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Refund held up on appeal that was never filed

by JESSE JONES / KING 5 News

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Posted on May 3, 2010 at 10:00 PM

Updated Monday, May 3 at 9:41 PM

Marietta Thompson bought a cute little Everett home. It has everything, including room to let her dog run.

Before moving in, she rented a duplex just down the street. The property managers were Century 21 North Homes out of Everett.

"I have to tell you that property manager is the worst I've ever dealt with," she said.

Needless to say, things didn't go well when Marietta moved out and didn't get her security deposit. She took Century 21 to Snohomish County Small Claims Court and won a $789 judgment.

"I felt good. It made me happy," she said.

Century 21 had 30 days to file an appeal or pay the judgment. Neither happened.

"Then I just heard nothing," Marietta said.

She even called to see where the check would be.

So I went to the Century 21 office and was told property manager Gwen Cannon did file an appeal.

"I don't want this to be an example for another case that might happen in court where tenants feel like they should get their deposits back in breaking the lease," she said.

Branch manager Michael Moore sent me an e-mail with the appeal documents Ms. Cannon said she signed and filed.

I sent them right away to the top executives with Snohomish County Superior and District courts. They wrote back saying the same thing. There was no appeal from Century 21.

So I asked Gwen Cannon again if she filed that appeal and she said yes.

But when I submitted proof the appeal was never filed, she argued: "I did file an appeal, yes, I did."

Moore suggested it wasn't her fault.

"Jesse, it could be as simple as the court doesn't know where the piece of paper is?" he said.

I went to speak with Michael Larson. He is a real estate attorney with 25 years of experience and serves on the Washington State Bar Association's executive committee for real property. We thought he might know about the world of disappearing appeals as he has filed hundreds of appeals.

We asked how many have been lost.

"None. Never had it happen," he said.

Ms. Cannon's explanation on the missing appeal: She was given the wrong paperwork, followed by bad information from a clerk.

"She said, no, all you have to do is fill out the paperwork and leave it with me, so that's what I did," she explained.

She saved one last shot for the judge.

"I'm saying that the judge, who even ordered her security deposit back, the judge is wrong," she said.

Less than a week after this interview, Mariette got a check in the mail for $789.

"I feel wonderful," she said.

Appeal documents have to be officially stamped by the court, and those filing appeals must post a bond equal to twice the amount of the judgment and pay $260 in fees.

I asked Century 21 North Homes if they had a copy of their receipts from the court. I'm still waiting for a response.

For consumer concerns, e-mail Jesse at getjesse@king5.com or call toll-free 877-51-JESSE.

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abigal said on May 5, 2010 at 9:19 PM

Jesse, during your "research", at any time did you get a copy of the lease i.e. Legal Document, that Marietta Thompson signed? I have one, and it states that if a tenant leaves before the term is up, they are NOT entitled to a security deposit refund. By the way, these are normal terms of rental agreements. Marietta Thompson vacated before the lease was up, and was not entitled to the refund, period. This is not about an appeal not being filed. The story should be about an incomptetent judge not enforcing a legally binding contract that Marietta Thompson signed. It looks like you went into this "story" with an agenda using King 5 as the baseball bat. How much does this hurt the owner of the property, to have a vacancy and then have to fork over the funds meant to cover it? Or is that not a good enough story? Jesse, will you be going to bat for the owner now?

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truth2 said on May 5, 2010 at 5:03 PM

I did some research about this case because i was saying what wrong with this picture. So i went to the source and ask my own question. I also went to a website and found out that this Marietta love going to court. I wonder JJ did you really do your Job?

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jd5545 said on May 5, 2010 at 12:23 PM

If the landlord gave her a written notice of why the deposit was denied they do not owe her the 3x refund. IF they gave her no notice and just kept the deposit then they do. Deposits are more critical to tenants then they are to landlords unless some actual financial damages have occured by an irresponsible tenant. It's a best practice for landlords to make an honest effort to refund all deposits in full. No piddling little 35 dollar charges for unclean stove, missing light bulb etc. No refund if a carpet is damaged, a door is broken, the place was painted orange, or the tenant broke the lease by moving out with no notice. A bigger issue would be is that cities should make leases illegal and only allow rental contracts on a month to month basis. A lease favors the rich. And give the landlords a benefit back by making it easier to do one day evictions of domestic violence abusers and drug abusers.

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jd5545 said on May 5, 2010 at 12:17 PM

new century 21 agents will know little about courts and landlord tenant law. It requires some experience. Thus I think a better approach here would have been to look at the errors of both sides and see what can be learned. Implying that a lawyer should be consulted before small claims court defeats the purpose of the court. The lawyer fee will be 3-400 dollars. It's easier then to just settle out of court. IF you wish to hold the c21 to strict court procedures, publish the actual issue here. Why was the tenant not given the deposit back? I can tell you right away then if their decision was reasonable. I am not sure I really trust the judges and the clerk system having dealt with them a lot. They let bias and unhelpfulness creep into their decisions. the cost of this will be that other tenants will just be dealt with more business like and professionally. If they get in a jam they will be sol. There is no room for kindness in the business or in the reporting.

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truth2 said on May 5, 2010 at 11:06 AM

Very odd. Are you guys experts on Lanlord Tenants laws. Look like to me a case of Black mail. That just my opinion. Bad Judgement.

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hourforum said on May 4, 2010 at 9:40 PM

State law requires a landlord to refund and OR/ show cause for not returning a deposit to the renter- no more than 14 days from the move out. If Century 21 in fact did not file papers with the court, the law still stands. By virtue that Century 21 filed or said they filed papers with the cout- that means right away they had no willingness to repay this deposit. The woman in the story could have by law had a refund three times the ammount of her deposit-. It does not seem that she asked for that. Meanwhile, Renters be ware- there are slum lord's out there that take your deposit and run. The state should go after these slum lords. Century 21 on the other hand- really should be ashamed , duck their head and put the closed sign on their door. " closed, and out of business, for not repaying a renters deposit". That would be honest- wouldn't it?

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jessejones said on May 4, 2010 at 9:18 PM

immrfixit, I hear what you are saying. But Century 21 lost their case in court. That means Century 21 may believe it is right, but the company is obligated to either pay the judgment or file an appeal. Months after the decision, Century 21 did neither. jd5545, Century 21 waited too long to be walked through the system. They had 30 days to appeal. That did not happen. Again, Century 21 lost its case. A lawyer can't appear in court for small claims, but nothing was stopping the company from getting advice from one to help file an appeal. Jesse Jones

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america said on May 4, 2010 at 6:46 PM

I can't help, but think, if the judge ordered Century 21; North Homes Realty to pay the $789, then...they lost. Trying to take advantage of a Little Ole Lady? What Scum-Bags!!! Hey, I want them to try to cheat me on my next home deal too!!!!!!!!!! Get-em Jessie!!!!!! You can get all of your agents to write comments in the section below to try to obfuscate the truth, but, then there's the $789.00. Ha!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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immrfixit said on May 4, 2010 at 5:47 PM

I have a strange feeling that while not being exempt of wrong-doing or poor followup and customer relations, that Century 21 may have received a skewed presentation on Jesse's "spot". For instance, if the lease or rental agreement was broken by the lady, the deposit IS NOT unconditionally returned. Just the presence of a pet in the property dictates that the rental unit is OBLIGATED to be fumigated prior to renting to the next tenant. Could it be there was a portion of the deposit to be retained for that?? I didn't hear Jesse ask anything that specific. The property management company is under contract with the OWNER to protect the owner's interest in the property and to prevent inordinate damage and crippling costs as a result of tenant damages or forfeitures. Additionally, the property managment company DOES NOT get the $790 dollars...that was held in a separate account in Ms. Thompson's name for the OWNER by the property management company. Just enough facts to make a TV spot:(

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1beachperson said on May 4, 2010 at 11:23 AM

cmeeverett - Everett Court is different from Snohomish County Superior or District courts - just get your facts straight. If they're so bad at Snohomish County, why is this the first and only time an appeal has been lost. Century 21 is filled with liars and cheats. They don't want to admit they're wrong, so they'll blame the courts, the judge, and even the poor lady waiting for her refund. Just step up and admit when you're wrong or made a mistake!

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jd5545 said on May 4, 2010 at 11:08 AM

I asked Century 21 North Homes if they had a copy of their receipts from the court. I'm still waiting for a response. Jesse why not just be a decent person and walk the c21 lady through the process with her at court so you both learn something. I think she may have just made an honest mistake and trusted the clerks at the court. Something that is not wise to do. Find out where she made her mistake. In general landlords should always refund the deposit unless something really egregious has happened to the tenancy. And in general tenants should try and stick to the terms of their agreement unless life has given them a rough term. Some landlords get jaded enough that they charge for wear and tear and hide the reasoning hoping the tenant will give up. some tenants get into the habit of asking for extensions, payment delays etc that they intrude on any persons good graces.

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jd5545 said on May 4, 2010 at 10:59 AM

Normally I like the Jesse clips. This one seemed odd to me. It seems like important facts were being left out in order to make a story. I got the impression Jesse was using his bully to help a person take advantage of a business. 1. Why was her deposit return denied? She failed to give proper notice when she found a better deal? 2. why was it not pointed out that lawyers are not allowed in small claims court and then a lawyer was used to obscure that fact and tilt the piece. 3. The clerks office routinely tells you that will intake your paperwork only to find on court date they send nothing to the judge. It's a learning process. 4. Judges are routinely biased in these types of cases against landlords if they find a slight technicality. 5. The fact that c21 appeared on TV means they had enough good will to believe they had done the right thing. I came away thinking this lady was a crook that Jesse assisted in her crime. I would need to see more info to make a better judgment.

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gofigureit said on May 4, 2010 at 9:32 AM

Why that lady continued to lie was unbelievable! Century 21 will be forever (more) tainted for those who see this.

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scott_bellevue said on May 4, 2010 at 6:46 AM

Great job, Jesse! Way to go.

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tugthug said on May 4, 2010 at 6:03 AM

I can't help but notice the Centry 21 sign in the picture that says "2 agents needed" now that's funny!

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cmeeverett said on May 4, 2010 at 3:12 AM

Look, if you have a reputation in Snohomish County Courts of being an abuser... paperwork has a way of getting "lost". These minimum wage ladies filing this paperwork have a way of "losing it", trust me. The same thing happened to me when i told the (everett) clerk i was fighting a questionable traffic citation & told her i had a top official from DOT to testify in my behalf. Next thing i knew, court dates were crossed & my case dismissed. Dang, i was all set up to take the city of everett to court. The judge lowered his specs, looked at me & asked, "is dismissal of this case sufficient?" i replied, "uhm...yeah, sure." Trust me i was psyched to go to court, i had a top official to back me up. Funny how the court dates were "mixed" & the case dismissed. Something fishy going on, but i recommend anyone who has to go to an Everett Court, do so IN PERSON, (do not mail it in) & keep their paperwork.

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