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Investigators: Warnings of paycheck padding ignored by state ferries

by SUSANNAH FRAME / KING 5 News

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Posted on May 10, 2010 at 9:30 PM

Updated Monday, May 10 at 9:57 PM

Before retiring, Ken Marable was the most experienced engineer in the entire Washington State Ferry System. With 35 years on the job, he was best known for his expertise in all things technical, mechanical, and disagreeable. Marable worked below deck in the engine room, where he was a constant complainer. He was one of five whistleblowers in 2002 who accused their engine room supervisors – staff chief engineers- of padding their own paychecks through a strategy of working unnecessary, self-assigned overtime.

Marable's boss on the ferry Puyallup was Staff Chief Engineer Doug Phillips. The KING 5 Investigators have reported on Phillips before. Through public records we found he's one of the chief engineers pulling in massive amounts of overtime and even some triple time – up to $140 an hour in some cases. According to the public records we obtained, Phillips saw the top pay boost of all the staff chief engineers.  In 2008 he went from $90,000 to $190,000 - more than doubling his salary; mostly with double-time.

Some ferry riders did a double-take when they heard those numbers. One rider told us, "It sounds like a lot of money especially during this time when there's not a lot of money around.”

In 2005 Marable slapped Phillips and his boss Mark Nitchman with a lawsuit. In the suit he said that after he accused them of being part of a greedy "inner circle", that the two bosses circled the wagons and waged a campaign of "retaliation" to stop him from complaining about alleged misuse of public funds. For example, Marable testified he was allergic to a cleaning agent that Phillips insisted on using on the boat.  A doctor wrote the chemical put Marable in "respiratory distress" and he was “not to be subjected" to the chemical again.  Other products were available, but Phillips kept bringing it back to the ferry anyway. Court records show Phillips allegedly told Marable: "I have it, and I'll use it, and then you'll be gone." 

Marable said he continued to suffer from breathing problems when the chemical was used. So, he went over Phillip’s head and asked Phillips’ boss, Mark Nitchman, to do something.  That didn't work either. The product stayed on board. It was finally removed from the Puyallup when a representative from OSHA, the federal Occupational Safety and Health Agency ordered it to be removed.

The state defended their workers, telling the jurors the men didn't believe Ken Marable or anyone else could be allergic to the product which was known to be safe.  The Assistant Attorney General defending the men, Lisa Sutton, told the jurors Phillips and Nitchman were “dedicated state employees, proud to be public servants, proud to uphold the mission of the Washington State Ferries: that safety and public accountability are first.”

The jury didn't buy it. In a unanimous decision they awarded Marable $276,000 in damages.   On top of that he received a whopping award in punitive damages: $1,250,000 for Phillip's behavior and the same amount for Nitchman's role in the retaliation.  This left taxpayers on the hook for more than $2.7 million.

After the accusations of pay-padding, the paychecks ballooning with overtime, and the huge jury award involving the same group of chief engineers, the KING 5 Investigators found nothing has been done by the state.  No discipline. No investigation. Those supervisors—Phillips and Nitchman--are still employed and are two of the highest paid employees in the entire ferry system.

Ferry riders were outraged to hear neither Washington State Ferries nor the Washington State Department of Transportation looked at timesheets or conducted a series of interviews to see if any of the pay padding allegations were true.

“It’s shocking and it’s not right and it’s got to stop. We need to know what’s going on, people need to be informed so that we can make changes in this and bring the system around so that it’s working correctly so we can get the maximum benefit out of the tax dollars we spend to ride these ferries, said ferry commuter Susan Day Carlson.

Reporter Susannah Frame said, “Obviously this jury was trying to send a strong message and it doesn't sound like anyone listened to it."  Washington State Ferries Director David Moseley responded, “Well I think I have listened to it.  I think that I have said that that behavior in any form in this organization is not acceptable behavior, period. And it will not be tolerated under my watch.”

We were unable to reach Doug Phillips as he is out-of-state.  Mark Nitchman declined our requests for an interview. Their supervisor, the Director of Vessel Maintenance, Paul Brodeur, also turned down our requests for an interview. Ferry riders say that's not good enough. They are demanding answers and accountability.

“If enough people get involved and get mad, we're going to take it all the way up to the governor, as far as we need to go, people like me are sick and tired of this!" said Carlson.

Late this afternoon the spokesperson for State Ferries told KING 5 that after the Marable verdict Director David Moseley, wanted to embark on an investigation but was advised against it by the Attorney General’s Office.

Click here to read the jury verdict form in the Marable case.

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nonclassical said on June 28, 2010 at 1:03 AM

Pay orders at WSF are actually weekly audited; more thoroughly audited than "securitized mortgages", held on a second set of books by "investment banks" as collateral for $$$$$ they were borrowing against phoney securities, then used to run up "derivatives-commodities" futures to the $600 Trillion range. Ms. Frame would do us all a greater service if she were to expose such much more egregious corruption that has taken down all U.S. state economies. That she doesn't do so makes it appear King 5 wishes to scapegoat state and union employees. After all, how many Americans are aware of what has actually been done to destroy our economy?

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jaimeretief said on June 10, 2010 at 6:24 AM

pawney, you constitute a perfect example of why siblings should not marry. There is currently a world-wide shortage of licensed marine engineers. Your idiotic proposal to put these jobs out for bid would be a catastrophe to this state. How many $150K per year engineers do you think you'll get to bid on a base salary job of $81K? Duh? Maybe you've taken on too many fumes from slaving over that deep fat french frying machine.

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pawney said on June 9, 2010 at 11:16 AM

Here is a thought, make all of workers re-apply for their jobs, or put their jobs out there for bid.

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raincity1979 said on June 8, 2010 at 10:28 PM

They need to clean house within the Ferry system and get rid of these astronomical salaries induced by overtime. This obscene pay they are doling out is simply theft of the people of Washington State.

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jaimeretief said on June 6, 2010 at 1:04 AM

You're gas bag willrogers. Your idea of high speed rail would cost untold billion$ to implement. It's never going to happen. Never. You need to lay off of the recreational pharmceuticals. Ditto your sock puppet dirtyharry69.

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willrogers said on June 1, 2010 at 5:22 PM

Those pearls look more like 'road apples' and they smell like the paper plant in Tacoma. As for the trains, it seems you're hopelessly stuck in the Lindbergh kidnapping era. Trains are electric these days! Most forms of transport are subsidized. Make the thieves and brigands who are modern day pirates figuratively walk the plank. Dirtyharry69 tied it up neatly in a package that stayed on course with the topic and the flow of the discussion. Time to get the butterfly nets out!

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dirtyharry69 said on June 1, 2010 at 7:44 AM

Engineers should be fired and replaced. They have cost taxpayers milliions. On top of it they are trying to hurt employees because they did the right thing.

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necaeosomnes said on May 31, 2010 at 8:45 PM

Merely a typo, bumpkin. Something that comprises the bulk of your posts. It would appear that your tardy rejoinder is due to your little swim. Either that, or it took you a couple of days of ruminating to regurgitate an answer. However, my response to your inanities do not constitute a tacit agreement to engage in a flame war with someone of your rustic simplicity. You like the idea of Choo Choos running around the sound, do you? How many billions will they cost? Wood or coal fired? How much subsidization will they require? Finally, your points are not "understood" because they aren't points. They lack foundation and they have not been tested empirically. They are nothing more than boorish ramblings. You say you were threatened with "legal liability" when you went on strike? Was your right to strike actually prohibited by law? The ferry worker's right to strike IS prohibited. Now you may flame away with impunity. I will no longer cast my pearls before you.

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willrogers said on May 31, 2010 at 7:56 PM

What's a 'unionize'? I support high speed rail around the Sound. It might be a more economical way to provide a solution to this mess. I like the drive around now that the Narrows Bridge is complete. Just because my other points aren't understood by you doesn't mean they lack validity. Every time we went out on strike we were threatened by 'legal liability'. That threat didn't stop us from walking. The tax paying public asks for accountability.

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necaeosomnes said on May 30, 2010 at 12:26 AM

willrogers is a presumptuous moniker. Will Rogers was intelligent and rational. Unfortunately you do not possess either of these fine qualities. No one has responded to your other "thoughts" because they lacked cogency. Please now, allow me to assist you. Their right to strike was legislated away and replaced by the Marine Employees Commission. If they strike they incur legal liability. Their wages are already below the rest of the industry. Go ahead, cut them in half and you won't be able to man the vessels. As an alternative I recommend greasing yourself up like a channel swimmer and you can just swim across the sound. I would further advise departing with the tide. You will find the cold water quite stimulating and I daresay the swim would sharpen your appetite. As for the ramming of the docks, I don't recall any propulsion control or engineering issues. Lastly, regarding your alleged participation in labor contract negotiations...I wasn't aware that McDonald's was unionize.

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willrogers said on May 29, 2010 at 9:46 PM

Bucketosteam you state that you worked for 10 YEARS without a contract. Nuff said about how both parties really wanted to get the contract done. LOL! Not even a whiff of a strike? I've sat in on my fair share of negotiations and I assure you that fake acrimony is rampant. You guys have been milking the system and the taxpaying public for too long. Now it's time to pay reasonable and customary wages.And if we the people even cut your salaries in half would anyone even consider working somewhere else because they have to work too hard? Big babies. I hope you aren't using company time to read and respond to these posts. I notice that no one replied to any of my other thoughts on this matter. I will construe silence to be agreement. Safely? When are we going to stop having to replace docks that have been rammed and splintered, necaesomnes? "Naive friend"? Haven't heard that term since.........well........since I sat in contract negotiations. LOL LMAO!

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necaeosomnes said on May 28, 2010 at 5:18 PM

"I am glad we have investigative reporters to bring these violations to the surface." They aren't "violations" my naive friend. They received this pay under the contract. This is just what licensed engineers make in the industry. If you don't like it, change professions. Look at what the King 5 Anchors make for just reading the "news." You can read can't you? Probably, but I doubt if you could keep a ferry boat running safely (or otherwise).

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my2cents1 said on May 24, 2010 at 10:10 PM

Since we all know any government agency doesn't police itself well, I am glad we have investigative reporters to bring these violations to the surface. Obviously there is some middle ground, but clearly major improvements need to be made. I agree people should be paid what they are worth, but some are taking advantage. Their mothers must be proud.

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bucketosteam said on May 20, 2010 at 3:16 AM

the problem with that statement willrogers is that the Staff chief engineers in the story are management. they are the highest ranking person in the engine room. so of corse there is room for coruption. But to all keep in mind that most Staff Chief engineers are fair. And as for the union and management being in bed togeather try being a fly on the wall during contract negotiations. and untill just recently when we finally receved a new contract we had been working on an old contract for a decade!!!

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willrogers said on May 17, 2010 at 12:13 PM

Common sense in tough economic times for the state of Washington seems to be in short supply. A poorly managed system where the union and the management are in bed together along with the workers who "get along, go along", makes for a toxic soup. I'd be surprised if further study didn't find political favors and family members being hired into these jobs for life. A jury found in favor of Mr. Marable. They found reasonable cause that harm was done. If unchecked, those practices could cost the state more than just the 2.7 million awarded in this case. No one is saying that management is stealing outright. They are saying that clever manipulation of the contract allows for wages that are out of line. Ms. Frame is just doing her job. Unfortunately she is putting her nose into an area that doesn't like exposure to sunlight. At least she's smart enough to not get sucked into a 'dog and pony' show like the reporter from Bremerton.

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bucketosteam said on May 14, 2010 at 9:02 AM

I congratulate all of you for supporting the privatization of the ferry system. Personally as a ferry employee who works in the engine room, I like this idea. Not only can we remove the beurocrats in the office but when we negotiate a contract that goes to arbitration a private company cannot just decide not to pay for a raise. Unfortunately for the gentleman who was complaining about $50 to get to Friday Harbor, which will be the cheapest fare, anyone would ever see. The cost of fuel is not even covered by the current fares , not even mentioning maintenance and wages (people never work for free). And remember the ferry system was privatized before, and they sold their fleet to the newly formed Washington State Toll Bridge Authority, later Washington State ferries.

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clint69975146227 said on May 13, 2010 at 11:12 AM

THIS IS NOT THE WORKERS FAULT. THIS IS MANAGEMENT. THE MANAGEMENT IS WHO CALLS FOR OVERTIME, THE MANAGEMENT IS THE ONE WHO BARGAINS FOR SPECIAL PROJECTS, THE MANAGEMENT IS THE ONE WHO KEEPS THESE EMPLOYEES WORKING AFTER SUEING THE STATE.... AND FOR DAVID MOSLEY TO SAY THAT HE KNEW NOTHING ABOUT THIS, IS LIKE PAULA HAMMOND TO SAY THAT SHE KNEW NOTHING ABOUT THIS....LOL

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mcnitch said on May 12, 2010 at 7:47 PM

So what exactly did Susan expose, four or five people working their butts off for the one year their ship went into the shipyard for a multi-million dollar overhauls. Some of these guys were so banged up they needed surgery right afterward. She found a guy who lives on Shaw Island that has to drive to Tacoma to go to work and is paid according to his contract. She found out that a conflict which started when Bill Clinton was president cost WSF 2.7 million dollars in the Bush era after a two day trial in a civil court. (She forgot to mention that it was thrown out of federal court the previous year). She found that there were two people still getting special project time travel pay even though WSF officially ended the practice 5 years ago. None of the people she exposed make half of what the nightly news readers on her channel make even though we are responsible for thousands of lives a day and were abiding by a contract both WSF and our representatives signed. Ratings........

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diesel82 said on May 12, 2010 at 5:40 PM

sorry turbo but the fact is they are the reason why these boats run well. the ship yard dosent keep bilges from rotting or make sure the boat is well equiped for a casualtie underway, or fix a malfunctioning drive motor, or keep the ship up to 33 and 46 cfr, or guide the officer in charge of marine inspection (you have to have em to run) etc the list goes on and on. the ship yard only does stuff you cant physically do in opperation. go back to youre day job , you suck at do ng this obviously.

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wiperwally said on May 12, 2010 at 5:38 PM

The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits. Perhaps those of you who may be message board heroes or facebook superstars should realize your own spin then recognize KING TV's spin. It doesn't matter how many facts, statistics and real evidence that may be presented to KING TV's Susannah Frame, she has decided along with KING TV to belittle our efforts at delivering what is the safest transportation system by land, air or water. They want to punish you, your families and the middle class as a whole. They do not care how hard you work, how many sacrifices you've made to be sure that WSF's safety and dependability is second to none. They want to paint our lives as a scam. It's easier than showing the actual hard work, dedication and sacrifice we have made to deliver a first class transportation system unequaled on earth. 1700 people are not scamming, they're busting it 24/7/365.

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rightwingliberal said on May 12, 2010 at 5:15 PM

The fact of the manner is that the ferries supplies reliable, safe transportation for the public every day of the year. The passengers appreciate this service. Western washington is very vulnerable to disruptions in service. Although we face a major budget crisis in this state and across the nation people still need to get back and forth to work make a living. Public employees are no exception. As anyone who lives in western washington knows the cost of living is high and getting higher everyday. King 5 and Ms.Frame should take into consideration that a public hanging and character assassination of state employees in an attempt to lower their wages is not the answer to the states budget crisis. Its not exactly muckraking when you consider that most state employees are struggling just as much as everyone else. And the inner circle of these "supreme employees" will not be made an example of but take everyone down with them.

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mcnitch said on May 12, 2010 at 1:34 PM

Because when he tells the interviewing reporter more, it ends up on the cutting room floor, figuratively that is. It is probable that every politician in the state knows how a bias media can twist anything onto something it is not or as in this case present only one set of facts. I am sure each politician has been burned on numerous occasions by a zealous investigative reporter who does not check all of the facts before going public. Haven't you wondered why no other major media entity in Seattle or Washington is going after this story? They know the score too.

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augsburg said on May 12, 2010 at 11:35 AM

How does David Moseley keep getting away with saying he didn't know, it was someone else, etc. . . . ? Isn't it his job to know about things like overtime and employee travel policies? Why did past Directors at WSF allow these abuses to occur for years? Why hasn't Secretary of Transportation, Paula Hammond, or even Govenor Gregoire stepped in to fix this. Who is in charge! A big thanks to King TV for bringing this to light.

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mcnitch said on May 12, 2010 at 10:26 AM

Yes turbo, you are correct nothing will happen to us as individuals because the system is designed to look at all of the facts, not just those put forward by a few malcontents who can not get over their own short comings. What will happen is the rest of the fleet will suffer because of the actions of you guys here. It will be an uphill battle to retain many of our hard fought rights because of your brainless expose which presented only your side of the argument. Back on the table will be travel time for relief personnel, travel passes for our families and of course the role of the SCE. In these issues we will end up having to pay for many of these rights again, decades after they were negotiated with management the first time. There will be even less work performed by the ship's crews in the shipyard and the reliefs, well I have a hard time shedding a tear for them since it is one or more of their own kind that whispered sweet nothings in Susannah's ear. So fine job dope(s).

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turbo69 said on May 12, 2010 at 8:42 AM

These guys aren't the reason the boats they work on run well, its everyone else that works on them. I am talking about Eagle Harbour and all the control specialist they call in. Most of them have appointed themselves to the job they hold now after being in an office for years without current practical experience. These guys wouldn't make a good wiper in the engine room. They all should be fired and charged with theft of tax payers money ,but we know this won't happen. What will happen is this will go away, they will go on stealing tax payer money until the day they die. I say this because they will retire & receive 60% to 100% of there salary and they will also circle the wagons because who wants to say they gave these wonderful people there jobs. They are appointed position their good buddies.

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diesel82 said on May 12, 2010 at 7:26 AM

yup , i guess someone must have plopped a steamer in susanas gene pool.

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mcnitch said on May 12, 2010 at 5:35 AM

Thanks for the support diesel82, have had alot of people say some pretty nice things to me since this started, it feels good to know that the minority controling king 5 strings are just that a minority. I think we have just about painted over all of the jb initials in all the tanks, Puyallup is almost cleansed of that crew now.

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diesel82 said on May 11, 2010 at 9:18 PM

wel sunlover the state wont let that happen.sorry, and the ferries arent the reason why the states going broke. thats would be other things.

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mcnitch said on May 11, 2010 at 9:18 PM

Modern tea parties are intellectual skinny dippers. Don't get burned sun lover.

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sunlover said on May 11, 2010 at 9:09 PM

This state taxpayer doesn't need the luxury of $150K state employees anymore when people can drive around. Let the ferries go. If a private company wants to pick them up, have at it. How many trips daily are full. The cost to keep them running is literally running the state out of money. Let them go except for Vashon and the San Juans. Subsidize a private company and it would still be 100's of millions less than currently spent on terminals, ferries, fuel, salaries (some totally out of line), etc. Seattle to Kingston via 1-5, is a little over 2 hours. To wait in line, catch a ferry drive to Seattle has to be 1.5 hours for a 30 minute crossing from Kingston to Seattle, plus the ferry charge. Let them go, say goodbye and let the state save some money. OR - manage them correctly and hold the negligent ones responsible for their actions. Hasn't been done in years. Look at lawsuits, MEC rulings, crashes, running aground, etc. Let them go, save 100's of millions of $$.

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necaeosomnes said on May 11, 2010 at 8:34 PM

5) Marable was looking out for the public good. He was diligent in his filing of Whistleblowers in the public interest. His altruism and selflessness was so noble that he readily accepted $2.5M of the taxpayer's money rather than declining it or donating it to charity. 6) Privatization works, as evidenced by the success of so much of the private sector; ENRON, GM, Chrysler, Goldman-Sachs... Maybe if the Ferries are privatized they'll be able to get some of that TARP money and they won't ever have to leave the dock.

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diesel82 said on May 11, 2010 at 8:21 PM

ill try again........ fR aLL U peeple chrying 2 corec mie speling,...... quite frankly U KAN KIS MIE ASE, lets just pause for a moment and ask what you really think is going to happen to the staff chiefs? they wont get fired because they're the best in the biz. theyve don to much for the saftey and efficiency of the fleet. do you honestley think the ferries will ever get privitized? ans. NO, the ferries would go kupoot. then you would have to drive youre stinkin prius all the way around the sound to get to youre white collar ( and most of you mcdonalds) "jobs". just because you have a computer dosent mean you can solve problems " that dont exist mind you) it suck when baby dosent get its way.end of story.

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necaeosomnes said on May 11, 2010 at 8:16 PM

This thread appears to suffer no shortage of illiterati. Perhaps Our Lady Susannah-of-the-Yellow-Journalism should begin reporting the facts. She's no Woodward and Bernstein and she has subverted the Public Disclosure laws at the Taxpayer's expense. A brief response to previously posted inanities: 1) I am certain that an audit of the current Port Engineers Department payroll evaluations would find them to be more definitive than any previous. 2) There are other companies employing M.E.B.A. members in supervisory positions and, in fact,some of their Port Engineers Departments are unionized. 3) Juries are typically comprised of common people possessing little or no subject matter expertise. Their awards are hence subjective and arbitrary. 4) Companies do not discontinue all practices due to an employee allegedly developing a related allergy. (If a weldor develops an allergy to welding flux smoke the welding company is not going to switch to Elmer's Glue.)

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mcnitch said on May 11, 2010 at 7:36 PM

Tea party idiots. Privatization means the the ferries will end, period. Only three runs are profitable from an operating program cost recovery. If you add in the capital requirements they will never recover for any one. It would be like privatizing the police or fire departments. Take a look at the american merchant marine, the only thing that keeps it alive at all are cargo preference laws. You neanderthals will wal mart yourselves right out of a job.

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runner693 said on May 11, 2010 at 7:21 PM

We take lack of intelligent response, or rebuttal by the (formerly talkative) ferry workers union members to be acquiescence. And,I agree with Sunlover.....PRIVATIZE it. That is the only way to get this ship back on an even keel. Don't hold your breath.

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sunlover said on May 11, 2010 at 4:52 PM

And DAVID MACK - what is your point? Since when does Homeland Security get involved in public interviews of state employees on public property. Wow, what a reach. Again, the story is a good one when you have certain state employees making more than the WSDOT boss and possibly the Queen Gov. Hmmm.... But the issue that has been raised and not addressed by those responsible is the punitive damage award of 2.5 million. Someone's head should roll on this and those the jury found who were to blame, why not them? Of course that was tried back in the Nick Tracy day over sexual harassment when he was the GM but the Marine Employees Commission said he couldn't be fired as a Captain and received back pay and loss of overtime. WSF can't even fire someone when they are negligent in their duties that cost thousands, even millions of taxpayer dollars. Union protection and the MEC at their finest. PRIVATIZE is the only answer. It would save millions of dollars in taxpayer money annually.

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trucker45 said on May 11, 2010 at 3:00 PM

In private industry being in a union would not save your job if a jury found you had done something to a fellow employee which caused the company huge amounts of money. Luckily for these engineer's they have a government job where the company does not have to make a profit. They can just raise rates, taxes and fees to keep the money rolling in. With the financial condition the ferry system is sailing into now maybe the days of huge paychecks and self imposed overtime are over. Ha, who am I trying to kid there will be no end to this.

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runner693 said on May 11, 2010 at 12:36 PM

The WA state auditors are, by and large,honest. Brian Sontag is a good man, albeit, a democrat. That's not the problem. The problem is that the powers that be only agreed to let the auditor audit if his findings are not binding. i.e. look all you want, but don't expect us to upset the corrupt apple cart or disturb any of our union campaign contributors. The (state) fox guarding the (taxpayer) henhouse. All the more reason why the state should not be directly involved in anything that looks like a business (cocktails, anyone?) or handles business-like revenue. Corruption becomes bureaucratized.

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imawed said on May 11, 2010 at 11:39 AM

Dipping into the proverbial cookie jar at WSF has been ongoing for many years and it runs far deeper than what's being reported here. Every few years a new Ferry Director gets conveniently "appointed" to the position. They generally know nothing of transportation needs or the maritime industry but they do have some kind of connection which got them appointed. The staff that supports the director (Port Captains, Port Engineers, Dock Agents) are well aware of where all the cookie-crums lead however, being part of the good 'ol boys network, hold a creed of silence. This smacks of a kick-back scheme. Also, there's more than one cookie jar out there for dipping whereby there's nary a crumb left behind. Perhaps an independent audit, running back some 10 years on SCE, should be conducted. They can start by looking in their own cookie chest at home and note the treasure of tools they find. But then; the state hires the auditors that in turn, look for the money and... oh... never mind.

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sunlover said on May 11, 2010 at 11:14 AM

2.5 million in punitive damages. In the real world people responsible for such settlements in lawsuits probably would be terminated, demoted, sent packing unless I guess you are in the banking real world. The jury found that Nitchman and Phillips created 'something' that caused them to award punitive damages. WSF generally settles out of court as all government agencies do. Why not this one? By not settling all of this lawsuit will come out now that Susannah Frame has embarked on her next career to work over WSF. Maybe WSF should hire her to keep her quiet. Off shore engineers do not come close to making this kind of money and tWSF ones are going home each and every night. WSF may have one of the largest ferry systems in the world, but their access to money may be as large. Taxpayers foot the bill every year. Only Vashon and the San Juans are trapped. It would be cheaper to buy residents a new car every year and let them drive around. PRIVATIZE!!

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david_mack said on May 11, 2010 at 11:12 AM

But let us NOT ignore the fact that KING5's crack news team of Suzie Frame & camaraman created a "Breach of Security" @ WSF's Kingston dock to get this story or non-interview of Mr. Nitchman. They evaded dock protocall & common sense when they allowed themselves to the employee or secure area of Kingston dock. I would have hoped that Kitsap Co. Sheriff's were called, since IF Joe Citizen or John Q. Public did this they would be arrested, questioned & refered to the Dept. of Homeland Security. So much for WSF protecting their employees reguardless of accusations by KING5. That is why WSF has paid spokespersons. What would KING5 had to have report if Mr. Nitchman got off the vessel in Edmonds like most of the rest of his crew ?? I was even more offended by Ms. Frame's comment about it being "her" camaraman. Was this employee of KING5 sold into slavery of sorts ??

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ethicscount said on May 11, 2010 at 10:15 AM

The guy on duty should be fixing it. Reality check needs to happen - they are not protecting the system, they are doing their job which they are getting paid to do. If they are the only ones who can do the job and oversee drydock work we have a bigger issue, perhaps as big as their egos. mcnitch...hmm Mark C Nitchman perhaps?

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runner693 said on May 11, 2010 at 10:09 AM

Hey, time out here children. Mcnitch, you've posted what?.... 4 times on just this story? The facts are you lost in court. Get over it. Well, actually, YOU apparently didn't lose anything. We, the taxpayers lost $2.7 mil because of your mismanagement. And the story headline says that the warnings go unheeded?? Get real. If the WA state auditor finds ferry workers with their hands in the till on virtually every audit, and nothing happens, does anyone think the WSF is going to pay any attention to KING5 or a little court ruling? Let's try this again: Sell the ferry system to 2-3 best qualified bidders. Pay down the state revenue budget gap. Let the new owners make a profit from ferry ops. I guarantee that well managed businesses, with a private equity stake will do a better job than the state, of managing the whole operation. I also guarantee that the involved unions and most of their members will HATE this idea. Because they are fleecing us and they don't want anything to stop it.

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rdog0121 said on May 11, 2010 at 9:46 AM

diesel82 I hope you're not the one working on boats I ride on...you can't even spell or use words in their correct context and you are telling others to "go get educated?" apparently, you dropped out after 1st grade! Read your post again. I found at least 5 spelling mistakes!

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mcnitch said on May 11, 2010 at 9:40 AM

Actually I do remember a Staff Chief putting in for overtime pay in the shipyard and subsequently being demoted because he could not demonstrate that he did any work for it. There were no entries in the engine room logs for days, there was no machinery history filled out, in fact a proper machinery history for the ship did not even exist, there were no work requests or any of the other administrative evidence of activity. A tour of the engine room showed it to be in a state of disrepair, the ship had a poor reliability history in spite of having a very senior crew. Obviously there was something wrong Two of the named Staff Chiefs in your articles were managers at the time. They investigated the claims and determined that there was cause for discipline. The Staff Chief was demoted to Chief Engineer. So the very people you accuse of cheating the system can actually demonstrate a history of protecting it going back more than a decade.

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david_mack said on May 11, 2010 at 9:23 AM

The answers to ALL your questions on this & other abuses within WSF can be answered this evening in quaint downtown Kingston, just 2 blocks from the ferry dock. Please take this opportunity to join your fellow taxpayers & ask the ' hard ' questions of WSF management. Meeting starts @ 18:30 with Special Guests David Moseley, Stephen Rodgers, Mark Nitchman & a pack of other truth tellers sent there just to answer YOUR questions. Meeting is being held @ the Kingston Library building to hold ALL those sticky $$$$ questions.

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mcnitch said on May 11, 2010 at 9:21 AM

And how did marabel claim the Staff Chiefs were padding their pay in the trial? By recieving overtime for phone calls made from the ship to their homes when they were off duty. No Staff Chief I know of has ever recieved payments for phone calls inspite of recieving many dozen per year. This claim is demonstrably false and can be verified every two weeks when all Staff Chief Engineer time cards are reviewed by management personnel from two different organizations. Susan can be there. In fact the only time I am ever aware of a like situation was when a relief person put in for phone calls he made preparing for a job on a ferry. When it was determined he was not entitled to the payment he paid it back. Staff Chiefs do not recieve such pay but as hourly employees are entitled to it. Of course the alternative is they can just not answer their phones. When the boat breaks the guy on duty can take care of it or they can call out that Jiffy lube guy and his banjo bolt thing.

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fingeroftruth said on May 11, 2010 at 8:33 AM

I have a request of Susan, Why don't you pull the public records of the staff chiefs and other greedy Ferry workers that retired and see how many of them are earning over 100K a year, that the taxpayers will have to pay for another 20 to 30 years. The money they are stealing now will keep on draining us for a long time. Well at least they can go hang they heads in shame on some nice beach drinking pina colada while our grand children help pay for their continued lifestyle!!!

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fingeroftruth said on May 11, 2010 at 8:13 AM

The problem is in management, and of course Staff Chiefs are Management. The structure of the port engineers office is a kingdom all to itself. The Port Engineers are in charge of discipline of the engine dept, payroll for the engine department as to disputing or approving and appointing the Staff Chiefs and of course all those special projects. The problem has been going on for years. It is amazing how an assistant engineer can go into the office, become the head port engineer and then appoint himself staff chief and come back to the fleet...like Mark Nitchman did. Susan has just begun to scratch the surface of the corruption and abuse that lives in the offices of WSF. Their is untold law suits and OEO cases against the port engineers. And as for disiel82, who is defending Staff Chiefs...There are no spark plugs on a diesel engine...I hope you're not a staff chief:) No one from the fleet should ever be allowed in the office to hold a position of authority over people they work with.

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ethicscount said on May 11, 2010 at 8:00 AM

It seems to me that once Marable retired, the boys knew they could really pad their pockets. I'm sure Marable hoped the WSEEB would investigate the whole system not just the travel time allegations - that was just to get it started, obviously they didn't, they went through the motions or they would have found out what Channel 5 has. diesel82 I agree a staff chief should be there during drydock, but it doesn't need to be the one who will pull triple time, and according to mcnitch Chief Phillips can write so he should be documenting all the gremlins you refer to so any chief knows the ins and outs of the vessel. They shouldn't get paid extra, it's their job to keep the boats running without malfunctioning, and if they can't they should be fired that's what happens in the private sector. McNitch Phillips sounds impressive, but it still doesn't mean he is an ethical man. diesel82 have someone review your text first or use spellcheck before you post.

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paulharvey said on May 11, 2010 at 7:50 AM

If there is any wrongdoing or negligence here, it is with WSF management. Employees do not create the system that they work under. If any employees are "working the system" then it is management's fault for creating and maintaining the system. Every dollar of overtime that is paid must be approved by management. When the engine room employee got a doctors verification that he was allergic to the chemical, that should have been the end of that. It doesn't matter that WSF believes the chemical to be safe at that point. A jury will believe the doctor, as they should, and WSF management should have known that.

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mcnitch said on May 11, 2010 at 7:40 AM

Actually tiggerme2, overtime makes great sense in private companies and in state government as well. It allows management to avoid hiring additional employees, paying additional benefits and paying for additional training. Most big unions, ours included oppose excessive overtime because it reduces the number of employees. Unions favor more employees over more overtime and this is precisely why many unions have no mandatory overtime clauses in their contracts. This is also why we recieve higher hourly compensation for overtime, to disincentivize the use of it by management and force the hiring of additional workers. WSF already reduces the number of maintenance labor hours in the shipyards by 60%. Just how much maintenance labor should be cut when the ship goes in for maintenance?

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tiggerme2 said on May 11, 2010 at 7:18 AM

diesel82, I am so glad that you think that you are one of the few that can do this job! If DOUG PHILLIPS AND MARK NITCHMAN were such great staff chiefs, then they would train the engineers under them to be able to do their jobs in their absence. There is no excuse for such excessive overtime in ANY COMPANY!

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diesel82 said on May 11, 2010 at 7:13 AM

sunlover, i think you got to much of it. it is obviouis that you have never gone to the shipyard to drydock (take out of water) a boat before for maintinence. somebody who has crewed the boat and knows all the ins, outs and little gremlins that are hiding in the systems needs to be there to delegate and ensure that certain procedures are up the cfr/ uscg regulations, know tell me who better than the person who has been directly responsible for that vessel(the go to guy when the boat experiences problems) THE STAFF CHIEFS. and tell me again why they should not be payed extra when they do this work again and again and agian with no malfunctions. there is no pay padding or blank checks. again get educated. go change the spark plugs on your diesel, idiot

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mcnitch said on May 11, 2010 at 7:10 AM

So who is Staff Chief Engineer Phillips? He is a graduate of the US Coast Guard Academy. He seved during Vietnam aboard ship and was a marine safety officer. At WSF he has the best reliability record of any Staff Chief Engineer in it's 60 year history. His ships have not missed a single trip for mechanical reasons for nearly 10 years, approximately 90,000 trips across Puget Sound with no break downs. Phillips has the highest level of technical expertise with digital propulsion controls in the fleet. He is the author of the SOLAS approved Safety Management System for the engine rooms. He is the co-author of the only successfully delivered fuel conservation program at WSF which saves millions of dollars in fuel each year and reduces the frequency our engines need to be overhauled. He co-authored the technical study which scrapped plans to install an unreliable control system on most WSF vessels saving the state hundreds of million in capital, reliability and injuries. Much more!

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mikee1899 said on May 11, 2010 at 7:08 AM

Start at the top and clean house. Outside investigators need to do the chore and if they find mismanagement or other problems terminate the individuals involved.

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cajaschroeder182 said on May 11, 2010 at 7:05 AM

Why isn't anyone questioning the size of the settlement? 2.7 million dollars? Where did that number come from, did he have huge medical expenses, lost wages? Our legal system needs to start looking at fair settlements for these lawsuits.

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jackwong said on May 11, 2010 at 5:31 AM

Whoever that reads this and thinks it's outrage just has no experience with how the workplace works. It may sound like a crime, but it really is not. It is just a way of giving perks to the employees. Consider it a way to keep great talent to serve the people of the Pac-NW.

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clear2copy said on May 11, 2010 at 2:42 AM

Make the paycheck padding employees pay back their illegitimate earnings.. done.

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mcnitch said on May 11, 2010 at 12:49 AM

No investigation? Did you not read the Washington State Executive Ethics board report #03-001 dated Jan 31, 2003? The WSEEB recieved a "whistleblower" complaint that "A Staff Chief Engineer may have used his position to submit and recieve travel reimbursement to which he is not entitiled". The WSEEB investigated the allegation, interviewing all parties. The WSEEB concluded at the end of it's investigation "We determined there is no reasonable cause to believe an improper governmental action occurred". At trial Marable testified that he filed a "whistelblower" complaint with the WSEEB in 2002. He testified that he was interviewed twice by the WSEEB investigator Sivertson. The WSEEB report was issued 1-1-03. The simple fact is that Staff Chief Engineer "pay padding" allegations were investigated by the State of Washington Auditors Office at the time they were made and found to be without merit.

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sunlover said on May 10, 2010 at 11:59 PM

This story is being spun by the news and what; being justified by those who are paid this astronomical overtime and triple time. I don't really care what is said, but you do not make more in overtime than your base salary as Doug, Ben, Mark and others have. This is a better story than the deck crews travel time and mileage; and the same thing from those who worked the system; trying to justify these wages! WSF personnel go home most times at night, not like off shore who are stuck or those who work the Alaska Ferries who are on for 2 weeks. Alaska Ferry workers are paid less than WSF. Hmmmm, who has the cushy job. But for a jury to award punitive damages and no one is held accountable shows the lack of leadership within WSDOT. Same old story; shhhhhh, maybe it will go away. Not this time. People reading this and watching this on King 5 are really troubled by these HUGE wages paid to a small group of Staff Chiefs. It is more fun to watch the 'no comment' from those involved.

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diesel82 said on May 10, 2010 at 10:16 PM

i hope people realize how much this story is being spun so susana can get good ratings. these men (staff chiefs) DO NOT STEAL THIER SALARY THEY EARN IT.ships arent serviced like you do when you take youre prius to jiffy lube to get youre oil changed by a grease monkey that dosent know a banjo fitting from a musical instrument. Marable may have worked on ferries for a long time that dosent mean hes "the most experienced engineer at wsf" i know this to be fact, hes a creep who was looking for for easy money , NOT LIKE DOUG PHILLIPS AND MARK NITCHMAN who work for it.. id say susana and the rest of the ignorent people should go down and see if they could run a 16000hp 4160v $150,000,000 coast gaurd regulated power plant and not miss a single trip. this is truly pathedic, shame on you, get educated, dont speak about something you have no clue about.

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sunlover said on May 10, 2010 at 10:07 PM

What happened to Ken Marable is truth. He was a dedicated Chief Engineer who was driven out by the Ben Davis's, Mark Nitchman's, Doug Phillips or as you said those circling the wagons protecting their huge $$ nitch at WSF. I don't believe the AG's office warned anyone to stay away unless Queen Chrissy is still the AG. Maybe the Governor's office did because Moseley's wife is the Queen's friend. I love the fact he has been there two years and the only thing I hear him say is "I didn't know". He wouldn't know cuz he spends too much time in Olympia smoozing with the politicals. WSF has been doing this for years under everyone's watch all the way back to the 70's. But when you make it to Staff Chief the pay check is wide open. If they sleep on board and the boat burps, the other watch is required to wake them up for 12 hours of overtime. They are assigned special projects so every other week they are on overtime working for the Port Engineers office.

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