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Brace yourself, La Nina threatens wetter, colder NW winter

by GLENN FARLEY / KING 5 News

KING5.com

Posted on September 9, 2010 at 12:33 PM

Updated Thursday, Sep 9 at 4:42 PM

SEATTLE - Remember the winter of 2007/2008? I-5 through Chehalis was under water, clearing snow at Snoqualmie Pass was literally wearing out plows and graders. That was the start of our last La Nina, the wetter, colder weather phenomenon that's the opposite of the more common and warmer El Nino. At least that's what it all means for the Pacific Northwest.

La Nina occurs when the surface water near the equator tends to be cooler than normal in the eastern Pacific Ocean. El Nino is the opposite, as warm water pushes up against central and south America. While the engine of these weather effects seems a long way off, their effects are global.

On Thursday, NOAA's Climate Prediction Center issued a new advisory about La Nina, saying it strengthened during August.

"Nearly all models predict La Nina to continue at least through early 2011," the report's authors said, adding, "La Nina will begin to exert an increasing influence on the weather and climate of the United States. These impacts include an enhanced chance of above-average precipitation in the Pacific Northwest."

For other parts of the nation, La Nina is likely to bring less precipitation to the Southwest and portions of the middle and lower Mississippi Valley. It also amps up the Atlantic hurricane season.

Scientists who study this, many of whom work at NOAA's Pacific Marine Laboratory in Seattle, analyze water in the upper 300 meters of the ocean. That water is monitored by a belt of buoys strong across the Pacific, along and north and south of the equator.

But scientists are quick to point out that the effects from La Nina and its warmer cousin El Nino are about averages. According to the Climate Prediction Center, "It is likely that the peak strength of this event will be at least moderate... to strong."

But while some weather records recall the winter of 2008/2009 a neutral year, leading NOAA Research Scientist Mike McPhaden says it was a second La Nina Winter.

"In fact, the last three La Ninas have been double dippers. They've gone on for two winter seasons," says McPhaden.

2008/2009 winter saw the December snow storms that impacted the City of Seattle, and helped to cost former mayor Greg Nickels his job.

In January 2009, record levels in the Howard Hanson flood control reservoir in the Cascades damaged part of the ground that abuts the Howard Hanson Dam. At that point, the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers said another storm might have forced them to release water, flooding the Green River Valley from Auburn to Lake Washington. At that point the chance of a flood was placed at one in three.

The Corps saying extensive work on the dam has reduced the chance today to one in 60. The goal is to have the dam back up to full strength to a flood chance of one in 140. The Corps says it's ready to handle the flood threat as best it can this winter.

The valley got a break and more preparation time last winter, which was a warmer and drier El Nino.

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jcman said on September 11, 2010 at 8:55 AM

vandamme: if you use your bbq you can easily end up dead and if you're real lucky you end up in a hyperbaric chamber in the hospital. Those things put out massive amounts of carbon monoxide, odorless, colorless gas that locks oxygen out of the blood.

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ghost762 said on September 11, 2010 at 4:56 AM

As long as it's not like last winter where it was pouring rain in the middle of January at Heather Medows in the Mt. Baker Ski area. It should have been dumping snow instead.

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imonlyme said on September 10, 2010 at 8:38 PM

Oh Nooooooo, I hate snow! But then I hate rain too lol

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baristababy said on September 10, 2010 at 8:33 PM

it's cute when they try to predict pacific northwest weather, teehee! especially here on the coast, we get what we get. some snow days would be fun, though!

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emptynestr said on September 10, 2010 at 5:38 PM

I always say " What you SEE is what you GET" and I am always right. : )

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senormoofer said on September 10, 2010 at 1:41 PM

Holy f*ck, a wet cold winter in Seattle, NO WAY!!! (please note the sarcasm)

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hope77 said on September 10, 2010 at 1:05 PM

snow!

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delyryumizm said on September 10, 2010 at 11:41 AM

I think I'll just do what I always do and wait and see what actually happens.

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yaright said on September 10, 2010 at 10:51 AM

Weather & climate change is historically cyclical worldwide. Let's not be over-zealous & confuse weather cycles with global warming. Let me now indulge the over-zealous side by stating: "LET IT SNOW, LET IT SNOW, LET IT SNOW" It's been said but we deserve it every couple of years.

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truthdector said on September 10, 2010 at 7:48 AM

They said last winter was going to be harsh, they said last summer would be hot and dry, neither happened, they said the world was melting, but it will cool off for ten years just hang in the and keep believing that global warming will come back...

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skippypotpiebaby said on September 10, 2010 at 1:26 AM

More snow

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rbees said on September 9, 2010 at 11:52 PM

So...what's this whole speil about Global Warming about?

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vandamme said on September 9, 2010 at 10:33 PM

No problem. I live in the downtown. We'll always have nice warm electricity! But don't worry, people. Even if you live in the suburbs and even if you lose power, you can always rely on your BBQ grill! They're as good as fireplaces!

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adcpdx said on September 9, 2010 at 9:25 PM

I want another major snow storm!!! Love it.

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xtremeracer said on September 9, 2010 at 9:22 PM

MAN this global warming is a Bioth

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freedomthinker said on September 9, 2010 at 8:02 PM

bring on the ice age. the sooner the better. skiing keeps me sane

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whatsyurbeef said on September 9, 2010 at 5:28 PM

vandamme I got a hunch you'd like the snow shovel diary, google it.

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vandamme said on September 9, 2010 at 4:38 PM

So are we going to have a White Christmas or not???

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emopoops said on September 9, 2010 at 4:33 PM

yeah i thot el nino was hot, this la nina sounds cooler..

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vandamme said on September 9, 2010 at 4:24 PM

No problem. I've got German Luxury AWD SUV.

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whatsyurbeef said on September 9, 2010 at 4:23 PM

Get yourself a good set of snow meats and plan a vacation to scottsdale az.

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sibyl69 said on September 9, 2010 at 4:08 PM

Forewarned is forearmed. Time to prepare and have all necessary equipment and supplies before it becomes a crisis. This goes for cities as well as individuals.

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sc206 said on September 9, 2010 at 3:53 PM

Just what we need after a ripoff of a summer is a winter with more rain than usual. Ugh.

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zaxxon7469 said on September 9, 2010 at 3:23 PM

I hope everyone's insurance is paid up. sounds like bumper cars on the roads again.

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remainingreal said on September 9, 2010 at 3:00 PM

I have to say as much as I cringe at constant rain and dreary weather, you all are right. We do need the snowpack, I hope next summer is a lot better and let it snow, rather than constant rain.

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bpg131313 said on September 9, 2010 at 2:49 PM

All that snow we had really messed things up. I remember watching a long bus jack-knife when trying to make it up an off ramp. If we get the same kind of snowfall, I'll be out helping people get out of the ditch when I'm not working. It's not something people like to hear, but we really do need the moisture and snowpack.

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werkn44 said on September 9, 2010 at 2:45 PM

Sure hope that comes with a better Summer

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nwhominid said on September 9, 2010 at 2:26 PM

Let it snow, let it snow, let it snow...

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