State Senate passes same-sex marriage bill

coffeeinseattle said on February 3, 2012 at 3:21 PM

@treeclimber: I take it that you are heterosexual. Can you produce statistics of how many pedophiles are homosexual and how many are heterosexual? If it so happens that more heterosexuals are pedophiles, would you petition to bar heterosexual marriages because it creates pedophiles. Were you dropped as a kid? or were you just thrown?

mitchruth said on February 3, 2012 at 11:13 AM

Despite the religious contention that our government was framed by Christians for Christians, the Constitution was written by people who had suffered the abuses of a theocracy and was carefully crafted to preclude theocratic principles from its pages. Marriage is either a religious accord, or it is a civil union. If it is a religious accord it must be stripped of any special privilege of law or allowed to afford any civil right or privilege not available to non-participants. If it is a civil accord, it must be a privilege equally available to all citizens. One cannot simultaneously proclaim marriage to be a religious concept with the only valid concept of marriage being the mainstream "Christian" concept of marriage and insist that it be encoded into law. If this is not so, then why do we work so hard to force other cultures to replace Sharia law with a system that closely mirrors our own? Is it about human rights and equality, or is it really about religion?

bluebirdbeetle said on February 3, 2012 at 10:42 AM

@treeclimber: My husband and I (heterosexual marriage) sleep with our children between us all the time. We have 5 kids, and they all take turns sleeping with us. They enjoy it, and so do we. Are you suggesting there's something sexual going on with parents who co-sleep with their children? You do know there is a BIG difference between homosexuals and pedophiles, right?

plungginalong said on February 3, 2012 at 10:08 AM

@treeclimber...MOST ALL PEDOHILES ARE STRAIGHT MARRIED MEN THAT HAVE SEX WITH LITTLE BOYS OR JUST STRAIGHT MEN, YOU CAN THROW IN A FEW WOMAN THAT LIKE TO HAVE SEX WITH YOUNG TEENAGE BOYS TOO. Gay men and woman like someone of there own age. AND THEN TAKE A LOOK AT ALL THESE RELIGIOUS LEADERS THAT ARE PEDOPHILES, THESE CATHOLICS HAVE BEEN GETTING AWAY WITH HAVING SEX WITH YOUNG BOYS SINCE THE CATHOLIC CHURCH WAS FIRST BUILT. SO YOU BETTER LOOK UP YOUR STAT''S ON THAT ONE. YOU WILL BE IN SHOCK TREECLIMBER.

tootoo said on February 3, 2012 at 9:42 AM

@treeclimber Can't tell if joking or just Eastern Washingtonian...

treeclimber said on February 3, 2012 at 9:30 AM

adoption agencys will have to shut down to try and protect the orphans from the homosexuals that will be allowed by law to adopt as many as they want ,A K A ELTON JOHN AND HIS BACK DOOR BUDDIE,WHO ADOPTED A LITTLE BOY TO SLEEP BETWEEN THEM,,,,,IF HOMOSEXUALS ARE ALLOWED THE SAME RIGHTS AS MARRIED MEN AND WOMEN (GOD HELP THE LITTLE ORPHANS,),,

ptjolly said on February 3, 2012 at 9:23 AM

The Spaghetti Monster laughs at Thor and touches him with his noodley appendages. Most gods don't mind gay people getting married. There was a vote among all the gods and goddess' and gay marriage passed easily.

tootoo said on February 3, 2012 at 6:37 AM

@priv62 The Almighty Thor begs to differ and will smite your puny "God" with his mighty Mjölnir. He has voiced approval of the passing of the gay marriage bill.

ThinkN-Do said on February 2, 2012 at 8:59 PM

Thank you JC for the three Democrats who know how to think for themselves, too bad there aren't more that know how. Oh well, it doesn't really affect my life, not directly. I'll just sit back and watch the ramifications take place, it'll be rather exciting I am sure.

jonjuan said on February 2, 2012 at 7:54 PM

Hay maybe christy should be looking for a new tax here?

Greenlake said on February 2, 2012 at 7:27 PM

Woooo Hoooo!! This means that we are only a few years away from dudes in Enumclaw getting legal right to marry their....partners!! Way to go Washington State!

priv62 said on February 2, 2012 at 7:04 PM

ALL have sinned (except Jesus Christ) and fallen short of the glory of God...one difference between christians and non-christians is that as a christian you admit your offenses against God and other people, ask their forgiveness and try to do better (for me this usually means asking God to help me change my ways).

Ismellcrap said on February 2, 2012 at 5:31 PM

The Divorce Lawyers of this state must be jumping for joy.... I plan on never being married, my non-wife and I have been getting all the same rights as Gays have been given without the need to be married... Marriage is a spiritual thing, not a legal obligation... The most miserable I have seen anyone is when they are getting divorced... Why anyone would want to be legally married is beyond me.... Funny how so many people think of marriage as a religious thing, only to get divorced with zero religious fallout or guilt..

Tony_Jolleyd78 said on February 2, 2012 at 5:25 PM

Preserve the sanctity of marriage by electing Newt Gingrich our next president.... Oh, wait...

plungginalong said on February 2, 2012 at 5:15 PM

All these Bible banggers for days have been saying, doesn't this state have better things to do like balancing the budget or don't they have better things to do other than this, we have heard it for days and days....And now they flip the record and all they say is how they can't wait to get enough signatures to get it on the Ballot for this coming election. Excuse me but I thought they didn't want to hear about this issue because there was more important things to do in Olympia? But look who keeps it going on and on?

Tony_Jolleyd78 said on February 2, 2012 at 5:06 PM

[[[humevo said on February 2, 2012 at 4:36 PM Thank you Jesus for the four Republican Senators who apparently have the ability to think for themselves.]]] Wow. I think my brain just exploded from the irony. A person who unquestioningly follows what's written in an ancient book of mythology is "thinking for themselves"?

andyblue555 said on February 2, 2012 at 4:53 PM

Really keeppraying. First you say there must be more important matters then you are the first to say you want to create a referendum and take time away from more important matters. People see you for what you really are. You out yourself. What a hateful world you live in. And you will fail again. Sit and stew in your hatred all you want. The rest of us will celebrate! WOO HOOOOOO!!!!!

andyblue555 said on February 2, 2012 at 4:48 PM

Thank you Jesus for yet another failed scheme by republican senator who fought to deny rights to yet another group of people. They people who talk about some fictional sanctity of marriage are full of it. Remember when they fought shared drinking fountains for blacks fearing the sanctity of white only drinking water? Same garbage different year. These people are a joke. it is too bad they can come here and show such hatred while hiding behind a screen name. Cowardly and nothing but.

keeppraying said on February 2, 2012 at 4:45 PM

Really? Such bad news! There must be more important matters for our senators to vote on. Bring on the referendum battle. When can opponents start signing? I'm sure there are 120,577 people that will sign right now... there are 2 in our household...a man and a woman whose marriage is blessed by God.

humevo said on February 2, 2012 at 4:36 PM

Thank you Jesus for the four Republican Senators who apparently have the ability to think for themselves.

mmullvain said on February 2, 2012 at 4:35 PM

Hey 007Jayme, do us all a favor and drink the coolaid already you close-minded idiot.

JacksonM said on February 2, 2012 at 4:24 PM

Taylorwood, when people do nothing but call us sick (see colesweetpea for that one) and try and use the bible hypocritically to condemn us, that is the very essence of hate and bigotry. If someone wants to offer up an argument of actual substance, rather than religious arguments, I will gladly listen. But, this country is not a theocracy, so religion does not apply to this argument. The church does not make the law. We have separation of church and state to ensure that churches do not make the law. Want to use history? Interracial marriages were once against the law. People were convinced letting people marry interracially would be the downfall of civilization. Was it? Historically, women were not granted the right to vote in this country. If we want to talk about what the founding fathers had in mind, then we need to return to those ideas across the board, right? After all, the founding fathers didn't want it. See? Try something of real substance. We'll wait.

RDexter said on February 2, 2012 at 3:46 PM

@007jayme says: [[[[== "Sad day in wash state when gov and sum people feel that they have the right to change what the bible has taught us. The union of man and women." ==]]]] Or a man and a woman and a woman and a woman and a woman. I mean, polygamy was all the rage in Biblical times, so I take it you're totally cool with allowing a dude to have multiple wives, right? But more to the point, did you know that the United States of America is not actually founded on Christianity or the Bible? It's founded on religious freedom, which means we don't have to use that barbaric book of yours as the foundation for the rights we grant one another.

RDexter said on February 2, 2012 at 3:44 PM

@colesweetpea says: [[[[== "In my opinion they should not be allowed to have children or raise them either. It's all just sick." ==]]]] What is it *exactly* that gay people do that is so "sick"? Love each other? Make homes for their partners and their children? Have sex in all the same ways that straight people have sex? I mean, I don't get it. There must be something magical about gay people if they can turn what's perfectly normal for straight people into something "sick" just by pairing up with someone of their own gender.

RDexter said on February 2, 2012 at 3:41 PM

@fastreader says: [[[[== "'Together we stand and divided we fall.' And from some of the comments I"ve read, You gays and lesbians are the children of the antichrist... I'm sure that a murderer could give you an equally emotional sob story as to his right to having commited a murder..." ==]]]] Funny how you can talk about the importance of unity and then say ridiculously divisive things in the next breath. I'm glad your god doesn't actually exist. Anyone who could consider two people loving each other the moral equivalent of murder is a monster.

seamikey said on February 2, 2012 at 3:37 PM

Oh no! NOW what do I do as a single heterorsexual man who is not involved in any sort of relationship, committed or otherwise? This is gonna RUIN my life! (For the sarcasm-challenged amongst us...the preceeding statements were sarcasm). More power to 'em, I say! I have gay friends, coworkers, and family members. This is not going to affect me or how I live my life in the least.

Tony_Jolleyd78 said on February 2, 2012 at 3:37 PM

@007jayme: It's ridiculous that this needs to be said so often, but The Bible is *your* book of rules. It's not my book of rules. If you want to live by those rules, go right ahead, but you have no right to force others to live by the rules of *your* religion.

mellybelly323 said on February 2, 2012 at 3:03 PM

@007jayme - you might want to sit down a minute, grab a dictionary and maybe use punctuation in the correct format. Once you've done that, repost and maybe we can figure out what the heck you're trying to say. It's all well and good to have an opinion, but if we can't decipher your run on sentences, your fragmented sentenses and your spelling, your opinion is doing you absolutely no good. And you're certainly not winning any arguments that way.

plungginalong said on February 2, 2012 at 3:02 PM

@007jayme...Your Bible is a old book wrote by Man. It wasn't wrote by God or Jesus..Sorry, but this is about Rights and Freedoms for all people. Just like is states in this Country, That All Men Are Created Equal. People don't have to go by your Bible rules. If we went by everything the Bible says we would be stoning people every day.

007jayme said on February 2, 2012 at 2:58 PM

To change how the church has raised us in the years, now the gov will change God law about the union of man and women. Those in office that said yes, need to find a new job, if you cannot stay with you faith, and only voted yes to stay in office. Those that feel that this is not! This is not about your rights, nor your liberty, or even that, this is about the union I Of man and women as the bible. Your union is only what it is, the depth of evil. No respect, will not honor, hide in the depth of your closed doors, hide.

mmullvain said on February 2, 2012 at 2:57 PM

Yay! I love the Gays. They deserve the right to be married. All that really matters is that the hearts and souls fit together to make a family. Congrats!

007jayme said on February 2, 2012 at 2:50 PM

Sad day in wash state when gov and sum people feel that they have the right to change what the bible has taught us. The union of man and women. This is not about rights this is not about freedom, god laws. Any person that does, I will not honor them as they say or the gov, the gov wanted money, the people in office just wanted to stay in office, and those that voted yes, need to be removed from there office and find someone that still has faith and stand with there faith.

Tony_Jolleyd78 said on February 2, 2012 at 2:49 PM

@taylorwood: When one side is basing their objections on a few passages in a book of mythology, then, yes, I do think we can call that side ignorant.

taylorwood said on February 2, 2012 at 2:26 PM

@JacksonM: You're running awfully fast and loose with facts, and / or truths. I empathize with you, but your logic is askew. When one doesn't agree with your point of view, it isn't necessarily based upon "hate", "bigotry", and "ignorance".

fwkc63 said on February 2, 2012 at 2:24 PM

@fastreader - I am so glad that I brought up my Christian daughter with better values and morals then you have! I brought her up to NOT JUDGE, to accept others and treat them the way she would want to be treated! You are nothing but an overzealous, judgemental, narrow minded bigot! It's so called "christians" like you that give real Christians a bad name! I am not gay, but unlike you....I'm not God either and don't have the right to judge anyone for their choices in life! Get off your high horse, clean your own backyard and don't worry about what others are doing with their life! It's called a CHOICE! I chose not to be ANYTHING like and thank GOD for that!!

Tony_Jolleyd78 said on February 2, 2012 at 2:16 PM

@colesweetpea: What is sick? You know what I think is sick? The fact that people are allowed to brainwash their kids with hateful beliefs from a bronze-age book of stories

plungginalong said on February 2, 2012 at 2:02 PM

@mr_conservative...I'm getting a big pile of rocks for you ready because I know darn good and well your life hasn't been without Sin. Your long over do for a Stoning.

plungginalong said on February 2, 2012 at 1:31 PM

@colesweetpea...Maybe you are sick..Lets see how many young woman under the age of 21 have children out of wedlock? That would be plenty....Lets see how many men cheat on there wives, that would be plenty..Lets see, how many religious leaders have sex with minors that are pedophiles, that would be plenty. ..And very few Gays are Pedophiles because Gays want someone of the same age to live with and have sex with. Pedophiles are mostly all Straight men and throw in a few woman also that like to have sex with under age boys. So thats Sick, if you want to know what Sick is.

JacksonM said on February 2, 2012 at 1:29 PM

colesweetpea, Abject hatred like yours only helps advance the cause you detest. When people see nothing but hatred, without anything of value to back it up, it makes your side look petty and stupid. That is part of why the cause continues to advance, because people are seeing the hatred for what it is, old world, out of touch, and unsubstantiated. So, please, hate on, we thank you for it. It does the other side way more good than you could possible imagine.

JacksonM said on February 2, 2012 at 1:27 PM

Spacedover, that tax works both ways. If the churches want to have their say in laws getting enacted, then the churches should pay tax like any other "business" in this country. As long as they don't pay tax, they have *zero* say in the laws of the land. Cope.

JacksonM said on February 2, 2012 at 1:24 PM

Ruba61, even if you get a referendum on a ballot and it wins, that does not mean it will get enforced. The legality of the referendum will be challenged in court. You cannot put civil rights to a public vote.

JacksonM said on February 2, 2012 at 1:23 PM

Fastreader, the original Pledge of Allegiance did not contain the words "under God". Those two words were added in much much later. The original pledge left it out. Guess you need to learn more history.

franky said on February 2, 2012 at 1:22 PM

colesweetpea - I don't even know you and I threw up thinking about you, how's that for random hate? Oh, but just my opinion.

JacksonM said on February 2, 2012 at 1:21 PM

For those of you using the bible as your guide.... The bible calls for stoning people who have committed adultery. Have you, or one of your family members committed adultery? If so, would you allow yourself, or them, to be stoned for the sake of your religious beliefs? If so, then let me know, and I can have a group there ready to administer the religious ritual. If not, then do not attempt to use the bible on anyone else. You cannot cherry pick when it comes to the bible. All or nothing. So, let us know when you are ready to be stoned to death for your adultery. Until then, shut up about gay marriage. Hypocrites.

colesweetpea said on February 2, 2012 at 1:13 PM

In my opinion they should not be allowed to have children or raise them either. It's all just sick.

spacedover said on February 2, 2012 at 1:10 PM

Let's tax them after all this is the state of Washington. I think we have chance to balance the budget with a new Gay Tax for those who want their rights recognized.

plungginalong said on February 2, 2012 at 1:08 PM

@fastreader...Didn't George Washington sign a big big paper called the Declaration of Independence saying that, All Men Are Created Equal? I could have swore he did..So what part of that don't you understand? I think you don't understand any part of that so don't be saying a darn word about George Washington.

Tony_Jolleyd78 said on February 2, 2012 at 12:59 PM

@mr_conservative: "If any man come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple." -- Jesus in Luke 14:26

plungginalong said on February 2, 2012 at 12:55 PM

@fastreader,,,gays are your children also, how do you think they was born? Yea, they was born from a married or unmarried man and woman. This has nothing to do with children, its about 2 people that want to spend hopefully the rest of there life together. And we don't even say the Pledge of Allegiance anymore in schools because why should we make a Pledge to a Flag. Now if it was worded to say We Pedge Allegiance to this Country that might be a different story. God is not sending anyone to Hell for loving one another. God does send people like you to Hell for judging people although. Because you are not here on this Planet to Judge anyone. Who died and made you Mother Teresa? And Mother Teresa never even judged people. So get over it and move on with your own life and don't worry about anybody elses life.

Tony_Jolleyd78 said on February 2, 2012 at 12:53 PM

@ruba61: So you believe we should vote on all civil rights? Tyranny of the majority for you then, eh? You'd better hope you're always in the majority.

Brian1974 said on February 2, 2012 at 12:46 PM

@fastreader. I suggest you educate yourself on George Washington. His qoute is something like...In no way was this nation founded on Christion Prionciples. You should also maybe check the date on which.."Under God was added to the pledge.

Tony_Jolleyd78 said on February 2, 2012 at 12:45 PM

@fastreader You do realize that the "Under God" part of the pledge was added in 1953 by paranoid people who thought there was a communist under every bed, don't you? You also realize that not everyone follows your Bronze-Age collection of tribal folklore known as The Bible, right? Equating gay marriage with murder is ridiculous. Who is harmed if two men or two women want to marry? Your so-called morality is not true morality. True morality pertains to the well-being of human beings and other sentient creatures. Your morality is might (God) makes right.

mr_conservative said on February 2, 2012 at 12:31 PM

Jesus was never wrong.

fastreader said on February 2, 2012 at 12:29 PM

10-1 odds, I bet that George Washington is not proud to have his likeness on the Washington State Flag today. And what of the Pledge of Allegiance, where it says, "One Nation Under God", do you really think that you are living up to that pledge. What you are doing is an immoral act against God and you're fellow Americans.! "Together we stand and divided we fall." And from some of the comments I"ve read, You gays and lesbians are the children of the antichrist and when the Lord God does come you will recieve your just rewards. And you Politicians are showing no concern for the Moral up-bringing of our children and are not fulfilling your commitment to the General Publlic, to protect us from these immoral applications to the law. I'm sure that a murderer could give you an equally emotional sob story as to his right to having commited a murder, but it would still not make it morally right, or ask any drug dealer about his rights to sell and distribute drugs. Morality!!!!

Loki_ said on February 2, 2012 at 12:27 PM

ruba61, not going to happen. :)

ptjolly said on February 2, 2012 at 12:18 PM

@Mr_Conservative, since you say there are things in the Bible that you don't have to follow, I will repeat the question, why are you so against gay marriage? Why do you believe any of the stories in the Bible? You have no way of knowing which to follow and which to ignore. Please let go of the ancient ideas of morality and live in modern times. We are more moral than the people in the Bible, even Jesus had no problem with slavery and he was wrong.

ruba61 said on February 2, 2012 at 12:17 PM

I can't wait for this to be on the ballot in November so the majority of us can shut this law down once and for all.

zaxxon7469 said on February 2, 2012 at 12:17 PM

Yeah, now you can get back to, I don't know the the sprialling tanking swirling the drain, that is America. Come on, do you need to call a special sesion again to balence the budget, or do you even care.

Loki_ said on February 2, 2012 at 12:09 PM

Nearly 200 comments. Nifty. :D Nice to see how quickly the hate-spewers get buried by supportive, loving people on here.

JacksonM said on February 2, 2012 at 12:01 PM

darks said on February 2, 2012 at 10:45 AM read your Bible, God did destroy the gays in the BIble, Sodom and Gomorrah Gen:18-20 23-26 .Could not be any plainer, they were destroyed in Bible times. How a gay pastor reads this, they must tear this page out of their bible. all said and done. ________ That is *your* bible. This country was founded on religious freedom. That means you don't get to legislate from your religion. Christianity, Shintoism, Buddhism, Judaism, and on and on and on...they all have a place at the table in this country. Just because you *think* you know what *your* religion says, doesn't mean you get to decide for the rest of the nation. This is why we have separation of church and state, so the church can stay the heck out of the laws. If churches want to get involved in politics, PAY TAXES like everyone else does.

JacksonM said on February 2, 2012 at 11:59 AM

For those crying that we already voted on it, that doesn't mean anything. Certain things do not get to be put to a vote legally. I wonder how conservatives would feel if there was a referendum on the ballot that said "Republicans cannot get married in the State of Washington". If that passed, would you go away quietly, saying "well, it's what the voters wanted". Of course you wouldn't, and you know it. So stop with that hypocrisy. Majority does not now, nor has it ever, ruled in the cases of civil rights. By the way, the government in this country was founded in a way that protected the minority from being overrun by the majority. Learn some civics! Gays do not ruin marriage. Heterosexuals have been making a mockery of marriage for YEARS. The marriage vows include "til death do us part". So, I guess every conservative that ever got divorced is going to hell for going against their religion? Funny how you can do it, but cry at others for doing it. Hypocrites!

ankh5 said on February 2, 2012 at 11:55 AM

There's only one true victor in this situation, and let's see, who might that be ---- SATAN???????

brewster said on February 2, 2012 at 11:55 AM

And in other news........................................................................................!

mr_conservative said on February 2, 2012 at 11:51 AM

@ptjolly - As I have stated before, some things in the Bible are things that really happened while others were related to the culture and lifestyle at the time it was written - other things are told to illustrate like a story problem in math. It can be difficult for even a believer to discern. But I'm pretty sure I'm not going to Hell for wearing denim and polyester. And just because Jesus didn't say anything about a subject doesn't mean that God doesn't care about it.

plungginalong said on February 2, 2012 at 11:29 AM

@darks... If Gays were all killed at Sodom and Gormorrah then why are Gays still here on this planet? So is your so called Bible telling you a lie or the truth? So what ever you are reading you can use it for toilet paper.

palinsux said on February 2, 2012 at 11:11 AM

One more step for Washington state to enter the 21st century!

king5fan8817 said on February 2, 2012 at 10:54 AM

How can any person belong to a religion or believe in a God, Santa Claus or whatever, when that God, The Easter Bunny or whatever, doesn't include all peoples. It's a judgemental attitude. What is so hard to understand. Religion only serves the religous when the religious want it to. All religious beliefs and policies change when the followers need it to. U.S. is 80% christian? Possibly 200 years ago, before we were able to question it's tenets. I know it's difficult for people to accept that maybe their beliefs aren't popular anymore, but all Christians see the righting on the wall. The Christian ranks are getting smaller every year and hopefully my grandchildren will not have to have a discussion about how someone saw the baby Jesus's image on their meatlover's pizza

Loki_ said on February 2, 2012 at 10:54 AM

darks: guess your pastor must have torn all those other pages out too, eh? All those tiny little things the bible tells you are good like allowing slavery, rape, and not getting hair cuts. Yeah. Oh, and FFS.

darks said on February 2, 2012 at 10:54 AM

so glad our govornor is leaving office,, she waited all her time in office to sign same sex marriage into law,, took her all this time to do, like one said, when is she getting a divorce to marry same sex,, As for the 4 republican who voted for it, I 'm a republican, I will not vote for them. when election time comes up.. But like one person said, it has nothing to do whether you like the person, it is marriage is and always be between man and woman,. government can't change that.. maybe on paper but not in real life.. That is not judging people they can live togather all they want.no one cares, but to marryy them!!! I will boycott anyplace who support gay marriages, there is enough places out there where you can go that don't.. so that is not a problem at all.

RealOpinion said on February 2, 2012 at 10:52 AM

God also killed babies, children.. innocent men and woman in the OT. Your god is seriously one of a million of them out there. You only believe in that god because of where you are from. Grow up in another part of the world and poof, you believe in that god. The NT is plagerized from pagan religions that predate christianity. Having Jesus be a scapegoat is not moral or ethical because it removes PERSONAL RESPONSIBLY.. which all morals and ethics are based upon.

darks said on February 2, 2012 at 10:45 AM

read your Bible, God did destroy the gays in the BIble, Sodom and Gomorrah Gen:18-20 23-26 .Could not be any plainer, they were destroyed in Bible times. How a gay pastor reads this, they must tear this page out of their bible. all said and done.

vffrwm said on February 2, 2012 at 10:33 AM

What part of NO don't those morons in Olympia understand? The people voted on this and said NO why now is the will of the people over turned by the few that are on the take from the special interest groups like the gay rights crowd? Oh and don't you know those pond scum will have their coffers over flowing next election. Anyone that has been in Olympia over the past 4 years is a part of the problem and not a part of the solution. Next election if you have been there my wife and I are going to work hard to make sure you don't go back. Oh and it's truely bi-partisan. Democrats or Republicans you are all equally at fault.

ptjolly said on February 2, 2012 at 10:29 AM

@Mr.Conservative, only surpassed by yours and your argument and reasoning amaze me. If you think I am wrong in my knowledge of the Bible, then prove it. What I pointed out were only a few of the problems with the Bible, there are many more. Where is your god in this argument? If he doesn't want gay marriage let him tell me himself or accept that there are no gods or demons. Jesus never mentioned homosexuals so what is your problem with gay marriage?

duanesworld said on February 2, 2012 at 10:21 AM

Let's be clear. The Christians have set up the perfect anti-business scheme, that has stood the test of time. IF you desire sex hetro sex, you must be married. That supports local business. And effectively put prostitution out of business. Trying to skirt this premise, m/m or f/f meets the same resistance. And of course it is all cloaked in religious mumble-jumbo, keeping the crowds in line by threatening them with the Wrath of God if they don't toe the line. That's why we need to legalize prostitution, so that everyone has an opportunity for a "happy ending."

fwkc63 said on February 2, 2012 at 10:19 AM

The God that I know, does not judge or throw stones against anyone no matter who they chose as their partner in life! My motto is....Live and Let Live, PERIOD!! Nobody has the right to tell anyone who they should date. Clean your own house people and leave the gay community alone! I am not gay, but have friends and family that are. They are wonderful law abiding citizens and deserve the same respect and rights as the rest of us!!!

Mytake said on February 2, 2012 at 10:19 AM

hey Ahab,, I me tootoo, still on your hunt for tradition????

shmigoli said on February 2, 2012 at 10:00 AM

I never thought such a disappointing day would come for us, I don't have a problem with gays (the people they are not what they do) but giving them the right for marriage is just wrong.

ThursdayFae said on February 2, 2012 at 9:51 AM

@Gregory7: First of all, *Mount Si* is in North Bend. *Mount SiNAI* is somewhere in the middle east. And Mosses [sic] probably grow on both. @vffrwm: Can you not possibly think that the voter opinion changes over the years? 70 years ago, most people (most people that voted anyway) thought that inter-racial relationships were wrong. Now, most people (most voters) if asked would vote FOR legalizing interracial relations. Time passes, kids grow up, people come, people go, and the demographic changes. Ergo, it's the government's job to check in periodically and change with the people. I didn't live in WA in 1998 when the first vote against marriage equality passed. (I wasn't even old enough to vote). But now I'm here, old enough to vote, and am casting my ballot in favour of marriage equality. Demographics and opinions change, and the laws must change with them.

mr_conservative said on February 2, 2012 at 9:45 AM

@ptjolly - Your lack of biblical knowledge is staggering.

hourforum said on February 2, 2012 at 9:31 AM

It would be intresting to see a cartoon with the caption that reads " Children, your mother and I are going to get a divorce because the neighbors are gay-and have sex in their bedroom, so our marriage is being threatened". Imagine that! Well, some of these people live in a cartoon world-it is time to get into reality, and understand that equality means just what it is... being equal.

poedoldman said on February 2, 2012 at 9:24 AM

Can we please stop bringing up make believe individuals in human discussions (god). If you must, why not give your opinion on what Santa or the easter bunny might think about the issue. Just as valid and just as phony. Made up by men wanting to control others, that is all god is and ever was.

marydi said on February 2, 2012 at 9:18 AM

Having been among the many attending the senate hearings yesterday, I am deeply grateful to the men and women senators for open dialogue and debate. Being here in this great moment in history when love is honored and when persons are given the right to marry the person they love is a dream come true. Marriage is only bigger now - more than it was. It has expanded!

RDexter said on February 2, 2012 at 9:09 AM

It angers me to see people clamoring for their "right" to deny their fellow citizens equal treatment by the government. No one is hurt when consenting partners of the same sex can get married, but plenty of people are hurt when they're given second class status simply for being something the majority, or a vocal minority, finds distasteful. If you think your god disapproves, then it was on your god to appear before the senate and state his case in a direct, uncryptic fashion. (He might have included an explanation of why a deity should have any say in a secular government.) Unsurprisingly, this never happens. Oh, I know, it's a matter of "choice" or "free will" or some other convenient excuse. But if that's true, then you lot need to take a lesson from your god's example and let people follow their own consciences.

tootoo said on February 2, 2012 at 9:05 AM

@ptjolly Not all Christians are hypocrites, but unfortunately the hypocrites are the most vocal.

ptjolly said on February 2, 2012 at 8:34 AM

Are all Christians hypocrites or just most of them? Christians don't follow the other laws in the Bible so why is the one about homosexuality so important? Is it because you have homosexual thoughts? Are you tempted? Do you support killing women who aren't virgins on their wedding night? How about killing disobedient children? Do you never wear a cotton/poly blend, it is after all, an abomination? Throw out your crazy morals you got from a bunch of bronze age goatherders. They were also in favor of slavery, are you?

gizmo1 said on February 2, 2012 at 8:28 AM

Gregory7...THANK YOU for standing up and letting your voice be heard! I too CAN'T WAIT UNTIL QUEEN GREGOIRE IS OUT OF OFFICE!!! This state is not only flat broke, now it's legalizing everything that God and the principles of our founding fathers built our country on. God help us on judgement day!

gizmo1 said on February 2, 2012 at 8:23 AM

shades7...I assure you that God isn't OK with gay marriage. He did give us a free will to choose, but unfortunately, we don't always choose the right things. Those of us who see this know that we also don't have the right to judge. Only God will do that in His own way and time.

andyblue555 said on February 2, 2012 at 8:17 AM

Gay Marriage is here and there aint nothing you can do about. Nothing others than whine on news blogs that is.

gizmo1 said on February 2, 2012 at 8:16 AM

mr_conservative...THANK YOU! This is an act of man, not an act of God.

andyblue555 said on February 2, 2012 at 8:15 AM

uh Mr conservative lashing out in anger as usual.. Gotta love the religious people and their pushing hatred while hiding behind anonymous screen names. Your tears are so sweet and make this whole ordeal even more enjoyable.

mr_conservative said on February 2, 2012 at 7:48 AM

Just because states that allow Sodomite marriage haven't been wiped from the face of the earth (yet) doesn't mean that God is OK with the whole deal. Judgement will come to this land, and it won't be pretty.

jpalla said on February 2, 2012 at 7:44 AM

I do not support this action and our elected will feel it this upcoming election. and this is why I feel so. 1. A man and a Man connot have a baby naturally togeather. 2 a Woman and Woman Cannot have a baby Naturally togeather. Only a Man and woman can barring Medical problems It is natures way of reproducting naturally it is the way we are made.

gritz said on February 2, 2012 at 7:42 AM

Loki_ Wow, you’re a little strange. You actually look up people on the forums. Why? That’s a little freighting knowing that there are people like you who go so far out of their way to hunt people's real identity. Are you a stalker?

shades7 said on February 2, 2012 at 7:28 AM

Iowa allowed gay marriage and now it is a big smoking hole in the ground due to God's wrath. What's that you say? Iowa is still there? That's right. Iowa is still there and it is still heaven. Either God's smiting finger is broken or God is just fine with gay marriage. I was against gay marriage until I realized I didn't have to have one. So get a life and get your nose out of other people's business. Do you want the government to tell you what to do or don't you?

Rattler said on February 2, 2012 at 6:45 AM

Distraction. The broomstick maid wanted to divert attention from the downgrade of Moody's credit rating for the state which spends too much. Not a big issue .. who cares? Really. If it comes up for a vote, as a referendum I will support repeal.. but not waste the time or money to participate in the repeal. If it's conveniently on the ballot I will caste the vote.

tootoo said on February 2, 2012 at 6:38 AM

This is fantastic news, nice job Washington! And to all you anti-American bigots, this will probably be on the ballot in November, and it will fail. Most of Washington is not a bunch of hateful hypocrites like you Eastern Washingtonians.

dhnrs said on February 2, 2012 at 6:14 AM

Oh yippee just what is needed another protected class

mr_conservative said on February 2, 2012 at 5:58 AM

The four Republicans who voted in favor of this travesty should be removed from office at the soonest opportunity. Sexual perversion is not a plank of the Republican platform. Meanwhile, the state continues to sink into the toilet and all the legislators can do is devote their efforts to legitimizing homosexuality. Sad...

camanoresident said on February 2, 2012 at 5:45 AM

How soon is Christine Gregiore getting her divrorce so she can partiipate in her new life?

vffrwm said on February 2, 2012 at 5:35 AM

It's not religion, it's not morality, it's the fact that the voters of this state have already said NO. So it's no. So here we go again, lets spend more money to put it back on the ballot so the voters will gain say NO. Then the legislature, because of their need for re-election money will pass it again and on and on and on. The people have said no, that should make it the law of the land.

skippypotpiebaby said on February 2, 2012 at 5:34 AM

Let the VOTERS make the call NOT the state

Gregory7 said on February 2, 2012 at 1:13 AM

Christine Gregiore has made my home and millions of others very unsafe, and is destroying Washington with her evil ways. I am just hoping and praying that all these ungodly laws being made today will in the future get reversed, Washington gets washed and purified and becomes great again, for now we just have to tolerate the evil ones thanks to Ms. Christine Gregiore's ways! May God keep us safe in Washington State - Amen / Om

Gregory7 said on February 2, 2012 at 1:07 AM

I will stand by the laws of Nature and God! I will never acknowledge such a law that breaks natural laws and defies God! As Mosses once said on mount Si when receiving the tablets Ten Commandments from God: "Those who shall not live by God's laws shall die by God's laws!" Jesus says during his crucifixtion -> both hands and feet nailed to a wooden cross while in his last moments: "Please my father who art in heaven, please forgive these humans for they know not what they are doing!" I pray that God has mercy upon all our souls in the State of Washington, for we truly do not know what we are doing!" I have told you all before to bring back the land of Sodom and Gamoura is to sign your death warrant and to parish forever! I am now very upset that my home may be wrecked, my person may get violated and sex crimes are going to go wild with no end in sight. All I can do is chant Hare Krishna, Hare Rama, Maha Mantra, be the best devotee possible and hope for the best. The End! Greg.

cantora said on February 2, 2012 at 12:24 AM

Outstanding news tonight in the fight for civil rights, couldn't be more proud of our lawmakers!!!

Loki_ said on February 2, 2012 at 12:18 AM

On the other hand, I seem to have an instant intellectual crush on Andyblue555.

Loki_ said on February 2, 2012 at 12:15 AM

beanman24: Bye! :D

Loki_ said on February 2, 2012 at 12:12 AM

Dakotanative: facebook.com/profile.php?id=529747715 Compensating for your small attributes I suppose. Tsk tsk, perhaps you shouldn't use the same username everywhere? I can assure you that most of "my kind" are very passive and lenient. I, however, am not. :)

beanman24 said on February 2, 2012 at 12:10 AM

We're so progressive in Washington... Progressively bad. I'm moving.

Loki_ said on February 2, 2012 at 12:04 AM

Hurrr durrrr yussssssss i can gut marries now so have kiddies and animals in bed and bathrooms yusssssss. WTF people, srsly?? O_o
Are you so idiotic that you believe such things? Cool.

andyblue555 said on February 1, 2012 at 11:24 PM

treeclimber what is it with your obsession with men's restrooms?

treeclimber said on February 1, 2012 at 11:20 PM

does this mean they will open the captial park bathroom up to the senators,so they can start meeting one another in park bathroom again. any senator that voted for this law needs a labotamy..

emptynestr said on February 1, 2012 at 10:33 PM

Looks like the tail wagging the dog here.

omgbuxy said on February 1, 2012 at 10:22 PM

@dakotanative, child molestation isn't about orientation, it's about predation. Ask most child molesters how they identify and they would say heterosexual. So that's two things you have in common with them. 1)This urge to prey on what you perceive as as weak and 2)your orientation. I'm not saying you're a baby rapist, or that all heterosexuals are baby rapists. And while your idiotic ramblings aren't as disgusting as preying on children is, I have to say you seem to think/talk about preying on children more than anyone I know and I know a lot of gay people. BUT getting back to the real point at hand, this law doesn't legalize preying on children for sexual gratification so you're out of luck (if that's you personal angle) and also making no sense in this discussion again.

Loki_ said on February 1, 2012 at 10:12 PM

dakotanative, you're just a few cards short of a full deck. ANYONE, as a business owner, can refuse service to anyone else. How can you be old enough to be up past 10pm and not know this? Fargo is missing you, please move back there. Words you type sense make not.

andyblue555 said on February 1, 2012 at 10:11 PM

nathionk funny how all those heteros in prison can't seem to keep their hands off each other. By their logic All straight men must be bisexual .

andyblue555 said on February 1, 2012 at 10:08 PM

dakotanative the majority of all child molestation's are committed by straight men. My goodness what a sick bunch they ALL must be right?

savvydude2003 said on February 1, 2012 at 10:07 PM

Trying to be a good Christian keeps me too busy to point my finger at others and say "You sinner" We all have a gift from God and that gift is Free Agency. We are not forced to follow God's will. I try very hard to follow what Jesus has said: Mark 11:26 26 But if ye do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses. Luke 6:42 42 Either how canst thou say to thy brother, Brother, let me pull out the mote that is in thine eye, when thou thyself beholdest not the beam that is in thine own eye? Thou hypocrite, cast out first the beam out of thine own eye, and then shalt thou see clearly to pull out the mote that is in thy brother’s eye. But a word of warning: Corinthians Chapter 6 9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not binherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind Nor abusers of themselves with mankind relates to the issue at hand.

dakotanative said on February 1, 2012 at 10:06 PM

Yes nathionk, but 100% of the men on boy rapes are gay activities.

nathionk said on February 1, 2012 at 9:58 PM

Why do people even oppose it? It does not effect their life style in any way. Who cares who their neighbors love. And about the whole inter-species things being shouted by bible thumping idiots, grow up, seriously. As a gay man, i can safely say that the only ones who practice things like that are the serial killers who land themselves in jail. Oh did you know most of them are heterosexual? Most gays are afraid of jail. Lol.

andyblue555 said on February 1, 2012 at 9:49 PM

dakotanative that is just plain stupidity. I could go on but your comment gives me the impression that it would be pointless and a waste of my time. Maybe watching an afterschool special about the way we should treat others would help.

omgbuxy said on February 1, 2012 at 9:46 PM

@dakotanative, that has nothing to do with this piece of legislation. if I walked into your store and you refused to do business with me because of some racial/ethnic/gender/orientation discrimination you have, in this state you would be breaking laws that we already have on the books. This bill doesn't change that so I'm not sure why you are talking about how your right to practice discrimination against customers is being affected, because you don't have the right. And again, this bill doesn't change that.

dakotanative said on February 1, 2012 at 9:44 PM

They can join those who fought having sex with children. They can join those that fought sex with sheep.....

andyblue555 said on February 1, 2012 at 9:44 PM

kramseyer i disagree. I am sorry that do do not understand the difference between civil marriage and church sanctioned religious marriage. I don't believe you care about a word and the entire argument is ridiculous and childish. It doesn't make sense. The only explanation is that it is nothing more then opinion about who gay people are which is a learned behavior. Bigotry is a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices, especially one exhibiting intolerance, and animosity.

andyblue555 said on February 1, 2012 at 9:41 PM

Happy Days Are Here Again.. na na na i don't know the words. But Woo HOOO!! This a a great day in history but it is also a day that mirrors many historic events in BIGOT history too. They can now join their brothers of bigotry past. They can join those who fought to keep slavery...and lost They can join those who fought to deny blacks the right to vote They cant join those who fought women getting the right to vote...they lost They can join those who fought interracial marriage.... they lost At least right now In Washington State they can. Losers past. Losers present. But hey we are evolving and the Future looks promising. On a side note has anyone else noticed that the majority of all religious groups have been on the wrong side every time? Rethink religion people. If they are pushing disdain for anyone then they really aren't who they claim to be.

dakotanative said on February 1, 2012 at 9:40 PM

@omgbuxy, people ARE shoving your beliefs down the throats of people that don't believe what the gays are doing is right. As a photographer, I cannot refuse to do your wedding pictures. As a restraunt owner, I cannot refuse to do your banquet. As a jeweler, I am required to provide you with rings. As a business owner, it is in my best interest to take whatever business I can, but do you think I would get anywhere if I complained because the Muslim chef refused to serve pork?

swatguy said on February 1, 2012 at 9:40 PM

This bill is like stacking deck chairs on the Titanic...is this really the most important issue to the majority of Washingtonians?????

omgbuxy said on February 1, 2012 at 9:25 PM

@kramseyer, I'm sure should your friend's current or future partner end up in the hospital without the ability to visit them or inform doctors of decisions they've made together as a family that can't legally define itself as a family, your friend will then be grateful for all the loving christians who support them as human beings, but did not support them in their efforts to create legal secular ties to each other. /end sarcasm/ no one is asking to get married in your church, or asking you to perform a ceremony. unfortunately though we will have to ask you whether you will let OUR government give us these secular rights. I don't understand why people trying to take care of the people they care for is such a contested issue.

jennyjams said on February 1, 2012 at 9:24 PM

How can something as beautiful as love ever be construed as "wrong" or "ugly'? I don't understand this.

quidproquote said on February 1, 2012 at 9:11 PM

I am grinning so much my face is starting to tense up! This is so exciting!

jennyjams said on February 1, 2012 at 9:09 PM

It is sick that people in think like that. Comparing love with an animal to love with a human being. Why would you even think of baby raping? You'd have to have a sick mind to come up with that to compare to. Can't people just be civil adults about this matter, instead of insulting each other because of who you love? No need to post crude comments.

kramseyer said on February 1, 2012 at 9:09 PM

Notaboutme, I am on the same page with you. My personal beliefs on same sex marriage doesn't hinder my friendship with one of my closest friends (who happens to be gay). Many think that because some of us Christians are against same sex marriage we must be hate filled and disgusted with homosexuals. Not true.

Loki_ said on February 1, 2012 at 9:02 PM

(ergh, mad typos, sorry)

aziza said on February 1, 2012 at 9:02 PM

I propose that we start taxing religious institutions! They want to use government to thump their bigoted bibles? Then they should be forced to pay taxes like the rest of us. No more exemption!!

Notaboutme said on February 1, 2012 at 9:01 PM

@emptynstr - I'm really not sure what you're getting at through everything your saying. I keep reading your posts thinking your getting to a point about the topic at hand but you keep going on about God. I believe I understand your point of view because I myself am a Christ loving man and believe that we are ALL equal in Gods eyes. We have all sinned in one way or another and fall short of the glory of God. That being said, I don't look at anyone who is gay as a "bad" person or anything. I will firmly say that I don't agree with marrying someone of the same sex simply because I don't believe God made us to marry the same sex. If one plans on having kids and to raise them in a healthy family, it has been proven that have a man in a women is the best balance to nurture a child. This is what I think and believe. Everyone has their own opinion and being a Christian...I'm not going to judge anyone. I'm just simply stating my thoughts on the topic.

1patriot said on February 1, 2012 at 9:00 PM

2000 years of traditions down the drain because of some liberals and liberal bench judges.

dakotanative said on February 1, 2012 at 8:58 PM

I don't think people would care if it WAS equal rights. When is the straight pride parade? What month is white history month? Friday is women get in free at the Seattle boat show. What day do black men get in free? What happens if I name my bar the Straight Bar?

hawihi said on February 1, 2012 at 8:58 PM

Looks to me like just a matter of time and a man and his favorite Ewe, or a woman and her favorite Pony will be able to "be legal". Ah, such bliss! How long now before baby rape and buggering little boys is legal. If we are not close to the end of the world, we should be!

josh_iii said on February 1, 2012 at 8:49 PM

What a bunch of bible thumping bigots. I hope all of you move out of state, and go crawl back under your rocks. So much for the church teaching love and tolerance of others. Live and let live people. They aren't hurting you or anyone else. If two people are in love, they should be allowed to marry and be entitled to all of the same benefits everyone else enjoys, regardless of race, sexual orientation, or RELIGIOUS beliefs. Maybe we should start taking away civil rights of you bible thumpers, and see how you like it.

dakotanative said on February 1, 2012 at 8:40 PM

Also proud of the direction we are going. In the direction of having it voted down by the people.

coffeeinseattle said on February 1, 2012 at 8:38 PM

@emptynstr - How is your world going to be any different tomorrow than it is today? And about Bible disapproving divorces, would you rather stay with an abusive and violent person (man or woman) than go your separate ways? Aren't you being selfish by denying gays the same rights and recognition as you? Did you put others first before labeling them as sinners threatening "your" way of life?

jennyjams said on February 1, 2012 at 8:38 PM

@treeclimber LOL you are disgusting. People are just finally getting their EQUAL rights. Rights that we should of had, and not had to fight to get to begin with. This shouldn't even be something that we're just now voting on. It should of been taken care of years and years ago. Years ago other ethnic groups weren't allowed in certain places. There were places for white individuals, and places for black individuals. Nowadays it's nearly the same idea! Straight people get the amazing privilege of getting to marry and profess their love to the amazing, special person in their life. Gays get "civil unions," not nearly the same thing. A ripoff version if you will. A small glimpse into the rights that we SHOULD already have. Every single citizen. We formed this country long ago with the idea that we wouldn't force our citizens to be a certain way. Separation of church and state. Whatever happened to that? You are close minded. And mentioning children like that? You're sick.

jennyjams said on February 1, 2012 at 8:31 PM

Love is love. Why would you deprive someone from loving someone else? All you're doing is spreading hate, putting hate into the minds of others. Go up to someone who's in love (someone who is gay/lesbian/bi/ect) and tell them they can't love someone, that they're nothing, that they are not able to have the same rights as everyone else... tell me how you feel when you see them cry because YOU broke their soul, dreams, and heart. Will that make you feel better? I don't care if you don't believe in same sex couples/marriage, but could you destroy someones dreams? I wish the tables were turned, so that anyone against it now would know how it felt to have someone tell you that you can't marry the person you love. Except we would want equality for everyone.. unlike now.

loulilou said on February 1, 2012 at 8:30 PM

I'm not really sure how to feel about this, but t1970 had a great comment. Thank-you for putting things into prospective. Your words are much appreciated.

nathionk said on February 1, 2012 at 8:24 PM

Jeez whats next, they get the right to vote? Grow up people. Stop blaming gay people for being gay, blame yourselves for making gay babies, nonetheless god for making them that way. If he didn't like them, why would he make them? Oh yeah, i went there. There's something called Seperation of church and state. What happened to it?

humevo said on February 1, 2012 at 8:22 PM

relax, the world is not going to end by allowing people different than yourself to enjoy the same civil rights that most of us take for granted.

gritz said on February 1, 2012 at 8:21 PM

emptynestr - Nobody is shussing you. You can say and do what you want. Nobody is telling you what to believe or where and when you go to Church. In fact, I doubt you will notice anything different today, as you will next week. Sad part is, you seem to divide people up when you say things like "you people" or "us or them". Everyone is the same, why someone is attracted to someone else is beyond my mere mortal reasoning. I guess it's all in Gods plan, since he did create us all. By your name I take it you have married, had children and watched them grow up and leave. You are happy with the fact that they have matured and have the choice to be and do whatever they want to do. My question is, why would you deny that same for other parents and their young adults? I use to be like you too, but I have figured out that life is hard enough just trying to make it day to day. I nolonger have the time or energy to hate without understanding. To think that I am better than anyone else.

evets2010 said on February 1, 2012 at 8:17 PM

emptynestr: You really need to crawl back under your rock. 73% of high school and colllege students think gay marriage is a-okay. You are in an ever shrinking minority of small minded people, all of whom thought the exact same thing when MLK was liberating black folks, and again when inter-racial marriage was made legal in America. The pendulum is absolutely swinging in the right direction, and I'm grateful to be on board.

Erin_Strozyk374 said on February 1, 2012 at 8:16 PM

Congrats! It only makes sense that if we had voted in 2009 to be an "all but" state that we transition to an all or nothing state!

evets2010 said on February 1, 2012 at 8:10 PM

Based on the right wing paranoid religo-crit posts I'm seeing here, I am more in favor of gay marriage than ever. This is truly a remarkable time to be living in Washington state. So proud of the direction we are going.

willyboy said on February 1, 2012 at 8:09 PM

Religious nut jobs, nuf said !

wmdkitty said on February 1, 2012 at 8:04 PM

*happy dance*

emptynestr said on February 1, 2012 at 7:56 PM

You people may THINK it doesn't affect anybody but yourselves, but the fact of the matter is we are ALL a part of society and society suffers as a result of your selfish choices in higher taxes to pay for your choices such as health care and in broken hearts that may never be really mended. And the pain of your selfishness DOES affect the majority of society in being FORCED to accept your lifestyle in business, church, and other entities. You refuse to accept our views and shush us up so that we can't say what our Bible teachs even in our own churches BECAUSE it "might hurt your feelings" . Truth is still truth and shushing us up won't change it. It is SICK. You people are never going to quit til you get your way at the expense of all the rest of society and then we ALL go down the sewer together. . It doesn't mean I don't care about YOU as a person. Sin is sIn with the big "I" in the center. We can only have a cohesive society when we put others first.

Loki_ said on February 1, 2012 at 7:51 PM

Oh quit. This is a human rights debate, not a religious one.

emptynestr said on February 1, 2012 at 7:34 PM

I'm sorry for you folks who think that the Bible is full of myths and fairy tales but it has been backed up by archeology and science as well. The reason you don't understand it is because it is spiritually discerned and the things of God are foolishness to those who don't believe. But to those of us who do believe it is The Way, the TRUTH, and the LIFE. People's hearts are hard and therefore they have already been given over to their sinful ways. All we have to do is look around and see the consequences of the choices of those who do not take God's word seriously. Divorces (yes, even among those who CLAIM to be Christians), immorality, and violence, the higher cost of everything that is a result of having to do FOR people what they refuse to do for themselves. You can justify your choices and behavior all you want but ultimately we ALL will be held accountable for our choices either for good or for bad. Even if man doesn't catch you, God sees into each mans heart.

javajoe said on February 1, 2012 at 7:34 PM

God have mercy on us.

subaru said on February 1, 2012 at 7:12 PM

is this important now?

dakotanative said on February 1, 2012 at 6:46 PM

Many of the companies on the list are primarily supported by the gay sympathizers, so supporting the bill is in their best interest. Other companies like American FAMILY Insurance, that has already indicated that they intend to male drastic rate increases in the next few months, have a lot to lose. I was already shopping around before they endorsed the bill, so it will be easy to switch.

collentine1 said on February 1, 2012 at 6:46 PM

Now gays can have ALL the benefits they are not entitled to. What a sad state of affairs.

tootoo said on February 1, 2012 at 6:21 PM

@ruba61 If you can get written consent from the cat, along with proving that it's a human being, with basic human rights, then I don't see what's stopping you.

mr_conservative said on February 1, 2012 at 6:20 PM

Looks like the perverts are winning.

Loki_ said on February 1, 2012 at 5:12 PM

ruba61, as much as I find your comment humourous, same gender relationships aren't the same as inter-species relations.

ruba61 said on February 1, 2012 at 4:58 PM

Can i marry my cat now??? We can't procreate either and i know he loves me!!

Loki_ said on February 1, 2012 at 4:57 PM

whatsyurbeef: You win.

Loki_ said on February 1, 2012 at 4:47 PM

Ankh5 , well said. There were many cultures accepting of couples and families that don't fit the modern Christian ideal. We're just chipping away, slowly, at some of the damage done by thousands of missionaries hundreds of years ago.

andyblue555 said on February 1, 2012 at 4:45 PM

famofeds look up when the catholic church BANNED using the term marriage because it was a Pagan term. They banned Christmas too. Do you ever have a Christmas tree? Again PAGAN. If you believe that book of 2000 year old fairy tales is law and think it justifies expressing such ignorant based disdain for any group then I feel sorry for you. Your misuse the bible will no longer be tolerated by the majority of Americans with common sense.

whatsyurbeef said on February 1, 2012 at 4:45 PM

Loki I could almost agree with you... almost, when you find fault with my style of dress that's where I draw the line... You never saw a guy look so good in a salmon pink 70's leisure suit with matching wide brimmed hat..... it goes real good with my 62 caddy and the pink and purple tuck and roll with dice hanging from the mirror.

ankh5 said on February 1, 2012 at 4:39 PM

@famofeds As a matter of fact, people got married long before there were any Christians around poking their noses in our business much like the government does. Christians have co-opted much from the pagan religions and ceremonies. The world didn't begin because someone decided to start a religion as followers of Jesus.

Loki_ said on February 1, 2012 at 4:30 PM

whatsyurbeef, personally I tire of seeing hetero couples of all ages slobbering all over each other in public and soon becoming overwhelmed with babies. But hey, I guess that's normal and I can't find that "repulsive". I'd probably find your taste in clothing "repuslive" but you get to wear whatever you want and most likely be married to the person you want. This is not the 19th century, and there are far fewer of your mindset than you seem to think. Hate just isn't cool.

famofeds said on February 1, 2012 at 4:12 PM

@andyblue555: Yes, as a matter of fact, I have heard of a justice of the peace. Yes, they can perform marriages. Thank you for that clarification. My questions to you are: How in the world did anyone ever get married before the implimentation of the JP? What is the oldest and most world-wide recognized standard for performing a marriage ceremony? To answer your question: Yes, I do believe that the Bible is law. It is also history, poetry, biographical, and prophetic mixed with aha moments followed by a few humorous characters.

t1970 said on February 1, 2012 at 3:59 PM

I am all for Gays and Lesbians to be married. Who are you to tell us who to love? Who are you to judge us? We are all one color – (do we not bleed red?), we are all human with basic needs, wants and desires just like you. We put our pants on one leg at a time just like you. Interesting enough as you all have thrown God and religion into this topic – God made us this way. It’s not like we woke up one day and chosen to be gay, lesbian, transgender or a straight person. All we are asking for is to have the same basic human protective rights as a man and woman would have. We are not asking for special privileges – just the right to be married. I too pay taxes, own my own home and land, raised 1 biological child, 1 mentally challenged nephew and 8 foster sons. I am active member of a Catholic Church…so on so forth…. NEWS FLASH: We maybe your neighbors….Get a grip people! Let’s just pass this Bill and get on with our lives. There are far more and better things to argue about-

chuckstr76 said on February 1, 2012 at 3:46 PM

I wish our law makers would put this much effort into something worth while like fixing the economy or helping the homeless. I wonder what percent of the population this will actually effect.

andyblue555 said on February 1, 2012 at 3:40 PM

look at the 6 percent that are stamping their feet and voting that they will never by the products of companies that support equal rights. That alone gives me great pleasure. Hope they aren't using windows programs while feverishly rushing to make their votes. And the list is growing. . Do they realize that Apple supports equal rights too. throw your computers out people. Imagine them printing out the complete list of businesses they will avoid the rest of their lives based on nothing more than hatred. Classy people.

whatsyurbeef said on February 1, 2012 at 3:36 PM

Leave Religion out of the mix and I'll tell ya sports fans tens of millions of people still see the life style as repulsive and sickening... You may not like it but that's the way it is..

kboard306 said on February 1, 2012 at 3:32 PM

As I age, I guess I have become more tolerant of people and what they wish to do in their private lives, and if Gay's want to get married, who am I to stop them, whether I agree or disagree. What I do have a problem with though, is the fact that our state legislature has devoted so much time and attention to this and done nothing else to balance a budget or the things necessary to keep our state above water. This seems to me to be a thing that could have been put off for other more important issues the state is facing. Why would our governor put this before the legislature when we are having trouble funding public schools, public safety, and roads. Is it that that important to push it through as a high priority? It gives the appearence of another self serving piece of legislation to a small group of people, than to legislate for the good of the majority. Again, I don't care if Gays and Lesbians get married, I just think there were/are more important issues that face the state.

andyblue555 said on February 1, 2012 at 3:32 PM

famofeds and invald. You are FACTUALLY wrong. Have either of you ever heard of a justice of the peace? What about a marriage licence? Any religious loon can perform a marriage ceremony but until it is registered with the state it is not valid. The ignorance displayed on this news story by the comments is incredible. Do you thing the bible is law too?

andyblue555 said on February 1, 2012 at 3:10 PM

GREAT NEWS!!! It is amazing how many people do not even know the difference between civil marriage and church sanctioned religious marriage. I think they are just desperate to push their hatred on anyone and they are running out of victims as those with common sense across America are no longer letting them get away with it.

invalid said on February 1, 2012 at 2:44 PM

I have to say I'm with @famofeds on this. If the state weren't busy meddling in our private affairs (and how many times have we heard it said that the state shouldn't be invading our private lives?), we wouldn't be having this argument.

famofeds said on February 1, 2012 at 2:29 PM

I am a Bible believing, door-knocking, foot-stomping, prayer using Christian. It amazes me that people argue over marriage and the States rulings thereof. Marriage has been around much longer than Washington State Sentate, Representatives, or its people. The only reason that the government ever became interested in marriage was when it discovered that there was a profit in it. I have many rights in this country. The Constution offers me all of them. In amongst all those rights, marriage is not one of them. Marriage is a religious right/rite. That is why preachers, pastors, priests, rabbi, and so on are the ones that are allowed "by the power vested in me" to pronounce two people married. When the State gets out of the marriage business, then it can stop worrying who marries whom.

tootoo said on February 1, 2012 at 2:25 PM

@c8lsonics I think you're wrong. Not everyone in Washington is as bigoted in you...just King5 commenters.

nickc said on February 1, 2012 at 1:40 PM

I think gays are a little weird, but the US Constution gives every one the right to "Life, Liberity and the persute of Happynes"' and if two gays won't to Marri then as long as they can find someone willing to marri them then no state, or person has the right to tell them no, and if they do then they are violating those people's sivel rights.

c8lsonics said on February 1, 2012 at 1:24 PM

I'm not worried. This will be overturned by a vote of the people.

kewfly said on February 1, 2012 at 1:23 PM

Our "Founding Fathers" that people mistakingly believe were religious Baptists need to get a clue! The majority of them were AGAINST organized religion and wanted nothing to do with the church! As much as that may pain you, all the prayer in the world won't change it! Let's take religion out of the marriage game altogether! The state should only recognize civil unions for tax and all other purposes. Marriage takes place in a church and has no place in government. Allow all marriages to turn to civil unions and then treat everyone equally with those.

mellybelly323 said on February 1, 2012 at 1:21 PM

@19mile - I'm not naive, but I thank you for your assumtion. Most of those civil lawsuits are in regards to churches denying their grounds to marry gay couples. If you rent your establishment out for events, then you need to be prepared for some legal issues should you decide to not be equal to everyone. However, no one is forcing an actual memeber of the church, in the name of that church, to marry these couples.

pharmguy said on February 1, 2012 at 1:19 PM

I find the poll on the website very amusing. Some people voted that they will never buy the products of those companies supporting this bill ever again. Good luck avoiding all Microsoft and Starbucks products. Amazing how some people act but I guess all are entitled to their own opinion.

19mile said on February 1, 2012 at 12:56 PM

David_Reed638 If I can vote however I want, then i hope we both get to vote on this one. 1st, thanks for not be the usual angry liberal on your posts. I sincerely do appreciate it. We find ourselves on different sides of this topic both not to be swayed, thanks for respectful debate.

wazzujon said on February 1, 2012 at 12:50 PM

Gizmo1: THIS COUNTRY WAS NOT FOUNDED ON RELIGION, it was founded by a bunch of immigrants from asia THOUSANDS of years ago, then the Europeans colonized it for profit. Several groups of people came here to escape religious persecution. You keep mentioning GOD, but what God, Theres alot of religions and gods out there. So if you want to be literal, then why arent you a Puritan, werent they the first group of religious settlers, but now its also coming out that the Vikings settled here first and they believed in MANY Gods.

gizmo1 said on February 1, 2012 at 12:45 PM

It never ceases to amaze me how many people slam the Bible, or God, as well as those who believe in both, when issues like this come up. I would like to remind you that like it or not, THIS COUNTRY THAT YOU LIVE IN WAS FOUNDED AND BUILT ON THOSE VERY PRINCIPLES!! Every president is sworn in with his hand on a Bible for a reason. Our currency has "In God We Trust" on the back for a reason. Our Pledge of Allegence contains "One Nation Under God" for a reason. Every July 4th, we celebrate our independence with song lyrics such as "God Bless America", "God Shed His Grace On Thee", and the list goes on. So if you don't like these facts, maybe you should stop spending our currency, continue to work on a day where we celebrate God and our freedom, and YES, respect the institution of marriage as it was meant to be: a man and a woman! You can continue to live as you choose, but DON'T slam God or the Bible, because that is what we're built on!

excoastie said on February 1, 2012 at 12:43 PM

Our State continues to ignore our voice and our votes. They have forgotten who put them in office. Remind them by voting them out.

David_Reed638 said on February 1, 2012 at 12:41 PM

19mile - did I not say you can believe whatever you want? You can also vote whatever way you want as well. No one is stopping you from believing anything you want to believe in. But yes, there is a cadre of religious do-gooders who are trying ad naseum to impose their brand of morality on the rest of us. Not only have the waged war against GLBT people, but also against women in passing and trying to pass laws to control a woman's uterus. I'm afraid they won't be happy until we are living in a theocracy, or at least have a Taliban or Sharia system of laws.

tootoo said on February 1, 2012 at 12:39 PM

@doug276614834154 I can show you in the Rigveda that there's nothing against homosexuality. Oh wait, you don't approve of the Rigveda as a basis for laws? Funny, because I don't approve of the bible as a basis for laws.

wazzujon said on February 1, 2012 at 12:39 PM

The issue I disagree with has nothing to do with this issue, but that the legislature that we voted in is going against the wishes of the people. This has been brought to the vote of the people of WA twice in the past few years and it has failed. So what do our elected leaders do? Go Against the vote anyway. So why do they put things to vote if they arent going to follow them anyway. The same issue with the $35 license tab fee. This issue I am more upset about. Gay folks marrying doesnt affect me and I really dont care who marries who, but what is upsetting me is our leaders doing whats in their agenda and not what the voters want.

19mile said on February 1, 2012 at 12:38 PM

mellybelly323 please don't be naive. Google a bit and there a several civil lawsuits in court at this moment against churches, non profits, and personal people who have declined their facilities because of their beliefs. (which they should be allowed to do) however, they are in battle of losing the 501c3 status on grounds of hate crimes. This is when all of our freedoms of speech, religion, etc are in danger of being jeopardized.

19mile said on February 1, 2012 at 12:32 PM

David_Reed638 not asking you too follow a particular religion. I just don't believe you will be satisfied until your belief is on everyone or they accept it. I choose not to accept yours peaceably. No one is "asking you to follow the bible", however, when you come at the door of one who does believe it, would you allow then to decline to your beliefs. As I said before I highly doubt it. These are not actions of a democracy.

Loki_ said on February 1, 2012 at 12:25 PM

doug276614834154, can abide by it. Oh, and don't eat shrimp. Or associate with women on their periods. Or cut your hair. The list is enormous and 99% of what that book says doesn't apply to modern society.

mellybelly323 said on February 1, 2012 at 12:19 PM

I believe this bill has a safety net built in - that allows churches to make their own decision regarding "gay" marriage. It will not allow chruches to be FORCED into performing marriages they don't want to perform. And, quite frankly, why on Earth would a homosexual couple want to be married in a church that looks down on their lifestyle? I don't think they're the storybook big bad wolf out to force everyone into their choice of lifestyle. They just want the chance to live it openly, the same way we heterosexual couples do.

David_Reed638 said on February 1, 2012 at 12:14 PM

19mile - you can believe anything you want. The problem is when a particular religion advertises itself as the "law of the land" and tries to infiltrate our secular government with it's ideas of morality. Not everyone is of this particular religion. Not everyone follows the Bible. Not everyone wants a particular religion dictating to the rest of us how to live our lives.

doug276614834154 said on February 1, 2012 at 12:10 PM

This is just plain wrong. Plain wrong. Period. Show me IN THE BIBLE where two people of the same sex can marry each other.. Maybe as long as they don't use the Bible in their "ceremony". Just wrong.

19mile said on February 1, 2012 at 11:50 AM

It is irritating hearing Christians being hateful, this is wrong. It is also annoying when Biblical references & faith in a Bible God are disrespected, one which I know they don't have much research in & have missed the message of this book. It is also frustrating to hear quoted, "science has proved, or dna suggests" when it has not. I love our countries diversity. It allows faiths that I disagree with, to worship & be protected and free to do so. It allows me to teach my children beliefs & I'm protection from our nation's constitution. I am against same sex marriage. I am compelled to this decision because of my faith beliefs. I am not a vocal or hateful individual. I hear, "separation of church and state" which is mostly taken out of context historically. When a church says no to your union, will you state it as bigot, or will you hold to your nations constitution to protect their right to do so. At this point will you leave state out of church? I highly doubt it.

hourforum said on February 1, 2012 at 11:42 AM

mr_conservative- Here are some facts. 1.Same sex couples in Washington state have waited YEARS many YEARS for this vote, and for legal marriage. 2. Same sex couples across America have waited just as long-for the federal government to accept same sex marriage. 3.Same sex couples do pay more tax than hetrosexual couples PER the IRS 4. Same sex couples have been tossed under the bus in Olympia far too long. Same sex couples deserve exactly the same rights as you do as a hetrosexual. Maybe you can think on those terms? We should celebrate Diversity, and as Ron Sim's said " I will not fear my neighbor, I will embrace my neighbor".

Loki_ said on February 1, 2012 at 11:32 AM

realistic1 , so you're saying single-parent families or where grandparents raise an orphaned child, are not valid, healthy families? There are tonnes and tonnes of dysfunctional mother-father-children families out there. Your argument is invalid.

realistic1 said on February 1, 2012 at 11:12 AM

@bpieraccini - I have said NOTHING of religion. I wish people would move past the religious bigotry to see that this is NOT a religious issue. In in a normal healthy family, children need mother-child bonds AND father-child bonds. Each is vital. You don't have to look beyond a dysfunctional family for proof. Which one of these bonds are you saying is irrelevant and you would like to replace? Additionally, this marriage law does not give gays any additional rights that they already have from civil-unions.

scn9677 said on February 1, 2012 at 10:51 AM

Some people are afraid of change and others embrace it. Please explain how same sex marriage negatively affects heterosexual marriage. Facts please. We understand that you are emotional and afraid but what are the facts?

bpieraccini said on February 1, 2012 at 10:10 AM

I wish people would move past the religion and "so called" child rights issues. Public policy should not be based a religious moral code. The United States does not have a national religion. Move to the Middle East if you want a government that follows "The Book". Also, several studies show that children raised by same-sex couples are well-adjusted, and often better off than their male-female raised counterparts. Gays decide when to have kids, and are often more financially stable and educated themselves. Everyone is allowed their own personal opinion, but please do not use your opinion to discriminate and create laws against a minority. The sooner we resolve this issue, the sooner we can move on to the much bigger issues that Washington and the United States are dealing with. No one will be hurt by legalizing same-sex marriage except for the people who use other people's lives to define themselves.

realistic1 said on February 1, 2012 at 9:39 AM

By redefining marriage we are also redefining parenthood and family, which turns it into a children's rights issue. Hearts and lungs are vital to human health. They are not interchangeable or irreplaceable. You can create legislation that says hearts and lungs are equal. You can require schools to teach that hearts and lungs can be easily swapped out to include same organs. But, nature dictates that hearts and lungs will never be equal. Mothers and fathers are not exactly equal either, but they are equally vital. Nature has proven to our society that the most effective family unit to raise a child in includes a loving relationship of both a mother and a father. You cannot swap out marriage for same genders without harming causing harm to children and society. Certain individual children may be able to overcome their need for mother-child bond AND father-child bond, but by forcing society as a whole to break natural law it WILL harm us individually in the future.

joe_krumbach6806 said on February 1, 2012 at 9:33 AM

For those calling for a referendum, I would like to remind you of this statement by one of our Founding Fathers, and the author of The Declaration of Independence. "Bear in mind this sacred principle, that though the will of the majority is in all cases to prevail, that will, to be rightful, must be reasonable­­­; that the minority possess their equal rights, which equal laws must protect, and to violate would be oppression­­­." --Thomas Jefferson: 1st Inaugural, 1801

David_Reed638 said on February 1, 2012 at 9:28 AM

It is a great day for Washington. It is also a great day for society in general as the bigots, racists and haters will be forced out of the closet into the light of day. No more hiding behind anonymous posts and secret support of referendum initiatives.

gritz said on February 1, 2012 at 9:16 AM

Some think that the world started to go downhill with Reagan. They point to the fact, that it was Reagan who supported Hussein and supplied him with the weapons, including biological and chemical, to attack Iran. He also helped the Mushahadeen with weapons, RPG's and Stinger missiles. This of course led to Bin Laden. Reagan, Rumsfeld, Cheney and George Bush later followed by Bush Jr. It is true, that having Iraq and Iran fight benefitted us and our oil dependency with Saudi Arabia. Not too sure the history books will be so kind. Their hands are dirty in the deaths of ½ a million people. Those "thinkers" believe that if Reagan would not have involved us into conflicts that did not threaten our national security or present a clear and present danger to this country. We could have avoided the first Gulf war, the chemical attacks, Kuwaiti invasion and war crimes of Hussein, the invention of Al Qaida, USS Cole and American Embassy in Nairobi bombings, Sept 11 and the second Gulf War.

kimbeam said on February 1, 2012 at 8:56 AM

Who cares what these losers liberial elected do..soon as it goes to the voters it will be overturned just like everything else.. After this year these Liberial junkies will not find it to be as easy as last 30 years... Welcome a new begining for this ........SkunkVomit state of washington TIME FOR A CHANGE

usernamehere said on February 1, 2012 at 8:54 AM

Wow, I see all the bigots came out of the woodwork for this one. Most of whom seem to have issues with spelling. Well, I digress. I am excited for Washington. People are people, and I see no reason why one group should be allowed to tell another why they are less than, why they deserve to be second-class citizens. I don't really care what religion dictates - that's why we have separation of church (any church) and state. It's the state that grants marriage licenses to couples, not churches, and it should be granting to them to all that apply for one. If you're embarrassed to live here because of this, please leave. Washington will not miss you.

tootoo said on February 1, 2012 at 8:22 AM

@mr_conservative Abortion has been fully legal since Roe v Wade in the early 70s, gay acceptance has been slowly been happening since the Stonewall riots, but sky rocketed in the late 90s and 2000s and spending has been out of control since Reagan set foot in the Oval Office. So please point to a specific year when society started to deteriorate; examples of the deterioration would be fine (remember that the "causes" of deterioration can't be signs of deterioration).

javajoe said on February 1, 2012 at 7:56 AM

Pray for our state and for our country.

saynotolibs said on February 1, 2012 at 7:46 AM

Two words...civil union.

mr_conservative said on February 1, 2012 at 7:41 AM

So many deluded people...accepting sexual perversion as normal. Meanwhile, politicians in Olympia and DC continue to spend more money than is taken in, the murder of unborn children is promoted and celebrated...and society continues to deteriorate.

aziza said on February 1, 2012 at 7:30 AM

liamtuck? It was refreshing to read your post!

liamtuck said on February 1, 2012 at 7:27 AM

There is A lot of hate here. If you don't like Washington State and what it is doing.....BYE! No one is holding you here. Samesex marraige will not hurt you! They want to marry each other not you, not your kids. It is the couples who have been together all this time without marraige that just want to complete their journey togerther. For you, nothing will change. For them they will have their marraige. Thats it! Give it a rest people! Yes I am a heterosexual man who does not mind if my neighbors are 2 woman, 2 men, or one of each!

josh_iii said on February 1, 2012 at 7:15 AM

@search4Truth: I think you need you need to keep searching. You call gays and lesbians mentally ill? What about you brain washed bible thumpers? You quote the bible which was written by PEOPLE, not by your God. People wrote it, 2000 years ago. Let's all remember that those were people with a very limited understanding of how the world worked. Anything they couldn't explain, "must be by the hand of God". So you people that blindly follow this without question, and twist the words of the bible to fit your own agenda need to have your heads examined. You're the one's with a mental illness. Brain washed sheep-ple, following along blindly. Open your eyes, and maybe you will find the truth right there in front of you.

Soothsayer said on February 1, 2012 at 7:09 AM

Let's get this to the ballot and have the people of the state decide.

tootoo said on February 1, 2012 at 7:01 AM

Ok people, who let Eastern Washington on the internet again?

savvydude2003 said on February 1, 2012 at 6:49 AM

This is weird coming from a liberal legislature. I thought this government was all about protecting us from ourselves. Like starting legislation to make people drive 20 miles an hour through town. How is giving the mentally ill what they want a good thing?

ankh5 said on February 1, 2012 at 6:06 AM

Actually, those aren't questions for our great thinking politicians. I thought they were supposed to butt out of our personal lives and liberties.

whatsyurbeef said on February 1, 2012 at 5:35 AM

If the homosexuals get married and become confused about their sexual preference, then get divorced and marry the opposite sex, are they confused and married ? married and confused ? or just confused ? or do they get to marry both a man and a woman ? These are the questions for the great thinking politicians to address in this great land....

subaru said on February 1, 2012 at 4:20 AM

GGGROOOSSSSS period .

Loki_ said on February 1, 2012 at 1:51 AM

scoty: Sure thing man, maybe you want to move to China. They have really nice child-bearing requirements.

tprop said on February 1, 2012 at 1:45 AM

32 comments? Minimum wage story boasts more interest.

scoty said on February 1, 2012 at 1:29 AM

As if the court systems arent packed enough with hedrosexual marriages ending, now we can add more to it. They need to pass a bill making it tougher to get married period, and tougher to have children if your on public assitance or cannot fully support that child. Take away EIC tax credit, and penalize people who have children and are on assistance and have more children. Legalizing gay marriage should be null at this point given the countries budgetary problems.

Loki_ said on February 1, 2012 at 1:07 AM

Search4Truth: I'm atheist and my b/f is from a Muslim (*gasp*) family so we don't subscribe to your bible thumping rules, thanks. It looks like you think about gay sex more than we do. That's just messed up. Have a nice day. :)

fhc1986 said on February 1, 2012 at 12:20 AM

Honestly, i don't understand it. We pay our taxes, own our home, support local charities with time and money, raise our 4 children (homework, soccer, basketball, dance, etc), shop local businesses, participate actively in our church community, and I run a business that employs 60 people (and growing). Oh, i've been with my partner for 24 years. How are we so different? I'm guessing we share the same values of prioritizing family and community. So, why is it okay to deny an entire group of american citizens 1,138 benefits, rights and protections provided on the basis of marital status in Federal law. Unfortunately, legalizing gay marriage in Washington won't remedy this. To me this is completely, utterly un-American. So this may be upsetting to those of you who still do not see this as an injustice, but we won't stop until we have the same rights afforded all americans and the Defense of Marriage act is overturned. Untill then, we will carry on with work, family

Search4Truth said on January 31, 2012 at 11:26 PM

The sodomites always compare perverted sex with race in order to cram their mental illness down the throats of normal people.

Search4Truth said on January 31, 2012 at 11:25 PM

Romans 1: Even those who are not sodomites if they support sodomite marriage and sexual perversion, they will reap the same punishment the unrepentant sodomites receive. Think sodom and gommorah.

Search4Truth said on January 31, 2012 at 11:22 PM

sodomite marriage is not a right just as pedophile or incestuous marriages are not a right. If the sodomites want to marry, they need to obey the same rules as everyone else: Human being, opposite sex, over the age of majority, not closely related. Any change in this is special rights for sodomites - and then the pedophiles and animal lovers will want the same exceptions so they can marry children / animals respectively. Regardless, the sodomites are just angering God, they will never force Him to accept their perverted lifestyle regardless of who else does..

ricberrong said on January 31, 2012 at 10:12 PM

Why should anyone be able to vote on what should already be a right? So, lets take a vote on your right to believe in the bible, that is certainly a choice, not something you are born with. People, please, grow up and celebrate love and committed relationship and stop trying to destroy them with your pathetic negative behavior.

Loki_ said on January 31, 2012 at 9:06 PM

I like how so many commentors here seem to think that a legalised monogomous relationship will somehow be the downfall of society. As if it is somehow going to encourage bad behavour (let's all recall the tiny, short marriages of today's popular celebrities) and, my personal favourite, child molestation. Look, we DON'T want your kids. Creepy nutjobs do, it has naught to do with one's gender preference. You know this, so quit. Such claims make you look pathetically uneducated. Also, I don't see you "waaah the budget" people whining when the state blows money on all sorts of things. If Olympia was spending 2 million to wallpaper the capitol in bible verses, you'd cheer. The economy improves in areas where equal marriage is legal. It does. We spend a lot on weddings, and more people would move here and open businesses. It's just a fact.

You're the same people who cringe at interracial couples. This isn't Mayberry, and it isn't the 20th century.

torkezilla said on January 31, 2012 at 8:51 PM

This is what happens when progs run everything.budget deficit, no worries.rampant illegal immigration,ummmm not here.unfunded liabilities rampant through state employees,that's ok just raise taxes. nothing to see here normal people. you think it's bad now..........

Loki_ said on January 31, 2012 at 8:47 PM

Treeclimber: What sort of meds are you on, anyway?

codetalker said on January 31, 2012 at 8:38 PM

One side wants me to believe there should be no fundamental difference between the rights of men and women and the other side wants me to believe there should. Well aside from bathrooms should there be? Is there enough of a difference to make the distinction between a man and a woman significant?

whatsyurbeef said on January 31, 2012 at 8:07 PM

Kinda makes a fella all warm and fuzzy inside just thinking about it ....

baldeagle said on January 31, 2012 at 7:49 PM

Pass everything , but a balanced budget.

treeclimber said on January 31, 2012 at 7:47 PM

the little orphan kids will suffer the most the churches will shut down all the adoption agencys and the homosexual men will take them at will.

skmken said on January 31, 2012 at 7:29 PM

So the Defense of Marriage Act that the voters voted yes in 1998 and the Supreme Court upheld in 2008 means nothing? The back door approach is the only way this gets into law. It is a legal issue and it is being twisted for all the wrong reasons. Too bad.

tenspeed said on January 31, 2012 at 7:24 PM

You say a sad state of affairs? I say this is a VERY sad state of affairs. Just wish my vote would count because it would be NO.

Loki_ said on January 31, 2012 at 7:19 PM

YES. Hoping to make it down there.

Daytrader said on January 31, 2012 at 7:15 PM

States going broke cutting budgets and projects, yet it finds time for Bob to marry Jim and Jan to marry Jill, ya good ole Washington "every tree needs a hug" on top of the ole eight ball as usual.

hdwindy said on January 31, 2012 at 7:06 PM

What a sick society we live in!!

uwlvdawg said on January 31, 2012 at 7:02 PM

Somebody explain "LOGICALLY" How someone's sexual preference affect "YOU"??????? This coming from a hetero-sexual male..

gritz said on January 31, 2012 at 6:45 PM

Coug9 - Romney would have passed this five years ago if he was our Governor. Whats your problem? Isn't he your guy?

collentine1 said on January 31, 2012 at 6:09 PM

Of course it will pass. What politician would dare vote against it!

Coug9 said on January 31, 2012 at 5:59 PM

Way to go Democrats! Keep spending your valuable time and our tax dollars pushing your liberal agenda on us all! Thanks a bunch......you're doing such a GREAT JOB! Fix the things that truly need "fixin".......like our crumbling roads and pathetic education system. And stop threatening us by holding policemen, firemen, and teachers over the flames. You have PLENTY of money to do YOUR job. If you spent less on REDICULOUS projects such as legalizing "same-sex marriage", wasteful spending on mandatory artwork in public buildings, massive pensions for state employees, huge entitlement programs, and poorly managed resources, to name just a few............we might actually have a State worth being proud of. This State is an embarressment. This meassure to legalize same-sex marriage is yet another step in the wrong direction, and a WASTE of our time and money.

treeclimber said on January 31, 2012 at 5:47 PM

this is great now we and our back door buddies can adopt little boys and girls to sleep between us and it will be legal..all it takes are some brain dead polititions.next the pot head senaters will make it legal to smoke dope on seattle city streets.....

andyblue555 said on January 31, 2012 at 5:16 PM

Great News. I love that the hate filled people are brewing . That is just a plus in this whole thing.

puyalluprox said on January 31, 2012 at 5:06 PM

I'm just glad they got the important budget deficit thing fixed first. Wait.....what?

monroe527 said on January 31, 2012 at 4:18 PM

If it passes, the government is totally wrong!

whatsyurbeef said on January 31, 2012 at 4:05 PM

Sad state of affairs.

mr_conservative said on January 31, 2012 at 3:09 PM

Society continues to deteriorate...

pacmariner said on January 31, 2012 at 2:46 PM

Almost there Washington!