When news broke on Monday that The Boy Scouts of America could soon do away with its long-criticized ban on gay members, it caught the attention of folks all over the country. Among them is Seattle resident Joe Hopkins.
He's an Eagle Scout and a longtime troop leader who also happens to be gay.
Hopkins was never asked to leave the Boy Scouts because of his sexual orientation, because he didn't actually know he was gay until much later in life.
Still, he says the organization's policy regarding gay scouts and troop leaders has always upset him.
"To me it's appalling that you have a boy and he's been working hard and he's a leader, and suddenly he has this epiphany that he is who he is, and he is tossed out," said Hopkins.
For years, he's advocated for a policy change on the national level.
When a spokesperson for The Boy Scouts of America confirmed the ban could be lifted as early as next week, Hopkins says he was thrilled, but also cautious.
"Until the vote actually occurs and I see that they've passed it, I can only be hopeful," he said. "But I think it shows that our country is being more accepting of all of our citizens and more affirming of all of our citizens."
The true test will come next week, when the Boy Scouts Board of Directors is expected to take up the issue at its regularly scheduled meeting.
If the policy change is approved, it would removed the man on gay members and troop leaders from The Boys Scouts of America's national rulebook. Instead, the decision would be left up to each local chapter.
Hopkins says he and plenty of others will be watching and waiting for an answer.
"I'm sure I'll be crying," he said. "I think it'd be a great day."