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Outrage over handicapped parking signage

by LINDA BRILL / KING 5 News

KING5.com

Posted on December 16, 2009 at 6:54 PM

Updated Wednesday, Dec 16 at 6:54 PM

SEATTLE - Parkers beware! On Warren Avenue North and Second Avenue North between Mercer and Roy Streets, the city has installed two long blocks of handicapped parking.

But, many drivers say the spots are not well marked. They look like the normal Pay-To-Park signs, but at night and on Sundays, it's handicapped parking only for an entire two blocks near the Seattle Center.

"I found a ticket for $250 on my windshield when I got back," said Rhiannon Parmelee, who parked on Second Avenue in late October. She says there were no handicapped parking signs that people normally see. There were no painted sidewalks or painted wheelchair markings.

In mid-November, the city added more handicapped signs on the two blocks.

"We belive it is clear now. But we are open to additional feedback from the public. If we need to take additional steps we will do so," said Rick Sheridan of SDOT.

Parmelee says she will fight her ticket in court. No exact numbers are available now, but the city has issued hundreds of tickets on those two blocks costing drivers thousands of dollars.

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seattleflyguy said on March 9, 2010 at 10:57 PM

There are two signs that do not meet the requirements. Signs must be clearly visible to the driver and 7 feet high according to the state rules WDOT design Manual M22-01.05. They must have sufficient reflectivity with normal low beam headlights to be as visible at night as in the day. They are not. RCW 46.61.050 says no provision of this chapter for which traffic control devices are required shall be enforced against an alleged violator if at the time and place of the alleged violation an official device is not in proper position and sufficiently legible or visible to be seen by an ordinary observant person. "Parking for people with disabilities" Washington State states that the signs must be in full view of the driver. 9 feet up doesn't count.

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hrdheded1 said on December 17, 2009 at 8:46 AM

I have my tools ready to go cmeeverett.

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plugchucker said on December 17, 2009 at 6:30 AM

to neogeek...not everyone that is handicapped is "morbidly obese that can't walk because they are too fat - (their knees hurt, etc.), or the decrepid elderly that shouldn't be allowed to drive anyway". It is your pervasive attitude that is typical of the seattle metro area influx of the mass migration to WA. I hope that someday you too are handicapped and someone sterotypes you in the same manner as you have...

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cmeeverett said on December 17, 2009 at 1:01 AM

I think some good neighbor should just... take those signs down. 2- minutes with a socket wrench ought to do it. After all... you can't be ticketed if there is no sign.

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recon said on December 16, 2009 at 9:31 PM

How else is the city supposed to pay for the "civic" structures that the citizens voted against.

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neogeek said on December 16, 2009 at 9:18 PM

I would be angry too. Everybody knows that the majority of "handicapped" people are just the morbidly obese that can't walk because they are too fat - (their knees hurt, etc.), or the decrepid elderly that shouldn't be allowed to drive anyway. Bloody hell, just stay home and let normal people use the parking spaces.

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maynerdgkrebbs said on December 16, 2009 at 9:13 PM

if the area DOES NOT have the LEGAL signage,then it cannot be a handicapped paking space .Standard legal sign is the white wheel chair on a blue background on a post a certain height clearly marks the space. If this sign is not there then the parking is open for anyone.

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wildone_106 said on December 16, 2009 at 9:11 PM

2 blocks seems a bit EXCESSIVE if you ask me, is there really that many handicapped drivers needing parking?? Seems to me the city is counting on regular good people making a mistake like this and getting a ticket. Shame on them eh? Shame on YOU. And by the way, I cant tell you how many times I've seen V8 Mustangs or H2 Hummers with Handicapped signs on them I guess some of them have no trouble putting their foot down on the freeway and still enjoying other privileges..

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billiameveryman said on December 16, 2009 at 8:53 PM

Jeepers Dave, I hope you never misread a parking sign... As we all know, they are so clearly marked... Bitter much?

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skyjumperdave said on December 16, 2009 at 8:16 PM

I'm not sure, what don't these stupid drivers get. Handicap Parking, means Handicapped Parking. I hope all these a**holes that park in these designated spots get a huge ticket. It would be nice if they put the ticket at $5,000.00 maybe them these people might get the message. Handicapped Parking is for those who are handicapped.

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andwhynot said on December 16, 2009 at 8:10 PM

How else will the MONEY HUNGRY aristrocrats of Seattle finance their spending in the coming year?

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