ... There is something VERY WRONG with those who say that killing the people to protect the gun thugs is "justified." We are not so dumb that we cannot see what they are doing. If they cannot or will not protect the people instead of killing the people then we do not want them in our communities.

bobknows said on September 5, 2010 at 8:03 AM

Tasers are torture devices. They have no place in a decent society..... The blue gun thugs are supposed to be PROTECTING the people, not killing the people. Killing the people is NOT the same as protecting the people. If they are unable or unwilling to protect ALL the people, then they should turn in their badges. .. How many dead men will it take before the sheep wake up and see what these violent gangs are really doing, killing, robing, assaulting, beating, destroying the people? Are you still sheep enough to believe their lies? How many dead murdered men will it take to wake you up?

freespeech said on September 5, 2010 at 7:55 AM

The police officers are justified. They MUST protect themselves and the community and they are doing just that. So, if someone screams "FIRE" in the theatre, security should question him/her with a low voice and not hurt that person. NO, use all force necessary to stop the crazy person. Also, if someone says I have a bomb at the airport or at the train station, what treat them with kids' gloves...of course NOT. A crazy person can do CRAZY things. I am sorry for the family but they bear the biggest responsibly for the lack of protection for a sick person and if that person is on drugs then all bets are off. Thank you police officers for keeping me and my family safe.

brentallica said on September 5, 2010 at 7:14 AM

Wow bummer.....Lessons learned. 1) Don't act like a psychopath in public. 2) Don't attack cops or even pretend. Live another day. Seems pretty easy to me....

dkjamerican said on September 5, 2010 at 7:14 AM

javajoe how many police officer have died when they were tasared. In the past we have even read about police in other area tasaring 6 years old at school and a 87 year old women who died. I know the police are have dangerous jobs and are probably on edge with so many of their own being shot. They are going overboard these days.

noskills said on September 5, 2010 at 6:51 AM

I'm sorry but the police don't go out and look for someone to kill every night. They have a few seconds to make a decision. If people wouldn't be aggressive toward the police they wouldn't get hurt. Taser's usually dont kill people that's why they are used. This guy had to have something else going on physiologically.

javajoe said on September 5, 2010 at 3:04 AM

How is it that every time someone has an encounter like this with the police we hear that they were great guys? I doubt anyone in the neighborhood thought Colliers' was such a great guy Saturday morning when they called the police. Though the outcome is tragic it's Colliers' actions that put him in the situation that caused his unfortunate death. The police did exactely what they were supposed to do. Besides, all cops are tased themselves as part of their training.

policelie said on September 5, 2010 at 2:50 AM

I would like to add that I find it very unlikely that Adam was high and being rowdy, this would be totally unlike him. Perhaps the people in the area that were being loud left shortly before the police arrived? This would be a likely scenario. He may have approached them to give them information and the police instantly became aggressive. This would confuse a peaceful person because it would not register that they could possible be aiming their aggression at him. Adam was truly a gentleman and will be missed.

clear2copy said on September 5, 2010 at 2:47 AM

What's going on? don't pull weapons on cops and drop them when they tell you to. Where's the responsibility? There's sort of this tacit belief that one has the right to confront an Officer while armed and then it's the COP'S fault when they end up shot?

policelie said on September 5, 2010 at 2:45 AM

I knew Adam and I highly doubt he would attack officers. The lies in this case will hopefully be exposed. Adam was a peaceful person and I just do not believe this could happen. This is a true tragedy.

rastaj said on September 5, 2010 at 12:48 AM

What the f-ing HELL is going on?????

boobiewah said on September 5, 2010 at 12:46 AM

THIS HAS GOT TO STOP, POLICE KILLING ONE OR MORE,PERSONS A DAY IN SEATTLE-TACOMA A DAY.......WHAT IS GOING ON, IS ANYONE WATCHING----CARING....

boobiewah said on September 5, 2010 at 12:43 AM

THIS HAS GOT TO STOP..... POLICE KILLING AT LEAST ONE PERSON A DAY IN SEATTLE-TACOMA...

mrcrowley said on September 5, 2010 at 12:00 AM

If you will? What?

suzyo said on September 4, 2010 at 10:22 PM

Unhappy: Simple minds have simple thoughts. I am not anti Police, I have always taught my kids to obey the law and respect Officers. But when something like this happens you do have to question their actions.

genagee said on September 4, 2010 at 10:05 PM

So because he has this haircut he is a meth user???? Are you NUTS?? Maybe he was having a blood sugar issue or some other health problem.. why are you cynical jaded people so quick to think its drugs or that the person killed was a horrible person. Those two cops could have corroborated a story to cover their butts. All the facts aren't in yet.. but thank God we have all of you people to sit in judgement. 6 Officer involved deaths in as many days.... hmmmmm.

superhuman said on September 4, 2010 at 10:03 PM

Didn't the young officer who shot wood carver John T. Williams make up facts about said incident( according to witnesses)? Maybe what these policemen say should be taken with a grain of salt.

plutonomics said on September 4, 2010 at 9:42 PM

Really!!! Another one dead from a taser in less than two weeks. I guess that is why they use the term less lethal and not non lethal. To all the people saying he got what he deserved. That may be true, but I doubt he said when I grow up I want to be a drug addict. People are known to make bad decisions, it does happen. RIP

unhappy said on September 4, 2010 at 9:31 PM

look at his hair cut, meth user..............dont use meth and fight with the cops... of course he was a great guy, and this was not like him.... question is why did the cops get called in the first place and why did he fight them...... you fight with the cops you will get tased or shot..

clear2copy said on September 4, 2010 at 9:18 PM

Easy fix..don't do meth and your chances of waking up the next morning increase drastically.

pete33 said on September 4, 2010 at 9:14 PM

If police officers use a gun, they are screwed. If police officers use a taser, they are screwed. If police officers use pepperspray, they are screwed. If police officers punch someone during a confrontation, they are screwed. If police officers push someone during a confrontation, they are screwed. If a police officer looks at someone the wrong way, they are screwed, and finally to you anti police-thugs the existence of a police officer also screws them as well. IN OTHER WORDS, NO MATTER WHAT POLICE DO THEY ARE SCREWED, GET IT!!!!!

silverton said on September 4, 2010 at 9:10 PM

Why doesn't any news service in the Seattle area publish the full results of all police shooting investigations? Why do we already know that the man tazered to death a few days ago had an autopsy and nothing unusual was found, but in the case of the Federal Way shooting, in which police said that a man in a truck (which was stuck in a ditch) tried to back over a officer, and the officer shot him. Keep in mind that for the officers statement to be true, the bullet or bullets had to enter from the rear of the vehicle. He has been dead for many days, but they will not even release how many times he was shot, or where the bullets entered his body. Some people claim to know that he was shot in the side of the head at point blank range. I would like to know. And I would like to know where the report is of the suicidal man shot by Federal Way police about 2 months, ago. They still have not released one word about that shooting, not one word. Why?

jasongus said on September 4, 2010 at 8:46 PM

i knew adam very well. its not like him to to charge and create a conflict with police. adam was the most peaceful, laid back kinda guy that did everything he could to avoid conflict with anyone, especially an authority figure. i know gold bar is not the best place and a lot of meth heads and druggies are out there. but adam was not involved in that stuff. im saying the police could of handled that situation in a better non fatal manner, adam was 5'5 120lbs trying to take on two deputies please!!!! its just not right this doesnot sound like adam one bit. im very displeased once again with the snohomish county sheriffs department.

suzyo said on September 4, 2010 at 8:38 PM

Unhappy: I did look up what I could on his record and it looks like he had more traffic violations than anything else and some dept. Who doesn't have at least one traffic ticket or dept. if they don't well then they are pretty fortunate. Why do some people automatically jump to he was on drugs? Maybe he had been attacked by bee's or he was injured and tried getting help or maybe he was bipolar or whatever. Just because he was in Gold Bar doesn't make him a "Druggie". My point is if you don't know the facts don't accuse or assume. He is a human being with a family and friends and had a long life ahead of him and now he is gone and lives are forever changed.

vandamme said on September 4, 2010 at 8:23 PM

This should be a good lesson for all the drug addicts before getting high and rowdy!!!

silverton said on September 4, 2010 at 8:15 PM

If this case doesn't make it obvious to people that the cops are not interested in putting people in handcuffs, noting will. 2 tough guy cops can not take a 120lbs man to the ground and place him in cuffs? They simply like to shoot people with guns or stun guns. Seriously, have the cops lost their collective minds? I do think that the Tacoma shooting was probably the most justified shooting but why are they trained in hand to hand combat and use of billy clubs and mace if they are not going to use these options? One thing left out of this story, is that the cops own training tells them they are to avoid use a stun gun on someone suspected of being high on drugs, because their heart rates are already elevated, and using a stun gun will put them in cardiac arrest. I think the age of these cops as something to do with this case. Officers are 26 and 29. Cops who killed Native American in Seattle is 27 Hot head Rookies who crack under pressure and get scared easily.

unhappy said on September 4, 2010 at 8:06 PM

meth and tasers dont mix.....i'm sure when his criminal history comes out he'll trun out to be a little 120 pound lifelong criminal......gspilz your lost... do you read what you write.... stop watching tv, and go outside...

skippypotpiebaby said on September 4, 2010 at 8:05 PM

R. I. P.

lattelisa said on September 4, 2010 at 8:02 PM

I rather have my car stolen, my home vandalized, and burned to the ground than to see cops kill someone. This is just WRONG!

lattelisa said on September 4, 2010 at 7:58 PM

This is making me SICK! 6th time this week that cops killed someone unnecessarily. Cops are killing people with Tasers again. Something needs to be done so that this sort of thing can never happen again. Teenagers will be teenagers, this is so very sad that cops killed him.

auburngirl said on September 4, 2010 at 7:57 PM

I normally support the police if they have to take action to protect themselves. However it is sad that these deaths are occuring . I know that we all like to vent our fustrations on this blog. I appreciate being able to speak my mind and for the most part I can respect the people who take the time to share their thinking. I do get disturbed when people get really nasty about the police and in other cases mock the passing of a young persons life or that of someone who has mental illness. I have shared before when blogging about these kind of incident is that we have a huge and growing need for a mental health care system in ths country. Pay now or pay a lot more later !

bmx_123 said on September 4, 2010 at 7:52 PM

Dude i Knew Adam and he was never rough dude he weighed like 120,i bet the cops were way over that weight its kinda bull theres 2 cops that report there they could have restrained him, i seen a cop at shindig ,the guy was just sitting there and the cop kept tasing himm ad didnt stop!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Its All Bulllllll

sumithryo said on September 4, 2010 at 7:46 PM

Hey isee61 - I invite you to spend a week in Gold Bar with all the god**ned meth freaks and then see if you're still crying over law enforcement's behavior.

gspilz said on September 4, 2010 at 7:41 PM

Any man who fires upon another unarmed man is a coward, regardless of their occupation. Change the culture, where's the shame? Are the fellow officers with conscience so insecure in their dept's social environment that they can't say it how it is? Boundary conditions, folks; set them. Response to a wielded knife should be by taser, response to a threatening unarmed man should be by baton, response to another gun should be by gun. Change the rules. Fairly punish anyone who breaks them. Responding to a suicide call? Use a different set of criteria than above. There is no point in preventing a suicide with murder. If we don't make these simple changes, the solution-less downward spiral that we face ahead will lead us into a citizen-police dynamic that won't reverse. Media, you're losing public trust. Police, you're losing trust and public order. People, you're losing your ability to channel emotion into functional conversation. Words aren't having intended effect? Changem.

turk2104 said on September 4, 2010 at 7:31 PM

I would just like to educate some of you people on the effects of a Taser. Tasers send an electrical pulse into the body effecting the muscles. Most models operate at 50,000 volts and at approx 2-4 amps. It sounds like a lot but i know from personal experience that it only hurts for the 8-10 seconds that the device is active for. it is a perfectly safe way to gain compliance for law enforcement personnel. This is a tragic event that occurred with Adam and I wish his family the best. As for the officers they did their jobs as trained and there seems to be some unfortunate extenuating circumstances surrounding the event.

suzyo said on September 4, 2010 at 7:30 PM

It is my opinion that if two Officers can't control a man who weighs 120 bls. without using a tazer gun on him they should go back and get in better shape. Everyone has their opinion about what happened to this man, but unless you knew him don't call him an idiot. I hope that the Family hires an attorney and an investigator to get to the truth.

epicure43 said on September 4, 2010 at 7:22 PM

isee61, get a clue man!

epicure43 said on September 4, 2010 at 7:21 PM

Folks, I'll make it real simple here!! If a law enforcement officer asks you to do something, you best comply... this kid was obviously on drugs, whom in their right mind charges at police? personally I would have shot him, forget the taser at this point.

unhappy said on September 4, 2010 at 7:15 PM

funny,,, dude's running up the down street causing ptoblems, cops get called, dude fights cops...but yet its the cops fault cause he's a quiet guy..... what a bunch of ----.. fight the cops, you get what you get.....call the NAACP.. ....should have done it on the fwy and noone would have even responded.

gspilz said on September 4, 2010 at 7:12 PM

The most common justification you'll see in comments of taser death articles in google news imply that the citizen who has died had a life that was somehow of lesser value. Obviously these outrageous statements declaring the deserved death of unarmed people are made without many facts and just a few days before the court date that would have sentenced them to death for whatever their crimes were. When you emotionally declare in a public forum that a fellow unarmed citizen was deserving of his death after an unfortunate incident like this, I would struggle to find the empathy for you if you had a bad day of your own. If your own inner struggle to admit to yourself of simple problems that need to be fixed are capable of dragging you down to the point where you'd devalue human life completely, please keep it off of the internet. Others not as creative at justifications as you, but with an equal amount of denial, will virally replicate your cowardly methods all over cyberspace. thanks

gspilz said on September 4, 2010 at 6:47 PM

This debate is being mirrored in every US city, and with increased frequency as the incidents become almost commonplace. Whatever the problem is, it isn't going away or fixing itself. Citizens are expected to confront these types of problems in a republic-but it gets worse as every debate rages in pointless incendiary dialog like this. Search for 'taser' in google news and sample for yourself a few articles on similar incidents that have happened over the last few days across the US. (and the World) We all know that _all_ police aren't 'bad people' regardless of personal experiences with a bad-apple. Maybe emotions cloud logic because a penalty received after a minor infraction was too severe. Nobody, if they were forced to sit and evaluate their opinion, would be sure that cops are 'bad'. A judgement call on the character of every person of one occupation is ignorant and illogical. Likewise, it would be ignorant to think there isn't a problem here. This can be easily fixed.

kingster said on September 4, 2010 at 6:43 PM

I think the police are getting out of hand and the use of these electrical shock devices should be discontinued. You would not use a defibrillator on a perfectly healthy individual, why would you use it on someone other than when a cardiac condition requires it? These cops are not doctors - get a clue. I'm getting sick of reading about cops lilling people and they face no consequences. Incidents will increase because people will not wait to be killed - they will defend themselves.

invalid said on September 4, 2010 at 6:17 PM

@nt03hamlin: Just because you "know" him, doesn't mean you really KNOW him. Consider all of the nuts we've seen over the years whose friends and neighbors all thought that individual was the nicest, kindest, least nutty person on the planet. People we think we know can have a side we just don't know about. And the nuttiest are the best at hiding it.

homebrew4u2 said on September 4, 2010 at 5:23 PM

Funny how all these folks are said to be the kindest, friendliest people you would ever want to meet (the guy who killed the three cops in a coffee shop, the young girl in the bus tunnel etc, etc) only to find out later that they are just thugs, druggies, or just stupid. I am sure we will find this idiot fits nicely into one of these catagories. The cops are not the problem, and if they happen to do a little cleaning of the gene pool in the performance of their job I thank them!

sparkz said on September 4, 2010 at 5:22 PM

Learn to write proper sentences and then, maybe, I'll take any of you seriously.

seattlebusinessm said on September 4, 2010 at 5:12 PM

Yesterday it was "why do the police shoot people", and today its "tazers are are safe" lord people decide which one you want!

stryker said on September 4, 2010 at 4:35 PM

I smell another Clemons type incident coming...

trojan33 said on September 4, 2010 at 4:31 PM

I would have to say that the use of tasers in not that safe. I have heard the owner the company that makes those tasers say that no one has ever once died from their use. He is quite insane or just the worst liar ever. Either way, I think I might rather take a 9mm to both legs than have my heart take that shock.

mustbenice said on September 4, 2010 at 4:31 PM

This is the same "gentle person" that attacked two Sultan police officers, breaking bones in one of them, damaging a police car and then kicking over a police motorcycle...what a pillar in the community. Regardless of his affliction, whether it was drug abuse, mental illness or both, it is unfortunate that he didn't get the help he needed, but this isn't the Deputies fault. They respond and react to behavior, if he attacked them, they aren't going to hug him into submission. Maybe you should walk a mile in another man's shoes before casting blame on him.

booneecat55 said on September 4, 2010 at 3:57 PM

isee61 - Just curious - what does your rap sheet look like? Hmmm.

booneecat55 said on September 4, 2010 at 3:53 PM

Really? Why are the cops ALWAYS the bad guys on this site? When I call 911, I want the biggest and baddest cop to show up at my doorstep. Mr Collier was obviously out of control, and the cops did what they were trained to do. Take him down with the least force available to them. Mr Collier's nine lives ran out. Not the cops' fault. Sister - where were you when your brother still had time to be saved? I can't tell you how tired I am of the media promoting the welfare of guys like this. I will guarantee you, when all the facts are reported, that Mr Collier was a total drain on society's dwindling resources. The police officers involved in this incident are not to blame here. Mr Collier lost his own life - he handed it over to the first people that night to call his bluff. Better than the other way around.

isee61 said on September 4, 2010 at 3:33 PM

What is going on in this state? what ever happened to protect and serve. A citizen really needs to fear for their lives when dealing with the police. In the last week the police has been the judge, jury and executioner. if you are not afraid you should be.

nt03hamlin said on September 4, 2010 at 2:58 PM

There needs to be laws governing the usages of tasers. They are obviously not as harmless as once thought. Because there are no laws on when to use tasers, these cops will go free without any consequence. They could have just tased him because they didn't like the way he was talking to them or didn't like the way he looked, or hell, everyone knows everyone out there, it could very well been just a personal issue. Yes, the cops out there know everyone personally, it's a small community. I find it hilarious that you people are going completely off the officers report, and believing it's the word of God himself. You people are what is wrong with today's justice system and why juries do not work. You people already go in there thinking someone is guilty without any physical proof other than a officers word.

taxdollarsponge said on September 4, 2010 at 2:57 PM

Call a cop,watch a death.

nt03hamlin said on September 4, 2010 at 2:51 PM

I am completely beside myself from the way you people are talking about Adam. I went to school with this gentleman and he was nothing short of an amazing guy. He was very intelligent, and did very well in school as well as very charitable and helpful to all his peers. You people that make this sound like it was completely his fault are beyond sociopath like mentality. Just because you don't know him doesn't mean his life wasn't any more valid than yours. He had friends and family who loved him, and his death will impact many people for years to come. I grew up in Gold Bar and can tell you honestly that many of the officers out there have the "good ol boy attitude", and have no problem roughing up kids or adults and bending the the law in their favor. Adam was non aggressive, and responsible. Any "disturbance" cases are usually filed by old people who notice kids out in the park at night because there literally is nothing to do out in that town. The cops are crooks out there.

dasindog said on September 4, 2010 at 2:51 PM

mcd1975272738114.. So... you were there?

missbeverlyann said on September 4, 2010 at 2:45 PM

why do I feel we are not getting the full story here King5. I can't imagine someone beng sane charging an officer. Was he high? What did the officers do to provoke a fight/flight out of him? I some think there is more to this story than really meets the eye.

mcd1975272738114 said on September 4, 2010 at 2:33 PM

"Telman" Really? You have "No doubt he was tazed more than once" Were you there? Have YOU ever used a tazer defense weapon? Have YOU ever been confronted and threatened by a man and feared for your own safety? Do you have ANY CLUE of what you are talking about here? NO!!! Shut up and troll some where else clown

denkoko said on September 4, 2010 at 2:23 PM

SO, this kid is good looking and can play the guitar. SO WHAT. A nut case does not have to look like one to be one. With 16 previous arrests under this guys belt, he should have complied with the Police Officers orders. And YES they are there to PROTECT and SERVE. BUT. It does not say to let a criminal BEAT you up and KILL you. SO. Lay off the cops trying to do there jobs.

telman said on September 4, 2010 at 2:21 PM

Seems to me there is big uptick in police violence. What is going on? Do the police make a habit of killing drunks? I have no doubt this young man was tazed more than once.

skippypotpiebaby said on September 4, 2010 at 2:17 PM

So Sad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

beangrinder said on September 4, 2010 at 2:12 PM

My condolences to the family, but if his criminal background was as described in another comment, then it's hard to feel sorry for the victim.

dakotanative said on September 4, 2010 at 2:11 PM

If being drunk is a free pass, there are a lot of people that need charges dropped is they didn't hurt anyone.

blankingout said on September 4, 2010 at 1:48 PM

BTW, have all these death by taser occurences been happening in the past? Or now that the police cross the line on Protecting and Serving are we now just hearing about it?

blankingout said on September 4, 2010 at 1:46 PM

Skippy, companies like Starbucks, Microsoft, etc. have been involved in dozens of court cases over the last 5 years, what's your point? Least I know you'd make a good slave in a marshal law society. I come in your house waving my badge and you'd bend over.

tomma206 said on September 4, 2010 at 1:42 PM

@SUMITHRYO.Yes its that easy.Im not mad at you for bending over when a cop nears your presence.Its your nature because you were bullied in school.

skippythedog said on September 4, 2010 at 1:27 PM

"Citizens" do not fight with the cops; Culprits, perpetrators, convicts, offenders, malefactors, outlaws, miscreants, transgressors and general enemies of the public do that. Athlete, "guitar genius," whatever............. Adam Curtis Colliers has been a defendant in no less than 16 different cases in Snohomish County alone in the past 5 years.

logic14 said on September 4, 2010 at 1:11 PM

RIGHTS DEFENDER!!! PLEASE.....if sueing to make a living is defending rights well whatever. I rather be a LIFE DEFENDER. Police should survive first! Would you let someone harm you or your family before you took action? Well of course you would just sit there with a cell phone screaming for the police officer you condemn to come save your family because you can't and won't! Of course you would complain how they did it too.....idiot!

noexcuses said on September 4, 2010 at 12:58 PM

I guess all you liberal wackos would prefer that the police officers just sat and twiddled their thumbs until the dirt bag runs out of bullets or beats the crud out of them and takes their weapon. Police would not have to use this type of force if those involved had followed a few simple steps. When the police officer says stop, STOP. If he says jump, JUMP and the only question should be how high (question on asked after you start jumping). When he says to drop it drop it. Obey the officers commands and if the officers does do anything "wrong" or was out of line it can be taken care of using proper procedures later.

rightsdefender said on September 4, 2010 at 12:40 PM

Was the man tased once or multiple times? Administering multiple, concurrent taser shots can be lethal. To a 25-year old man, it's highly questionable that a single taser shot would kill. Regardless, ever since Maurice Clemmons murdered the four officers in Lakewood, WA on 11/29/09, all Washington state police officers seem to have adopted a posture of shoot first, and ask questions later. That's a bad disposition for any law enforcement agency to have. I fear many more citizens will lose their lives unnecessarily because officers have become more focused on self-preservation. 6 police killings in the last 6 days; this is very disturbing trend.

sumithryo said on September 4, 2010 at 11:57 AM

"another citizen buys the farm thanks to the police who protect us all. I guess this cop now is on PAID administrative leave too? Another prolonged vacation paid for by the taxpayers." Are you on CRACK???? You have redefined the term "unbelieveably stoopid dumbf***ing IDI0T!"

pixelater said on September 4, 2010 at 11:53 AM

whistleberrys, you're full of them. *** I find it very revealing that most people have no issues with reasonable doubt when it comes to regular citizens, you know, "Proof beyond a reasonable doubt, proof of such a convincing character that you would be willing to rely and act upon it without hesitation in the most important of your own affairs". Yet some of those same individuals have no problem withholding that reasonable doubt for Law Enforcement Personnel.

kbbcoop said on September 4, 2010 at 11:48 AM

another citizen buys the farm thanks to the police who protect us all. I guess this cop now is on PAID administrative leave too? Another prolonged vacation paid for by the taxpayers.

unwantedguest said on September 4, 2010 at 11:14 AM

Hey Whistleberries...Your ignorance is showing.

govsnitch said on September 4, 2010 at 11:14 AM

Seems the cop killing has sure gone up in last month.. The sad one some indian wood carver with 3 inch knife and chunk of wood.. murdered by cop for no reason !!!!!!!!!!! The guy was hard of hearing, more than likely drunk carving his wood.. BANG !! The investigtion always prove cops were justified.. Must be fun to be a legal killer with badge. Make instant decision to shoot to kill. What happen to high powered bean bag guns, or shoot suspect in non fatal area.. even there feet? Guess these is the new directive to slow down on jail/prison and public defender costs.. just kill them.

logic14 said on September 4, 2010 at 11:14 AM

Whistleberries!!!! Pretend a guy is on top of you beating your &$^#@ and you have a Taser in your hand.....I suppose you would just lay there and take it so you wouldn't "HURT" the poor man beating you to a pulp!

bac148 said on September 4, 2010 at 11:11 AM

Remember that guy who hopped on the field at a phillies game and the cops tased him cuz they couldn't catch him. He didn't die. what if he had? what would have to say about taser use then? I mean, if a taser is less lethal. Your telling me that it was worth potentially killing a college kid for running on a baseball field.

skippythedog said on September 4, 2010 at 10:51 AM

Not so many years ago, the cops only choice after being wrestled to the ground would have been to shoot the dirtbag at point blank range. They gave this guy a very fair chance. Too bad! ....hope the officers were not injured.

debmyre said on September 4, 2010 at 10:46 AM

Just how much electricity do these tasers have? Maybe time to adjust the current?

clear2copy said on September 4, 2010 at 10:41 AM

"when deputies arrived they were confronted by the combative man, who charged the deputies and fought with them to the ground."---- nuff said..

logic14 said on September 4, 2010 at 10:38 AM

In 2009 79 police officers were killed in the line of duty. So far in 2010 112 police officers, which is a 42% increase. If someone wants to fight the police and gets killed in the process, TOO BAD!!! Don't attack police officers. Also a Taser is considered "Less Lethal" but go ahead and take it away and see how lethal a .40 cal bullet is!!! A Taser is a additional tool to saves lives, most of teh time that is exactly what it does. Maybe you complainers, natives, and defenders of criminals rather have more dead police officers.

sumithryo said on September 4, 2010 at 10:37 AM

whistleberries, go paint your fingernails drama queen.

whistleberries said on September 4, 2010 at 10:24 AM

Hmmm... This is yet another grim statistic laid at the door of law enforcement. In the U.S. last year, there were about 94 police related uses of Taser equipment resulting in death. The statistics are higher when one adds other countries. The human body runs on electricity. When that delicate balance has a severe disruption, it can increase the human heartbeat by as much as 200 to 300 beats per minute. This can result in immediate cardiac arrest. Yeppp, Taser deployment can result in electrocution, so to speak, without the benefit of trial, jury, judge, reviews, appeals, etc. In some cases, Taser use is just some “street justice by cop” – all in the line of duty, of course; and the Taser use carefully defended by the police. More than likely, police agencies will have to reconsider the use of the Taser as part of their equipment. Eventually, there will be lawsuits decided in favor of very large monetary awards to the dead suspect’s family or relatives.

applmagotqrntine said on September 4, 2010 at 10:09 AM

That's four deaths by cops in as many days in the PNW. What the heck is going on over there?