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Critics question Sound Transit's eastside light rail cost estimates

by ROBERT MAK / KING 5 News

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Posted on January 14, 2011 at 7:40 PM

Updated Friday, Jan 14 at 8:41 PM

BELLEVUE , Wash. -- A group of Bellevue homeowners is alleging that Sound Transit has intentionally increased cost and risk estimates of a proposed light rail alignment, to make it look worse. The agency says it’s just not true, but it’s a sign of how much tension there is in a debate over where trains will travel.

Two years after voters approved extending light rail to the eastside, the debate over the light rail path through south Bellevue is far from settled. Sound Transit has chosen a preferred route, which includes coming across Interstate 90, turning north on Bellevue Way and going up 112th Street into downtown.

But homeowners in neighborhoods like Surrey Downs and Enatai have erected signs protesting the route, saying there’s no reason to bring trains by their established neighborhoods. The majority of the Bellevue City Council supports a different route. Light rail would continue along I-90 across the Mercer Slough, then turn north using an abandoned railroad line that follows I-405. 

Sound Transit says that route is more expensive.

“This is a high risk business,” says Ric Ilgenfritz, Sound Transit’s Planning Director.  “When you are building big projects in sensitive environments, there is risk.”

Rosmann alleges that Sound Transit made a number of decisions intentionally driving up cost estimates, to make the old railroad route look worse. When Sound Transit studied using the abandoned railway, it added the cost of a new walking and bike trail next to the tracks. That trail adds millions of dollars because it involves significant re-grading of the land, triggering the need for new retaining walls.

Rosmann says no one’s going to use the trail, because there are perfectly good trails already through the entire slough.

“It’s a convenient way to make the cost high, it’s that clear,” Rosmann says.

In reality, the trail debate isn’t that clear. Ilgenfritz says Sound Transit’s estimates of cost and risk are accurate and fair.  As railroads have sold off their rights-of-way nationwide, the federal government has encouraged converting these corridors into trails.  King County’s contract to buy this particular roadway clearly says the county intends to use it as part of a trail system.  The principle is that trails can be easily converted back to rail use and railroads could reclaim the space if the demand for freight rail ever comes back.

“We can’t do anything to change that,” Ilgenfritz said.  “We have no discretion and we can’t do anything but try to fit our transit line in adjacent to it.”

Rosmann says railroads aren’t coming back, especially after the state, two years ago, demolished the Wilburton Tunnnel.  Unless a railroad wants to rebuild an overpass across I-405, the abandoned corridor is no longer connected.  Rosmann says it’s highly unlikely freight will return.

“It will be a cold day in hell. It ain’t going to happen,” Rosmann says.

Bellevue City Councilman Kevin Wallace, who was elected promising to support the railway option, agrees a trail is unnecessary.

“These things can be resolved. You can have competing uses of light rail, freight rail and trail that all need to be addressed--that doesn’t mean they can’t be addressed,” Wallace said.

Regardless of whether a trail is needed, Sound Transit says another reason the route along the railroad won’t work is ridership.  One of the big advantages of putting light rail on Bellevue Way is that trains can stop at the existing Bellevue Way Park and Ride, already a major hub for transit.  Under the railroad route, the trains would stay along I-90, and would be too far away to connect with the Bellevue Way Park and Ride facility.

“We have to let folks get on to the system so they’ll ride it,” says Claudia Balducci, a member of the Sound Transit Board and a Bellevue City Council member who supports the Bellevue Way option.

With four of the seven Bellevue council members opposed to Sound Transit’s preferred route, the council has hired a consultant to study the possibility of building a new Park and Ride lot at the very south end of Bellevue Way, at the intersection of I-90.  That way, the route using the railroad corridor would still be able to pick up passengers at Bellevue Way.

The Council unanimously has asked Sound Transit to hold off on a final route choice until that consultant study is back.

We’ll explore these issues and more Sunday, Jan. 16 on KING 5 News Up Front, 9:30 Sunday morning.

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b2isforyou said on January 18, 2011 at 11:30 AM

b7, really, do you think typing in capital letters and questioning the intelligence of those debating your point of view is going to win them over? You make claims but cite no sources. You claim assertions that simply aren't true or are based on sheer conjecture. You say "don't destroy our neighborhood" but what you mean is "destroy someone else's neighborhood instead." How do you think the residents of Emerald Ridge feel about a train just a short distance from their back doors? That's what you're proposing. How do you think the property owners in Enatai who will lose their homes to a parking garage feel? That's what you're proposing. How do you think the Enatai residents who will live across the street from a six-story parking structure will feel? That's what you're proposing. You make assertions about construction and traffic management plans that haven't even been made yet. The reality is we don't know what those impacts are because those plans don't yet exist.

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b7isbetter said on January 17, 2011 at 10:34 PM

We would love it in South Bellevue if you put the train over the 520 bridge - go for it. Also, dear bellevue guru, I am not sure how many times and how many different ways we can say it - BBB IS IN FAVOR OF MASS TRANSIT AND CONNECTING TO THE EASTSIDE - WE JUST DO NOT WANT OUR NEIGHBORHOODS DESTROYED AND TRAFFIC CHAOS CREATED when a better routing alternative exists - the station would serve the needs of many more folks if it were closer to I-90 - why create and entirely new transportation corridor when one already exists - irrational and ridiculous - closing Bellevue way lanes south of the city for years and then running trains perpendicular to bell way 112th traffic at grade is insanity - use the existing track what do you not understand? how many years of education have you achieved? just curious

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wellcraft19 said on January 17, 2011 at 3:52 PM

South Bellevue does not want LR, or can't agree on a route. Time to take it away from the and route LR over SR-520. We north of you would welcome (better) access to LR, and there has to significant cost savings in building the new SR-520 bridge and LR in conjunction, rather than dabbling with NIMBYs in south Bellevue. If ST still claims that the downtown tunnel will not support more northbound trains, they either have to learn from elsewhere (cities with real mass transit) or simply lift a few bus lines up and out of the tunnel.

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b2isforyou said on January 17, 2011 at 12:19 PM

Hey B7 folks, open your books so the public can see who is donating money to your cause. What are you afraid of? Why isn't your entity registered with the State? The public will continue to think that Kemper, this co-appelants in the lawsuit and Wallace Properties are funding you until you show some transparency.

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honestroutes said on January 16, 2011 at 2:27 PM

The amount of mis-information noted below makes many of the comments suspect. * A look above I-90 and 520 bridges shows cars going both ways, into and out of Bellevue on both morning and evening commutes. * Ms. Balducci was NOT appointed to the Sound Transit Board by any Bellevue City Council, but by the King County Exec. * Look at who exactly is having to primarily fund Sound Transit across the I-90 bridge. It is NOT Seattle, nor Redmond, nor Mercer Island. It is Bellevue. * We don't have to wait for Bellevue residents to complain about the cost of parking in downtown Seattle, many Seattlites already do, unless you follow the lead of Seattle's biking Mayor. * A look at the document published by the BBB comparing Sound Transit's projections on costs, ridership and speed point out a very negative bias against the B7 route, AND * Reality is that Sound Transit failed miserably to meets it's promise as to plan, schedlue, route, costs and ridership on the Central Link in Seattle.

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bellevueguru said on January 16, 2011 at 1:18 PM

Ah so, Joe Rossman presents the true views of Build a Better Bellevue. It seems he said something to the extent of "light rail makes it easier for unwelcome folks to get here." Unwelcome folks, huh? Who's unwelcome? Who would ever be unwelcome in Bellevue? Criminals, maybe? But I don't think that's just it. You see, when you have a person like Kemper Freeman who's donating generously to the anti-Sound Transit cause and saying things like "look at the people who shop at Southcenter," it's hard not to think there's some social prejudice involved. What's the matter, is your precious sheltered upper-class lifestyle being infringed upon? Oh and for the record, any "unwelcome" person that would have ever wanted to come to Bellevue can get there just as easily today as they would with light rail.

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bellevueguru said on January 16, 2011 at 1:12 PM

Ah yes, and attacking councilmember Degginger as well. I can't take BBB seriously until you actually debate the facts of B7 vs. B2M up front instead of feeling so insecure about actually discussing the alignment merits that you must resort to distractions like false conflicts of interest accusations. Perhaps you're aware that Lane Powell isn't taking up a Sound Transit East Link-related case? I wonder why BBB is so obsessed with this... it's as if you are expecting the City of Bellevue to pursue litigation to lure Degginger into a conflict case. If the city stops obstructing the regional process, then perhaps litigation will be unnecessary!

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bellevueguru said on January 16, 2011 at 1:09 PM

Oh, b7isbetter, I see you're quoting from Kevin Wallace's op-ed, flawed as ever with inaccuracies and misleading rhetoric. I don't suppose you've ever been to Maple Leaf or Montlake but I suggest you do so, both neighborhoods are nothing like Surrey Downs or Enatai. The right of ways are much more limited, the neighborhoods far denser, and the elevation not supportive of an at-grade alignment. Get your facts straight, Claudia Balducci does not have any obligation to represent the majority views. If she was appointed under the previous council when the majority did NOT support B7, I hardly believe you'd dare to bring this point up. King County Payroll? What are you? Still pursuing nonsense? Sound Transit is a separate entity from the County. Are you telling me that the jail administration is suddenly responsible for light rail?

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b7isbetter said on January 16, 2011 at 11:55 AM

The Surrey Downs and Enatai neighborhoods are similar to Seattle's Maple Leaf and Montlake neighborhoods. Imagine the reaction in Seattle if Sound Transit proposed to run light rail at-grade up Roosevelt Way through Maple Leaf, or to condemn 47 homes in Montlake because running at-grade next to Montlake Boulevard would be less expensive than tunneling. Sound Transit protected these neighborhoods in Seattle and should do no less for Bellevue

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b7isbetter said on January 16, 2011 at 11:52 AM

Claudia Balducci is on the Sound Transit Board and she is representing the MINORITY of Bellevue - she is on the King County payroll and she is a slave to her paycheck and could give a darn about what is right for Bellevue - why is she on the Sound Transit Board misrepresenting what is best for Bellevue and a minority position? Could it have something to do with her KIng County paycheck? We need someone representing Bellevue, not someone representing her paycheck who is sleeping with folks on the other side of the bridge who would NEVER allow a train to destroy its cherished neighborhoods. Democratic precepts would suggest that (i) the mayor of Bellevue, or (ii) someone representing what Bellevue voters want should represent Bellevue's best interests on the Sound Transit BoardrGrant Degginger is a partner in a law firm who had as a client Sound Transit -- talk about a gold mine - taxpayer supported billing!! Please do what is better for Bellevue

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bellevueguru said on January 16, 2011 at 10:49 AM

Ah yes, a mixture of ideological rants and unfounded accusations are the prime of your organization, b7isbetter. Councilmember Balducci has a conflict of interest? She works for the King County Jail and has no pecuniary connect whatsoever to Sound Transit. It's pathetic that this group is using this accusation to pick off councilmembers it doesn't like. How about Mr. Wallace? Did you know that he's very interested in rezoning areas along the B7/C14E path? Are you aware that his family co. owns many of those properties? Also, if you haven't noticed, B2M encroaches only upon wetland buffers, whereas B7 inflicts direct impacts on the Slough wetlands. An engineering nightmare? Try driving piles into unstable peat and building a $180M parking garage into the Enatai hillside and you have a real "costly engineering nightmare."

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tiggerme2 said on January 15, 2011 at 1:59 PM

I would say that it is obvious that Bellevue does not want light rail, so to hell with them. Let them continue to drive their big gas guzzeling SUV's over tolled bridges, and then whine about the high price of downtown parking.

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b7isbetter said on January 15, 2011 at 12:21 PM

Sound Transit's current "preferred alternative" from Interstate 90 to the Bellevue Transit Center is simply unacceptable. South of downtown, the proposed route runs adjacent to Bellevue Way, the only arterial connecting downtown Bellevue to I-90. This would result in severe traffic congestion during EastLink's six-year construction period. It would subject Bellevue neighborhoods to the noise impacts being experienced by Tukwila neighborhoods. It requires condemnation of 47 homes and places the train adjacent to the homes that remain. Its impacts violate Bellevue's Comprehensive Plan.

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b7isbetter said on January 15, 2011 at 12:03 PM

A rail line traveling through wetlands, in residential neighborhoods, elevated along a fault line, going below the water table and back up again is a costly engineering nightmare. Throw a few curves in and you have an amusement park ride. In addition, this alignment impacts the speed the train can go. It creates safety issues for several neighborhoods, displaces families, cuts off access to the slough, disrupts a historical landmark, impacts the blueberry farm and creates construction problems, traffic mitigation issues, and visual blight and noise impacts. Sound Transit has yet to resolve its environmental and community impacts that are currently plaguing the public in Tukwila and the Rainier Valley. The noise problem has not been fixed and exceeds Federal Safety Regulations. Sound Transit is over-budget and the ridership continues to decline against predictions. Good quality and quantity of information provided to the groups most impacted is lacking. Is it a game of bait and switch

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kboard306 said on January 15, 2011 at 12:00 PM

I think the issue is not just with Bellevue. I think it is with all of Sound Transit. It seems like they have mismanaged the money voters approved for the region. I also have to wonder why we can sell bonds to build stadiums and get them up and running with a couple of years, but not with this regionally needed project. Is it possible many of our politicians on the Board might be out of work when the project is finally completed? I would also like to know why we have trains that run from Tacoma to Seattle, but they don't run all day. They only run during the commute. I would ride the train and probably go to Seattle on a more regular basis if we had trains running regularly during the day.

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b7isbetter said on January 15, 2011 at 11:55 AM

The new alignment Bellevue is studying simply improves upon alignments Sound Transit has already proposed. It runs on the vacant BNSF freight rail corridor next to Interstate 405, avoiding impacts to our neighborhoods. In downtown it runs along the I-405 frontage road (114th) to Northeast Second Street, avoiding the neighborhood impacts at Main Street. It then tunnels under 110th Avenue and Northeast Fourth Street to avoid traffic impacts. The South Bellevue station will be the same size as Sound Transit proposes yet closer to I-90, enabling more convenient access from the freeway.No changes to the downtown Bellevue station will be required. In short, the new alignment should produce similar ridership at similar cost to Sound Transit's preferred alternative, but without the unacceptable impacts to the city. Sound Transit declined to conduct the study of this alignment, citing budget and schedule impacts. This left Bellevue with the choice of sacrificing its neighborhoods to light rail

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b7isbetter said on January 15, 2011 at 11:52 AM

The Final EIS should be delayed so that we can consider the results of the unbiased study being paid for by Bellevue taxpayers due to Sound Transit's failure to properly consider the B-7 alternative and then to surreptitiously blind side us by suggesting we have some say by letting us choose options within the its preferred route after the fact? The manner in which Sound Transit has tried to deceive us is painfully clear. The first time I received notice about my ability to provide input on routing alternatives was AFTER sound transit on its own decided on its preferred routing, apparently in hopes of obtaining additional federal funding under some concocted theory of increased ridership. I am as upset with how Sound Transit is proceeding as I am with its intention to unnecessarily destroy neighborhoods, increase traffic congestion for all of our citizens on major arterials, etc. Use the existing train track!

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b7isbetter said on January 15, 2011 at 11:44 AM

claudia - you should be ashamed of yourself - please represent what is best for bellevue and not your political future and paycheck as a King County Employee - those Seattle Sound Transit Folks just love you I am sure!!!!!!!!!!!!!! they should worry not only about their jobs and "ridership" but should also think about the impacts on neighborhoods and the quality of our lives over here on the Eastside. and grand degginger's firm is collecting huge fees from the taxpayer supported Sound Transit - Sound Transit is a major client of Grant's law firm - he is representing SoundTransit and NOT BellevueuAnd if the modified B-7 plan is adopted so that a massive park and ride is constructed closer to I-90 (which makes total sense to begin with!!!) prove to me why "ridership will be greater by snaking these trains through beautiful neighborhoods and essentially destroying a way of life for many in Bellevue- not just the neighborhoods but the traffic chaos being created

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b7isbetter said on January 15, 2011 at 11:37 AM

this can be avoided to a much larger degree with B-7 Posted on January 6, 2011 at 2:03 PM Updated today at 3:27 PM SEATTLE -- Light rail service has been temporarily halted after a pedestrian was struck by a train at S. Holgate Street. A man was reportedly crossing a sidewalk when he was struck by a train, said a Sound Transit official. He was taken to Harborview Medical Center, where he is in critical condition. Northbound light rail service is temporarily suspended between the SODO and Beacon Hills stations. Rail service was expected to be shut down for several hours during the investigation

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b7isbetter said on January 15, 2011 at 11:33 AM

I wonder how many of the Sound Transit employees (I hear a big sucking noise!) have considered the increased importance and increased traffic on Bellevue Way and 112th South of Bellevue now that the 520 bridge will be tolled but not I-90? Most of us are confounded as to why tolls would be imposed on 520 but not the I-90 bridge; this alone will increase congestion on 405 between downtown Bellevue and increase traffic dramatically on the only other alternative- BELLEVUE WAY/112th! Now add to this mix an extended Sound Transit construction period with Bellevue Way/112th Lane closures followed by a TRAIN running over Bellevue Way/112th every 7 minutes with whistles blowing and gates opening and closing - I would suggest that Sound Transit consider the broader negative implications of it's "preferred route".

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clear2copy said on January 15, 2011 at 11:32 AM

agreed.. this area is decades behind both the country and world in public transportation. A mediocre (at best) transit system with a tiny tease of a light rail system.. (that's only a couple years old) We should have had viable rail surrounding and connecting the Eastside with the North and South of the lake 20 years ago. It'll still be ages before we connect the entire I5 corridor with rail.

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famished said on January 15, 2011 at 11:29 AM

I'd not mind it if we just excluded Bellevue from the Greater Seattle area. I think that folks there should reread Neiwert's book about the history of Bellevue. They are still exclusionaries. Let's save our tax money for projects that we can all appreciate like expanding light rail to Ballard and West Seattle...(oh, we once did have a plan for that...)

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scott_bellevue said on January 15, 2011 at 9:13 AM

Those opposed are being selfish. It's not about the cost, it's that they want Bellevue to be this perfect little Stepford type community, with no traffic sounds, no bubble gum and no public transportation. The original route through the South Bellevue Way park and ride is the best route, as it's the route that offers the most convenience and will get the most riders. Those opposed want to move it to an obscure route next to 405 that frankly is out of the way of everything, it's off the beaten path, and while you won't have to see it, people won't use it either, because it's out of the way. I think these selfish luddites should quit complaining and let us get on with making modern transportation.

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maynerdgkrebbs said on January 15, 2011 at 8:36 AM

it would seem to move the park and ride lots,don't build trails. Use the Park and ride as hubs for buses to transport to local areas. Sooner or later your precious train will want to go to Issaquah and beyond lay the ground work for that NOW.

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nomorekoolaid said on January 15, 2011 at 7:08 AM

OMG Bellevue! We know you don't want to have real progress in your backyard. Why would you want to have easy access to intelligent transport? Bring the product where it is needed? You just might find the light rail an excellent way to get to the airport to use that condo on the islands! You might actually find it is a fun and simple way to travel. Of course, you'll save money and won't have to pay to park. Then there will be the relief on the bridges for those who need it. But then, 'those people' might travel through your neighborhood. Get over yourselves.

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minimiser said on January 15, 2011 at 1:00 AM

Well thanks for highlighting this issue, but its somewhat similar to what was published earlier this week by the Seattle Times. Moreover, its nothing new to those that monitor the downward spiral of things lately in Bellevue....What a shame! In my view, this is just a red herring by those that want to re-route the East link instead of using Bellevue Way as the best corridor. I mean do the NIMBYs really think the alternative is better, given that it would go across the slough and create greater environmental mitigation issues and costs? The Council should be ashamed of itself, asking for another study that will cost tax payers even more in the face of the the current economic conditions. In the end, the City will end up getting sued by Sound Transit but East Link will go in through Bellevue Way, albeit delayed and for what? The only ones on the Council showing any foresight or leadership are Chelminiak and Balducci. Otherwise they are all a bunch of Kemper Freeman lackeys!

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arcticfireguy said on January 14, 2011 at 11:15 PM

Gosh, I sure wish I could figure out why our state has gone broke... Seawater tunnels at the downtown waterline of Seattle, light and mono-rail systems that do not support their operation with their income. Go figure....

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