Parents visit Amanda Knox in Italian prison

libretarian said on December 8, 2009 at 2:28 PM

unbiased jury? Put the crack pipe on the floor & step away from the lighter. "it would be hard to argue that the six members of the Knox jury who came to court draped, literally, in the colors of the Italian flag, were unbiased arbiters of the facts of the case.” Lets take a little trip in wayback machine to the south in 1947. can you say "All white jury"?

vicktrola said on December 8, 2009 at 10:21 AM

Do the crime, serve the time. I'll be glad when this story fades and Knoxy has to sit in prison without the media attention she and her family crave. Thank goodness (in this case anyway) most Americans have a 5 minute attention span.

gritz said on December 8, 2009 at 9:55 AM

truthdector - The Italian courts said she was guilty. No class, no conservative vrs. liberal. People who listened to testimony for over two years, said she was guilty. I'm sure you will spin thin into some sort of Obama fault thing like you always do.I enjoy your banter for comical entertainment. my_opionion - Unfortunately, the people who knew her best, before this, are not speaking: Boyfriend, Roommate and friend.

my_opinion24 said on December 8, 2009 at 9:16 AM

Does anybody personally know her?

truthdector said on December 8, 2009 at 9:08 AM

Gritz you're and idiot, your class warfare has prejudiced her as guilty, you're a typical liberal.

gritz said on December 8, 2009 at 8:43 AM

Apenney You keep expecting the American justice system to be applied in Italy.There are many Americans in many jails serving long sentences for crimes that we would consider minor,unsubstantiated and unjustified throughout the world. The only difference between them and Amanda is, they are not a rich little white girl from Seattle.Do you honestly think Fox news would run a story about this if Amanda was a Laquicha ? The idea that the United States Secretary of State would somehow get involved in this case is appalling, considering the cases they refuse to intercede on.Many American children are kidnapped to Arab counties yearly. Many wives are held in countries where they have no rights and cant leave, we(USA) do nothing. Personally, I feel more comfortable of have this convicted murderer in jail, compared to a "might be guilty, 95% sure but not 100%.

my_opinion24 said on December 8, 2009 at 8:42 AM

I'm from Texas and have been following the story for quite some time. I've heard "stories" about Amanda, but I'd like to know who she really is. Can anyone tell me? Did anyone on here personally know her?

truthdector said on December 8, 2009 at 8:36 AM

She was rail roaded in a third world court system by an American hating prosecutor and found guilty by American hating Europeans; you got to crack a few eggs to make an omelet so destroying one person is worth it to them in order to stick a knife in America.

stryker said on December 8, 2009 at 6:25 AM

I hope they dont make a story out of it every thime they visit her. Boring...

libretarian said on December 8, 2009 at 2:36 AM

apennythought - It's called T.V. & WAY too many people watch WAY too much of it. From what I've seen & the things I've read & you mentioned, reasonable logic dictates no way did they do it. Do you people really believe two kids could clean a crime scene of all the (non) evidence?? HELLO!! CSI is NOT reality. And yes, kids do act a little strange when under immense pressure. This is not a T.V. show. Think about how a REAL 21 yr old girl might act (not an actor on T.V.) One other thing to note, we have no idea how out of context anything we saw actually was. But then again, logic isn't exactly a strong point on the left coast is it.

apennythought said on December 8, 2009 at 1:07 AM

Have you never known anyone who was so germ-conscious, they wouldn't share any dishes or clothes with anyone unless they had been washed in chlorine bleach? I have known someone who did that, and she wasn't even weird, just really cautious. Either Merideth or Amanda could have been that way (maybe both!). So lay off about how perfect and infallible the Italian justice system is (is any human system perfect?) and face-up to the reality of variety among human personalities. I'm pretty sure it was Amanda's grandmother who told us that her Italian friends assured her that *no one* is acquitted at trial in Italy. If that's true, it sounds like their system is designed to encourage appeals (job security for those employed by the justice system?). Now they get an economic benefit, too, while family members pay rent and buy groceries there during the appeal. Perfect.

apennythought said on December 8, 2009 at 12:54 AM

And get a load of the fantastic tale that wild-eyed, fame-seeking prosecutor made up from so little evidence you couldn't even verify a Jr-High research paper with it. How in the world can you give any credence to DNA evidence when Amanda and Meridith LIVED together? Does anyone NOT expect house-mates to, at least occasionally, do laundry together, help each other with clasps on undies or necklaces, etc., wash dishes in the same sink with the same cloth or towel? Have you never gone on a picnic with a friend, departing from one home and stopping at the other, washing the dishes (knife) there before taking them home (or forgetting them there). The knife didn't even match either the wound OR the bed markings. And WHY would they have stood around the house with the police investigating? Why weren't they on separate trains or buses hundreds of miles AWAY from the crime scene like Mr. Guede? Where were THEIR bloody fingerprints, which should have been near Mr. Guede's, in the room?

apennythought said on December 8, 2009 at 12:40 AM

It is a pity that so many people are unable to live peaceably with the fact that different people have different ways of coping with various stresses, and are willing to convict someone of murder whom they have never met, base solely on her uncommon (thought not exactly rare) way of coping with being accused of a crime she didn't commit by the authorities who are supposed to be keeping her safe while she studies in a foreign country, supposedly to get a broader understanding of the world so she could have increased compassion for people who have different ways of living on earth and understanding their culture. (Look up Asperger's Syndrome.) She sure is getting a good view of a different way of running a *justice* system now, isn't she. The jury wasn't sequestered during the trial, they had to try to remember the value of various evidence and testimony over a years! time, there were only eight of them, and only five had to agree to convict her. By American standards, it's a farce.

mtmom4 said on December 7, 2009 at 9:59 PM

It's not fair that her family is asking for the country to send money to them. They are already in debt and we are not going to bring them out of debt and they need to accept that there daughter is in prison for something that she done and they need to quit asking us as people for money!!

graham said on December 7, 2009 at 3:56 PM

Why is this brat getting any media when there were 4 police officers killed a little over a week ago. She is where she should be in prison. To much made of poor little Amanda, lets face it she is a rich brat who got in big trouble & for 2yrs we've heard of her so let it drop & let her rot in prison.

graham said on December 7, 2009 at 3:51 PM

Make it easy for the parents, lock them up along with the little brat

yogibear said on December 7, 2009 at 3:51 PM

seattlegurl The "boyfriend" was in trail in the same court room with Amanda and received 25 years. The other guy had what they call a fast track trial and has been convicted and is in jail.

monkeylove said on December 7, 2009 at 3:30 PM

From "experience" You DONT black out from smoking too much hash! FACT (I've tried) You may fall asleep, but you will not continue to physically function and your mind not retain the data...Especially an event like MURDER.

hrdheded1 said on December 7, 2009 at 3:01 PM

See folks, when you go on these drug binges, they are no good. That's why she (Amanda) cannot remember what had happen that night. Always, keep drug usage in moderation.

seattlegurl said on December 7, 2009 at 2:50 PM

I personally dont think Amanda was the "killer" per say, I think her boyfriend did it.. Why wasnt he on trial for two years?? What about the other guy too?? Everybody is forgetting about the other two guys!!! I think Amanda knows what happened and she is scared to tell the truth... i still think she deserves to be in prison because she knows something...

gritz said on December 7, 2009 at 2:45 PM

If you had read the rules of agreement you would have seen the no web linking clause. I think I will add that to my premise that you read and comprehend what you want and label those who don't agree with you.

hippiegirl said on December 7, 2009 at 2:41 PM

I'm sorry for my prior post. I meant to say Meredith Kercher not Amanda Kercher.

hippiegirl said on December 7, 2009 at 2:40 PM

Sorry, I mean to say "Meredith" Kercher, not Amanda Kercher.

hippiegirl said on December 7, 2009 at 2:39 PM

I'm so tired of hearing that poor Amanda is still in prison, poor Amanda will have to wait another year before her appeal will begin, poor Amanda this, poor Amanda that. What about reiterating the fact that Amanda Kercher was murdered, Amanda was convicted of this murder, and so there's a very good reason Amanda is still behind bars. It's like her parents are trying to make it all go away however possible. I feel for them in a sense, but she is guilty, has been found to be so by the Italian court system, and now she has to pay for her crime.

pepsifaninwash said on December 7, 2009 at 2:12 PM

um,. you guys notice the roommates name was not mentioned in the above article one time?? WOW. people are FORGETTING there was a murder victim in all this.

globaljustice said on December 7, 2009 at 1:57 PM

Gritz, I replied to your note, but apparently the NCNW censors saw fit to pull it. These guys would have been right at home on the House Un-American Activities Committee. Civil, rational discourse is not allowed, apparently, but people may log on here and call each other insulting, demeaning names. Amazing...

gritz said on December 7, 2009 at 1:19 PM

The flight recorder was active. He did not do a roll and acrobatics before the accident. He was flying in what was considered clear air space.It would not have mattered if he was going 300mph or 500mph, speed had no factor. The film was personal property, he could do with it, what ever he choices to do with it.They were prosecuted for destroying the tape. A bad conduct discharge and 6 months in jail. ((A Felony conviction)The Italians had not properly reported the hazard to the Aeronautical Safety Commission who would have created a no-fly zone through known tactical air training zones.The Italians understand that they were partially at fault, and that is why they were little protest (CONSIDERING). Your kind of like the Fox news watchers. You read and believe what you want, without doing the homework to get an accurate summation.

globaljustice said on December 7, 2009 at 12:25 PM

Gritz, no soapbox. I was pointing out that media play in the U.S. has been that of "anti-American" bias among Italians. Where might that possibly originate? These are facts: Even without the gondola cable presence on aero maps, Asbhy willingly VIOLATED protocol by flying at 365 feet, 700 feet LOWER than allowed. He flew at 620 mph, 100 mph ABOVE the allowable limit. He performed a roll immediately before severing the cable, no doubt inhibiting his reaction time. He taped his stunt, then removed/destroyed the tape. If it were me, and I were innocent, why not keep the tape to demonstate my proficiency as an airmen? As for going AWOL, it was not necessary as all four were shipped stateside, eliminating any possibility of a civilian trial. Again, three Italians were among the murdered that day, and justice was not remotely served. Might there be an element of "revenge" here? BTW, I have military in my family. I don't disdain (your soapbox?) soldiers/airmen, just criminals.

hz6sp6hz6sp6 said on December 7, 2009 at 11:59 AM

After reading all the facts in this case from begining to end it obvious Amanda does not have a conscious. You do not make out with your boyfriend in the police station just hours after finding out your roommate was murdered, It's disrespeckful. You do not smile in court in a murder case, It's disrespeckful. Why was the knife washed in bleach? Why did she say she was at the house during the time of the murder and then change her story? I would have never said that no matter how many times they hit me. I think that even if there is no God it is still advantagious to go to church. They tell you over and over not to hurt other people. The state of Washinfton has had more crazy serial killers then any other state in the country. Seattle has the highest suicide rate in the country. Their are more child prostitutes in Seattle in anyother city. Did you know Seattle has twice the theft rate then Detroit per 100,000 people? Washington also has fewer churches then any other state. Go fugure.

hz6sp6hz6sp6 said on December 7, 2009 at 11:56 AM

After reading all the facts in this case from begining to end it obvious Amanda does not have a conscious. You do not make out with your boyfriend in the police station just hours after finding out your roommate was murdered, It's disrespeckful. You do not smile in court in a murder case, It's disrespeckful. Why was the knife washed in bleach? Why did she say she was at the house during the time of the murder and then change her story? I would have never said that no matter how many times they hit me. I think that even if there is no God it is still advantagious to go to church. They tell you over and over not to hurt other people. The state of Washinfton has had more crazy serial killers then any other state in the country. Seattle has the highest suicide rate in the country. Their are more child prostitutes in Seattle in anyother city. Did you know Seattle has twice the theft rate then Detroit per 100,000 people? Washington also has fewer churches then any other state. Go fugure.

gritz said on December 7, 2009 at 10:46 AM

global justice You do not have all the facts. First off, Military members cant just leave their post and fly home when in trouble. That's called AWOL. Secondly, their are rules of flight that you are not aware of either. Was the gondola present on aeronautical maps? Did the gondola have aircraft avoidance indicators on them?Would the airmen have a fair trial? Your accusation is that the military allowed the escape and prosecution of one of its members. In clear violation of SOFA agreements and law. Being an retired military member myself, I am kind of taken back that fellow citizens have such disdain for their military members.Usually Military courts are easier to convict and punishment are much harsher than civilian courts. BTW what does this have to do with Amanda? Just needed a soapbox?

kenpomaster said on December 7, 2009 at 9:32 AM

I feel sorry for the deceased English girl. First, she had to put up with her crazy roommate. I've dated a couple English girls. Their mental age is much older than Americans. So I can imagine what kind of hell she must have gone through because of her immature, deviant, psychotic roommate. R.I.P.

globaljustice said on December 7, 2009 at 9:23 AM

I just posted the story of Captain Richard Ashby, US Marine, and his killing of 20 civilians in Italy in 1998. He illegally flew his aircraft too low and fast and sliced through the cable of a gondola at a ski resort. The skiers were hurled 400 feet to their deaths. Ashby fled to the US and was subsequently found not guilty by a US Military Court. The post was removed by NWCN. Why is this factual account considered inappropriate for this discussion, in which posters are calling one another "idiots" and "murderers" and "devient (sic)?"

honestahol said on December 7, 2009 at 9:17 AM

Teach your kids morality, and be strict about it. Then, you won't go have go through this kind of experience. Plus, teach your kids to stay away from drugs. I seriously wonder what kind of parents they were to this deviant killer.

frankguy said on December 7, 2009 at 9:05 AM

What kind of idiots are sending checks to the spoiled murderer's family???? Send the checks to victim's family or Italian tax-payers!!!!

gritz said on December 7, 2009 at 8:49 AM

You can not blame the parents for believing in their daughters innocents. That is what parents do.We can not ignore the fact that Amanda can not remember what she did that night. Seem like a very out of the normal night, something that would be difficult to forget I think her inability to account for her whereabouts was crucial in the case.Even if she smoke some hash, you do not loose your memory.trust me I know...I think.

norwegiandave said on December 7, 2009 at 7:41 AM

hebeshebewebe- you are a horrible person. Loser.

justcommenting said on December 7, 2009 at 7:23 AM

yeah, and don't think the "donations" are tax free either. the irs will find you and nail you too. what kind of parents are you to raise a killer?

hebeshebewebe said on December 7, 2009 at 2:19 AM

Hey Curt look in the mirror. You raised a devient murderer and she was found guilty. Maybe you should look at your parenting methods cause your anything goes approach didn't work. LOOK IN THE MIRROR.