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A favorite Northwest seafood could be deadly to your dog

by NATASHA RYAN / KING 5 News

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Posted on October 15, 2011 at 5:26 PM

Updated Saturday, Oct 15 at 6:20 PM

SEATTLE - Daisy is eager to investigate the sounds and smells of the park.  Just glancing at her, you wouldn't know Daisy's still recovering, but if you look closer, the signs of her struggle to live are visible.

"How loose she is, she lost a lot of weight,” said Amy Greger. “She did not eat at all for a week, very little water.”

There were multiple trips to the vet.

"They did ultrasound, x-ray, trying to figure out what it was, still nothing conclusive," said Amy.

Until a specialist asked one key question: Had Daisy eaten any fish?

"It was like three, three-and-a-half weeks before symptoms showed up. We had salmon for dinner,” said Wiktor Greger.

"I had a little piece of raw salmon on the plate and I thought oh, I'll just give it to her. She wolfed it down, was all happy and everything was fine."

The Gregers had never heard of salmon poisoning.

"Have quite a few friends who fish and no one knew anything,” said Wiktor.

Dr. Cherie Guidry of Helping Hands Vet Clinic says most people don't know not to feed dogs raw fish.

"If left untreated, 90 percent of the cases are fatal, the dogs will die within 2-3 weeks,” she said.

After weeks of antibiotics and de-worming treatments, it’s safe to say you won't find salmon in the Greger's kitchen, but you will find their survivor.

If your dog gets a hold of raw salmon get to the vet. And remember, sometimes the symptoms take weeks to show up and there are other dangerous fish.

MORE INFORMATION

Get more information about salmon poisoning in the Pet Dish blog by Dr. Cary Waterhouse of Lake Union Veterinary Clinic.

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JJ2 said on October 27, 2011 at 6:16 AM

I had fed my English Bull Terrier salmon for a couple of years with no ill effects until one time she became terribly sick. Not all salmon carry the parasite so you never know when they'll get sick. She made a full recovery (with vet help) but it was pretty bad. The fish was home smoked after a saline brine which says a lot of the toughness of the parasites.

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misty5 said on October 17, 2011 at 11:34 PM

Even if you live in Alaska it is STUPID to feed raw fish to a dog.Even without a parasite raw fish of any kind is not good-Just don't take the chance if you care for your dog's health.

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stonetrails said on October 17, 2011 at 11:42 AM

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So why don't these microbial gyro-gesticulations harm people? Are all people immune or do some humans get sick too?

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drichey said on October 17, 2011 at 10:48 AM

We almost lost our lab several years ago when she ate some raw crab from an ocean beach. So I don't think it's just raw salmon thats dangerous to dogs.

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eagle86 said on October 17, 2011 at 10:15 AM

Why would anyone feed their dog salmon in the first place?

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hannah said on October 16, 2011 at 8:49 PM

the dogs that eat salmon in Alaska don't get sick because the parasite that causes the illness lives in snails that we have in the North West . the fish eat the snails then carrie the parasite then the dogs eat the fish with the parasite and then get sick from the parasite. Alaskan salmon don't have this parasite.

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mlloyd said on October 16, 2011 at 6:33 PM

My Staffies LOVE Salmon, but it is ALWAYS cooked. I eat a lot of it and share it with my dogs. I don't eat the skin, so it is broiled and cooked, then it comes off and they get that, plus anything else that I don't eat, they get,. I certainly hope cooking it properly kills the parasite, because I don't like frozen foods and never freeze it.

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whatsyurbeef said on October 16, 2011 at 4:23 PM

And then you have the meatheads who eat raw fish it's a trendy thing don't ya know.

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baristababy said on October 16, 2011 at 4:12 PM

ExhaustedSpark, i think the moral of this story is to be careful and watch what your dog takes in. i have seen several dogs in my 32 years here get sick, and a handful of them die from salmon poisoning. i worked in a vets office where it was common to see dogs come in with this type of poisoning, so believe me, it's real!

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techwillfail said on October 16, 2011 at 3:04 PM

Freezing the salmon kills the parasite Freezing (-20ºC [-4ºF] or below [internal or external] for 7 days or –35ºC [-31ºF] or below [internal] for 15 hours) of fish intended for raw consumption also kills parasites. The Food Code recommends these freezing conditions to retailers who provide fish intended for raw consumption. Brining and pickling may reduce the parasite hazard in a fish, but they do not eliminate it, nor do they minimize it to an acceptable level. Nematode larvae have been shown to survive 28 d in 80º salinometer brine (21% salt by weight). Trimming away the belly flaps of fish or candling and physically removing parasites are effective methods for reducing the numbers of parasites. However, they do not completely eliminate the hazard, nor do they minimize it to an acceptable level (FDA, 1998).” FDA guidelines for freezing fish to kill parasites. Freeze and store at -4°F (-20°C) or below for 7 days (total time); or Freeze at -31°F (-35°C) or below un

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kingster said on October 16, 2011 at 2:39 PM

Well, is it the fish itself or parasites the fish carry in their body that hurts the dog? I have always known not to feed fish to dogs.

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ExhaustedSpark said on October 16, 2011 at 12:08 PM

There sure is a lot of know it alls in this group. I grew up in south east Alaska. I was told over 50 years ago not to feed salmon to dogs. I saw many dogs eat fish and saw many people feed the same to their dogs with no ill effects. I thought it was a myth and still wonder if it is just a small % of dogs that it effects. There is salmon on the shores all over the coast. If you dont think your dog eats it when you let it run on the beach your are living in the state of denial. I have yet to hear of Dead Dogs dying by the hundres because of it.

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jennifercalahan2 said on October 16, 2011 at 10:43 AM

If your going to own a dog, you should always research the good and bad foods just like any other animal....just because its a dog does not mean it can eat everything...and for the vet...why would he not have done a test instead of waiting for a week...all owners should have known this from the beginning...you would not feed your child raw chicken...because you know it's bad...do some research and at least when your dog does get sick you will know the signs and how to treat Salmon poisoning...my dogs have all had salmon poisoning...I live by a river...but I know how to treat them with meds from the local PET STORE...hydration is also key.

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nmdiaz58 said on October 16, 2011 at 9:05 AM

This happened to BIg.. It was less than 3 hours before his symptons started. Got him straight to the vet, had we waited over night he would have died.. He got to a salmon walking along the Dungeness River. Seems to happen during fall, know several dogs this has happen to, and not with the same outcome.

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alltogethernow said on October 16, 2011 at 8:43 AM

Dogs have been eating raw salmon for centuries without any ill effects. Perhaps Puget Sound salmon is so polluted that it's a health hazard (?) to the local pampered pouches of greater Seattle...

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photodivainwa said on October 16, 2011 at 1:42 AM

A dog that has been treated with antibiotics during the fever stage...and the ones that survive the disease have a lifelong immunity....hence the dogs of Alaska that are fed such. Smoked salmon is NOT cooked all the way and should NOT be fed to your dog. Beware of not-so-dog friendly neighbors of throwing a store bought salmon over to your dog. It has happened to my dog. She was treated that week and was asymptomatic. If you live in rural areas, beware of people throwing carcasses out in the woods. The flesh near the backbone, blood and entrails are the culprits that later cause a full blown deady disease.

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anticap said on October 15, 2011 at 11:53 PM

Sushi, anyone?

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mazze6011 said on October 15, 2011 at 9:18 PM

@baristababy You are so right, I have lived in western Washington my whole life, as kids we were told never let a dog eat raw salmon, internal organs or let them even lick them. Dog's up north in Alaska, northern Canada, Sibera, Norway ect....do eat fish & it is usually frozen & raw, they have probably developed immunity over the years.

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alkinative said on October 15, 2011 at 9:08 PM

It's only RAW salmon that's a danger, and it's only dangerous to dogs. Cats can eat fresh raw salmon with impunity (and much smugness). Dogs can eat properly cooked or smoked salmon without harm, barring other issues. The "germ" that occurs in some raw salmon (not all) can kill a dog within a day or two, never mind a week. And it only takes a drop or two of dripped salmon blood, licked off a concrete driveway . I think the Alaskan Huskies don't get it because they're fed previously frozen fish, and freezing kills the deadly bug. Glad that this issue is gaining wider exposure. Fish is great for your dogs -- just not fresh raw salmon!

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aziza said on October 15, 2011 at 8:08 PM

Thank you baristababy! This is common knowledge for us NW natives. Know the area you live in folks.

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Barbara_Corf25c said on October 15, 2011 at 7:47 PM

Oh.. my goodness.. I live in Pikes Place Market.. and I walk my dog down there every single day.. We walk through the market,, down torward the Fish Market.. and they usually give away samples of smoked salmon.. and my little Jenny Craig usually gets a bite full or 2. I'm now glad it is smoked, and not raw.. Thank You for letting us all know about this.. I had no idea about this...

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heligirl03 said on October 15, 2011 at 7:30 PM

Interesting...sled dogs up North have been eating salmon (usually frozen heads/tails/fins, the parts people don't eat) for 100 years. This article really doesn't give any information other than "don't". Would like some empirical data? Like what exactly is the poisonous aspect???

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jojo2648 said on October 15, 2011 at 7:14 PM

This just happend to us a few weeks back, my fiance fishes and brough a salmon home and he cleaned it and obvioulsy, Kona our boxer, got ahold of it in the process. A week later she wasnt eating, drinking and just not her self. Same thing took her to our vet and had x-rays and all our vet could tell us was she had eaten something and it was obstructed and needed surgery, we were then sent to the ER (Sumner Hospital) for surgery and that is when the Dr. at the ER said she had no signs of anything being obstructed. He then starting asking questions and with in 15 minutes of us being there he figured it out and she had all the right symptoms. 48 hours in the hospital, and a few weeks later she is back to herself. If it would have gone a few more days without medication she would most likely would have died. Big thanks to Sumner Hospital!! I have been telling everyone that I know, and most people have never heard of this before

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agarmy said on October 15, 2011 at 6:04 PM

I don't have a dog, but I have two cats, and I never give them raw meat. Though, I wonder if this issue extends to cats as well, or if it is just isolated to dogs.

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baristababy said on October 15, 2011 at 5:45 PM

wow, we on the coast have known this FOREVER! ALWAYS keep salmon and their internal organs away from dogs!

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