Man killed by medical marijuana thief

oldmangreen said on September 13, 2010 at 4:46 PM

The reason they hope they got finger prints off the crowbar is Pierce County Sheriffs DID NOT INVESTIGATE THE ASSULT AT ALL FOR A COUPLE DAYS, when they came back for the crowbar AFTER they learned Mike would DIE!. Pierce County Sheriffs are involved in this MURDER clear up to the Sheriff himself. Thats what happens WHEN YOU ALLOW THE CRIMINAL TO JUST WALK AWAY FOR DAYS BEFORE THEY EVEN START THE INVESTIGATION! They willfully and knowingly rendered criminal assitance, they know that evidence at the time is most important to catch the criminal. Protect yourself from this criminal organization representing themselves as law enforcement. If you can't handle the truth then don't read it, facts are in.

koolbreeze said on March 17, 2010 at 1:05 PM

I wonder why the investigators say they "hope" fingerprints will lead them to the killer. We currently have the technology to get fingerprints on anything. So if they do not find the killer, I will be very suspicious of the cops. I know it is not all cops but there is something going wrong out there. I will just patiently wait to hear what is happening with the fingerprints.

doctork said on March 17, 2010 at 6:14 AM

The opponents say that medical marijuana is "highly addictive" among other distortions. This is simply not true. How can it be "highly addictive" when it does not even have a documented physical withdrawal or cases of fatal overdose as opposed to most controlled substances and alcohol, while being highly effective for a wide variety of medical conditions ranging from pain control to muscle spasms to malnutrition, nausea and many others. But just to throw more light on this issue, there is such a thing as "addiction liability" of different substances in addiction medicine. Marijuana's addiction liability is 3%, compared with 10% for alcohol and 21% for opiates. The prestigious Substance Abuse: A Comprehensive Textbook, 4-th Edition states on page 267 that cannabis use suppresses, instead of inciting, the violent crime. There are no medical, scientific, moral or philosophical grounds to keep medical marijuana from legitimate patients who need it.

reneeresser said on March 16, 2010 at 7:38 PM

hello My name is renee i was there the night Mike was attacked he is my roomate I would like everyone to just focus on the fact that there is still a murder out there. any tips can help

idontgetit said on March 16, 2010 at 6:27 PM

Ok! Imagin you have had an illness for 50 years and you tried every medication. You get an authurization from your doctor for Medical Marijuana. You are not a criminal but a middile class American. But get stoped for speeding, panic and am taken to the hospital without a breath test. An attorney enters you in a defered prosacution which you follow to the letter EXCEPT you have a State Doctor Percription for Medical Marijuana. You never test positive for alocohol but the court revokes your defered prosacution 3 1/2 years later because you are using Medical Marijuana without telling you to stop. Almost 4 years go by and you don't have a drivers license, you can't get employed in your profession, you loose everything. House, wife, family, car I mean everything. Then nightmare jail for 30 days. This is where I'm at now. Then house arrest for 90, but no money so back to lail for 90 days. You have to also go thru treatment again. Your mind, job prospects, family everything gone. WHO PAYS?

daverino said on March 16, 2010 at 2:31 PM

The oldest story in the book, You got that much dope on ya...Your asking for trouble. especially if it's illegal. You attract CRIMINALS... Stoned criminals even, they'll kill you with a rock, for $5.

capegadgets said on March 16, 2010 at 12:57 PM

After years of using it, I had went thru withdrawals, due to the difficulty with the VA of getting the drugs (long story but can be googled, as I am not the only Veteran who has been mistreated because of the legit use of pain relievers). I went to my private Doctor, who treated me and I was able to find another treatment to replace this drug (I had a spinal stimulator implanted and now take ultram and oxycodone as needed). The VA would not do this for me, and I spent years being under scrutiny for taking a legit pain reliever. Please do not judge the people who use cannabis for legit medical purposes. It could be you next, who is diagnosed with cancer, which needs cannabis to overcome the nausea from chemotherapy.

capegadgets said on March 16, 2010 at 12:57 PM

This is very sad. It is not worth your life, be it cannabis or a pack of cigarettes (my brother was stabbed over a pack). It is very sad to that people who need cannabis, as a medicinal and cannot receive it without being ridiculed or harassed. Trust me, until a mishap, disease, or cancer happens to you, and you find that cannabis relieves pain and/or symptoms acquired because of your disability, you will do anything to acquire or grow it. I am a fully disabled Veteran with a severe back injury. I do not or have not used cannabis. After several surgeries, I have had to use synthetic morphine to relieve the massive pain due to the nerve damage from the accident I was in and the many surgeries that followed. I was ridiculed and harassed because of the use. I hated using it, but to function, it was needed.

bac148 said on March 16, 2010 at 11:48 AM

If it were legal for any adult to grow their own it wouldn't be worth thousands of dollars a pound. Keep it illegal is stupid and clearly has never worked. All this talk of taxing it and selling it at liquer stores is a bad idea also. No control over what goes into what you are smoking. It will become tampered and engineered like cigarettes done just to increase profits. The only real answer is allow any one who wants to grow to grow. They can buy a license, say $300 a year maybe. Nobody would rob or kill for something that was worth $40 an ounce. They would make the small investment and have as much pot as they wanted. Nobody steals items of no value.

total_khaos said on March 16, 2010 at 9:58 AM

Jazzysport's comments: "Marijuana would be high on the list of things people would steal for. A guy just got killed for his "legal" marijuana in a robbery attempt. How many more would there be." Seriously? People get killed for a buck eighty-five in their wallets or no money at all sometimes. Your argument makes absolutely no sense. People get killed for "illegal" pot too so it wouldn't make a difference one bit.

fed_up said on March 16, 2010 at 9:31 AM

dsalazar27 - I'm sorry for your loss. My condolences.

scott_bellevue said on March 16, 2010 at 6:42 AM

billiameveryman: I've been smoking marijuana all my life. I have three college degrees, and a good job working at a business I created myself. I'm sure I"m far more productive than you'll ever be. So go pass judgment on someone else. It's people like you that are the problem, passing judgment on others that are living their productive lives happily until some jerk like you comes along and tells them how they should live. You represent tyranny of the majority, not freedom and liberty.

unhappy said on March 16, 2010 at 6:39 AM

Medical Marijuana seems just another scam made up by a few people who are making profits just like the other dirty bags growing it illegally for anyone but these people are smarter, they tell you they are helping the truly hurt and needy. Its garbage and people believe it. Everyone I have ever seen with a medical marijuana card is about 25 to 35 years old and suffering from a sore back and sprained thumb. I really believe in helping people and if someone is really hurting and i know they"re out there, I would give them anything to help but medical marijuana is just a way for some people to get high legally and make money without really working. Lets look at oxycotin. its legal and look at the the people using it, stealing it, addicted to it, and overdosing from it. And yes, in both cases there are some bad doctors prescribing anything people want so they can collect the appointment fee and bill your insurance.

billiameveryman said on March 16, 2010 at 1:38 AM

Hmm, I wonder what the economic value of the productivity lost due to rampant marijuana use would be should it be legalized... Actions have consequences kids, put down the pipe...

tomma206 said on March 16, 2010 at 12:33 AM

Anything for profit will always be a target for crime.This is only a story because marijuana is involved.Countries that dont worry about criminalizing things so much have almost no problems.Seattle is a very bad example of how to regulate just about everything

dsalazar27 said on March 15, 2010 at 10:52 PM

my friends and i knew mike this is very sad, and we feel like the law DIDNT do there job right there are parts they are not saying..these cops didnt care about mike after he was hit with a crow bar they told him that this might be embarring the emts will slap a bandaid on it and he'll be fine and now hes died..but god will judge them in the end...my prayers go out to mikes family and WHO EVER did it will be caught..cops harrassed him constantly even though he had a green card...he wasnt doing anything wrong.this story should have been about mike being murdered NOT marijuana My personal thought maybe it was those DIRTY cops harrassing him... R.I.P. mike

blankingout said on March 15, 2010 at 8:03 PM

Do we bash people over their heads over tobacco?

bobknows said on March 15, 2010 at 7:46 PM

Legalizing freedom would eliminate over 50% of crime and prisons, with equivalent percentages cut from police and prison budgets. Tobacco is more addictive and kills more people but we don't have ongoing killings over tobacco because its legal. Prohibition always causes far more problems than it solves. Prohibition of drugs creates and finances huge international criminal organizations, not the least of which is financing the war in Afghanistan. We need freedom, not crime and punishment.

carlconstantine said on March 15, 2010 at 6:58 PM

jazzysport - Does anyone actually think that legalizing marijuana would or should totally balance the entire State budget and create a surplus rainy day fund? Geez! Louise!!! Truth be told, people are very much open to ideas that can create tax revenue rather than draining tax revenue... Yeah, that's right. Every dollar helps. Save money here, raise money there... is what it takes to cut through a huge deficit. Nobody ever said that taxing marijuana would SOLVE our tax problems. None of the posting that I've read. Please provide links to postings that promotes this theory. It may not raise as much as people think, but every effort helps. Does this make any sense at all?

scott_bellevue said on March 15, 2010 at 6:49 PM

I don't see why this is any different than someone being killed by a thief that broke in for money, or jewelry, or anything else. The man that was killed was the victim of a violent robbery, period. This says nothing about medical marijuana.

jazzysport said on March 15, 2010 at 5:54 PM

I keep hearing this idea about taxing the stuff. The fact is it would not generate a big amount of tax money relative to other tax revenue. It would generate about 100 to 200 million dollars of revenue. A drop in the bucket to the overall budget. To put it in perspective, we have a 3 billion dollar budget deficit now. It would only make up for a lousy 5 percent of the defecit. I am tired of the emotion people tie to this issue when it comes to tax money and what it would generate. It would NOT generate anywhere near what people think. it would not solve our budget problems at all. A very small piece of money in actual fact. And again, legalizing marijuana would not stop the crime involved with it. Just more of it around that others want to steal for. They will not grow their own, they will steal it from anywhere where more and more people will grow it because it is legal. Just like guns, taking guns away will only make sure criminals have them. More marijuana, more robbery in homes.

trojan33 said on March 15, 2010 at 5:52 PM

tresjbenet - Nice trolling. Have fun.

jazzysport said on March 15, 2010 at 5:44 PM

Can you imagine the new problems legalizing dope would create. More robbery than police could keep up with. The legalization is not the problem, its the fact it would be like anything else people wanted to steal. Marijuana would be high on the list of things people would steal for. A guy just got killed for his "legal" marijuana in a robbery attempt. How many more would there be.

tresjbenet said on March 15, 2010 at 5:27 PM

Both persons in this story of guilty of gross stupidity.

carlconstantine said on March 15, 2010 at 5:01 PM

If it ain't worth dying for, you don't wanna be in it... The guy with the crowbar should have been met with a freshly cleaned and lubricated 357 Magnum! But if not that, at least a snub-nosed 38.

anonymoususer said on March 15, 2010 at 4:52 PM

Right - and if we legalize opium the war in afghanistan (and the poppy money) will end too ------- what a stupid reason to want to legalize something. If the medical marijuana were grown by the government and sold in pharmacies, it would end the budget deficit while stopping thieves from breaking into other peoples property for their marijuana.

esstowell9347892 said on March 15, 2010 at 4:39 PM

Very sad, if Cannabis were legal, we wouldn't have this problem. Hope they catch the guy.