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Seattle-area garbage talks deteriorate

by ROBERTA ROMERO / KING 5 News

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Posted on April 11, 2010 at 4:21 PM

Updated Monday, Apr 12 at 8:57 AM

TUKWILA, Wash. - Waste Management says it's working toward an agreement with union workers despite disagreement over its "best and final" offer.

On Sunday, Teamsters Local Union 174 took their message to the people who count the most, the customers, including Longinue Shipp, union member and customer.

"I'm definitely going to put signs in my yard. I'm definitely in the King County pick-up area, because I pay for my garbage too," he said.

The signs will be handed out to the community to show support for garbage haulers who are fighting for a new contract with their employer, Waste Management.

"All we've asked them to do number one is come to the table and bargain a fair contract and they refuse to do that," said Michael Gonzales of Teamsters 174.

Waste Management says that's because they've already done it. The issues of wages, retirement and health care have been addressed in what they call their best and final offer.

"If the teamsters would put rallies and politics aside their members would see clearly that this offer on the table is solid and strong," said Jackie Lang.

Now the risks go higher. The union has already threatened a strike. Now Waste Management could save them the trouble and lock them out.

"The union has the right to strike, Waste Management has the right to lock out," said Lang.

Both union and management agree on one thing, how best to serve the one million customers they serve in King and Snohomish counties during these negotiations.

"I tell customers we hope to come to an agreement … nobody in that room wants to strike," said Shipp.

"It's business as usual unless you hear otherwise," said Lang.

The union is asking customers to place the signs in their yards to show support. They're also handing out door flyers with information and phone numbers for customers to call if their service is disrupted.

Waste Management says after they placed want ads, more than 2,000 people responded and 500 of them are now moving forward in the interview process.

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underserf said on April 14, 2010 at 5:25 AM

How about "Trash talk to end in Seattle"? Would be nice... but it IS nice to see all the non-union retail workers who post here complaining about unions the only ppl who are allowed a decent living are investors, apparently 10,000 unemployed men with =clean= CDLs here in WA? Hilarious. They'll likely just H11b drivers from India or such, same rationale software companies used to import thousands of programmers and keep THOSE wages down =US=

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bobknows said on April 13, 2010 at 1:53 PM

Fire and replace any driver who won't work. No problem. There must be ten thousand honest men in WA looking for good jobs.

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whatsthetruth12 said on April 12, 2010 at 8:27 PM

trojan33- They don't make a lot of money. Take home is around 55? And I can B*&ch all I want. There contract is for 4 or 5 yrs. No one would agree to take a pay cut when the economy will turn around before then. You chose your occupation along with all the downfalls that come with it. But I would never look down on you for agreeing to a pay cut. And in this situation between the union and WM - the garbage drivers are the only one getting screwed.

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trojan33 said on April 12, 2010 at 8:07 PM

whatsthetruth- You got it backwards. I'm not complaining about being a physician. I am retired from medicine and happy with what I am doing now. I was talking about how you were complaining about getting pay cuts and having to pay a few grand and take some classes to keep licensed. Doctors have been doing just that for decades. So quit b#*&$ing. Suck it up and quit acting like garbage workers are the only ones getting screwed. They make a lot of money with very, very little investment in education and money.

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whatsthetruth12 said on April 12, 2010 at 5:40 PM

trojan33 - If you don't already have your CDL, then you can't work there. You have to have your CDL and have driven a vehicle that requires that CDL atleast 1 yr in the past 7 yrs. Atleast that is what they have on their website. Why do you compare a garbage driver to a doctor? If the doctor wanted to be a garbage driver, so be it. The truth is THEY DON"T and WOULD NEVER want to be a garbage driver. Stop comparing this job to doctors, engineers, teachers etc. Because the fact is these people couldn't physically do the job. And don't say that they are all automated with arms that pick them up...because they are not all automated. It is one of the most dangerous jobs out there also. So show some support. Stop crying about how you don't make that much and can't believe your garbage driver does while you are un/underemployed. The fact of the matter is they were hiring before the recession but no one wanted the job....

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treeclimber said on April 12, 2010 at 2:36 PM

WASTE MANAGEMENT,LEMAY,PIERCE COUNTY GARBAGE DISPOSEL,OR WHAT EVER THE ARE CALLING THEM SELVES. THEY ARE OWENED BY A CALIFORNIA SUBSIDERY AND WILL DO THE SAME AS THEY DID IN PIERICE COUNTY BRING MEXICAN'S IN FROM CALIFORNIA, JUST AS THEY DID BEFORE AND THEY WILL USE THEM TO BREAK THE UNION.

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trojan33 said on April 12, 2010 at 1:40 PM

whatsthetruth- So they have to pay a couple of grand and take some classes to make what a family physician makes. The physician goes thru more than ten years of higher education and is left with an average 300,000 dollar debt for medical school alone. Do they even work half the 70 hour week a physician does?

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runner693 said on April 12, 2010 at 1:36 PM

Waste Management (formerly LeMay) broke the union in Pierce County and they will do it in King County too. I told y'all before, "Last & Final" means just that. Now since that statement is on the table, there are certain rights and obligations. Some of the union's rights include ULPs, Unfair Labor Practice charges, of which the U has already filed 5. These are usually nonsense, trumped up, BS which are normally just shot down as fluff. It is all just power and greed. So, tell us U members, where are you going to work when the replacements come on board??

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whatsthetruth12 said on April 12, 2010 at 12:29 PM

Everyone should be supporting these drivers. They are fighting for what they believe is right, and just because the majority of the people on here had to take a pay cut/cost increase in insurance, doesn't mean these drivers should roll over when the largest garbage company will not bargain in good faith. And I am sooo tired of everyone saying there are plenty of people to do these jobs, and these drivers should be lucky to have their job. Stop whinning, if it where sooo easy, and such a gravy job, you would have been working there BEFORE the recession. These positions are not easy to get, let alone maintain for a any sort of length. If you don't have a class b CDL (which will cost you about $2,000 to obtain) an airbrake endorsement, drivin a truck requireing the CDL for atleast 1 yr, can pass a UA, and a DOT physical, and has a CLEAN driving record (in your personal vehicle too), then go down and see if you can get hired. Then you will see if you can actually HANDLE the job.

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kameha said on April 12, 2010 at 8:29 AM

break the union, I don't need my bills going up so uneducated garbage haulers can make over $100,000 a year!

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whatsthetruth12 said on April 12, 2010 at 7:09 AM

Stand Strong 174!!!!!

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schluckenscheie said on April 12, 2010 at 1:42 AM

Jackwong, möchte ich Sie in eine Grube von verkokt bis Schweinen werfen und gießen Sie auf Kalk, nachdem sie für Ihre Anmerkungen gemacht werden!

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jackwong said on April 11, 2010 at 10:49 PM

I think the workers should walk out soon, to show WM that they are not going to stand for corporate greed and intimidation.

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3rdgennw said on April 11, 2010 at 9:24 PM

Go SCABS! Bust that union!

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carlconstantine said on April 11, 2010 at 8:32 PM

Union represented workers should be fired immediately and non-union workers should be hired to serve the best interest of the customers. Non-union workers are hard working and are grateful to even have jobs in the first place. Not like Cry Baby union workers that still PEE PEE in BED!

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trojan33 said on April 11, 2010 at 8:29 PM

leftwithzero- Yeah, welcome to the boat that everyone else is on. And thats nothing.

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leftwithzero said on April 11, 2010 at 7:55 PM

Travel to Milwaukee Wisconsin and ask the retired Teamster member with a gravely ill wife and daughter with health care issues how he manages to provide and how he copes where the earned pension after of decades of service to that employer in which he was collecting at $2300 a month was cut to a 1/3 of that amount, for the rest of his life. Maybe seeing that destruction alone would open ones eyes about WM. By the way, that was the only source of income into the family because he was medically unable to work. Did everyone see tthis on UnderCover Boss, or was that piece of tape cut out and left on the floor.

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anonymoususer said on April 11, 2010 at 7:42 PM

fire them all and give the jobs to people who need them and will work for a living - and for half of what the lazy union bums make

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jonjuan said on April 11, 2010 at 7:02 PM

I'm ready to take my own to the dump hell with them.

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rin4350 said on April 11, 2010 at 6:38 PM

The union is just using scare tactics. They are sighting Oakland saying the trash lay on the streets for a month. This is bogus!! There may have been some slight -very slight- delays but trash was picked up in a timely and professional manner! WasteManagement knows what it is doing. In this economic times these people should just be grateful that they have jobs and benefits!

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mudslngr1 said on April 11, 2010 at 6:36 PM

How dare these union people scoff at one of the best paying jobs in Washington State. Fire the union people and hire people who want to work. Waste Managment is doing the right thing

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blankingout said on April 11, 2010 at 5:59 PM

"Teamsters Local Union 174 took their message to the people who count the most, the customers, including Longinue Shipp, union member and customer." That guy doesn't matter to me. Fire the union workers and give work to the unemployed (already trained and qualified) worker who understands the value of a dollar!

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yogibear said on April 11, 2010 at 5:34 PM

This could stink for all of us

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trojan33 said on April 11, 2010 at 4:51 PM

At least the talks were bio-degradable.

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