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Atheists put ads on Seattle buses for holiday season

Atheists put ads on Seattle buses for holiday season

Ads with the slogan “1 in 4 is an atheist” are appearing on Seattle buses.

by KING 5 News

KING5.com

Posted on December 13, 2011 at 3:48 PM

Updated Wednesday, Dec 14 at 1:35 PM

SEATTLE – Few things direct us, define us and, sometimes, divide us like labels.

Especially religious ones.

This week you'll find a dozen metro buses sporting one of those labels: Atheist.

The Seattle Atheists have purchased ad space on 12 King County Metro bus routes. Four king-sized banner ads will show "everyday" scenes:  four hikers, four knitters, four commuters at a bus stop, and a family of four decorating a Christmas tree.

Each has the slogan, “One in 4 is an atheist” and includes a link to the campaign web page.

The groups cites the 2008 American Religion Identification Survey (ARIS), in which 25 percent of respondents from Washington picked "no religion" under the faith category.

Board member Ericka Johnson said the goal of the campaign is to encourage people to realize there are more "non-believers" than they are aware of, and to be willing to get to know them better.  The group also hopes to encourage closeted non-believers to express themselves.

"Just because someone says they're 'no religion' doesn't mean they're atheist, right?" asked Seattlite Roniq Bartanen.

The 2008 ARIS actually included agnostics, humanists, and secularists under the same category.  Nationally, only 0.7 percent of respondents identified themselves specifically as "atheist."

"But if all those people if they're without God that's what atheist means," Johnson said.

“Atheists are pretty much like everyone else,” said Eileen Cabalo of Seattle Atheists in a statement. “They’re bus drivers and engineers, baristas and doctors, smart people who take pride in their work, love their families, and appreciate the great things about America, just like religious people.”

In 2009, religious groups were in an uproar when Metro ran an atheist ad reading "Yes, Virginia, there is no God."

This year's ad campaign almost didn't happen, but for other reasons.

Last year, after a pro-Palestinian group tried to buy ad space for billboards referring to "Israeli War Crimes," King County Metro Transit passed a policy that banned anything advocating a political, religious or social opinion.

But then someone got through.

"We saw Mormon ads," said Johnson, referring to a recent ad blitz by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints showcasing a diverse group of individuals along with the phrase "I am Mormon."

A Metro spokesperson said those ads got the green light because they only stated facts, not positions.

In other words, the board decided "I am Mormon" is okay, while "Be a Mormon" would not have been.

Heartened by the news, Johnson said the Seattle Atheists moved forward with the plans.

The ads are scheduled to run through mid-January.

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Jennifer1117 said on December 18, 2011 at 7:19 PM

what gets me is how these comments are manipulated by a news station that used to stand for freedom of speech. But now stands for freedom of speech by our paid sponsors. I'll be surprised if this comment is posted. I left an innocent comment when this article first posted. I forgot and just looked thru 146 posts and mine is not there. I did not attack or even say anything controversial. What I said was totally a generic personal opinion. It was stupid for them to not allow it. This station sucks and so do whiners. I am going to coin that awesome statement someone said what was it "I asked God for a bike but I know he don't work that way. So I stole it and asked for forgiveness" that's so prophetic. Cause the powers that be including those who own this station have that same mentality. The sweeter the churchy voice is in my ear the faster I run the other way. In other words the more churchy the person the more dishonest they are and the more you have to watch your back ( or your kids)

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karnie said on December 16, 2011 at 7:30 PM

Who cares? Live your life as you see fit.....what others say or do will not change that.

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looking4sun said on December 15, 2011 at 10:52 AM

It is amazing to me that we still have to fight for the right of free speech in this country. If you are not a christian or you are not pro-life, you cannot have the same rights as those who believe that you should believe their point of view. If you want the right to speech as an atheist, then apparently you have to ask the Mormons to start up a campaign that cannot be stopped. However, if our bus system turns into religious public ads as an ad war, I will be extremely grateful to be the proud owner of two vehicles and not bother myself with the welfare of the busing system like I do now.

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1lacus said on December 15, 2011 at 9:30 AM

so kanajune, you see data, which is an attempt at an objective reality, but choose instead to believe your own biased subjective feeling on the subject. so very christian. and I imagine evolution is a myth, too, for you.

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kanajune said on December 15, 2011 at 9:16 AM

FACTS? I think the data is flawed. One in four may not attend a church, but that is not the same as being an atheist. I think the ad should be due to false advertising.

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stop_whining_1 said on December 15, 2011 at 1:13 AM

Thank You Bazwes. Agreed. Thank GOD for those good samaritans. Any athiests want to step up and claim something good they've done? Didn't think so. GOD BLESS all.

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bazwest said on December 14, 2011 at 10:42 PM

According to a few of the atheist ranters you might think that "believers" actually do no good in this world. How many soup kitchens, job training programs, rehab programs, housing assistance programs, humanitarian aid programs, hospitals, etc. are being run by atheist groups? That's easy none, or at least very few. How many are being run by religious/Christian groups? Religious groups are heavily involved in all of these programs. What would life be like for the truly needy without generous "believers" out there forgetting about self and serving "the least of these". "By their fruits ye shall know them."

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dakotanative said on December 14, 2011 at 10:27 PM

Wow, 139 comments. So, one out of four people do not list a religion. Doesn't mean they don't believe, just don't follow any certain belief. Five percent is probably a high number for non-believers, but it doesn't matter. If a small minority want to spend their money, great.

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stop_whining_1 said on December 14, 2011 at 8:37 PM

@1lacus- thats funny christians can do whatever we like and be forgiven. Because of jesus christ, A REAL PERSON WHO EXISTED IN HISTORY, we can be forgiven, true. But that does not mean god will not judge us. Because we believe in judgement day WE DO in fact live according to the word of god. Meaning we put others before ourselves and do what we can for our neighbors, like yourselves. Athiests should be happy christians are around them to help them when they are in need! All though I don't agree with you I know if needed I would help you out if your ever in need. As a christian I don't get to say, man thats that athiest that is always putting god down, no, I Don't think anything other than to help you! then as I walk away I will pray for mercy on your soul come your judgement day. What religion teaches people to hate eachother? Mine teaches tolerance of people like you, who creates anger and negativity.

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lotsofspareparts said on December 14, 2011 at 8:23 PM

AMEN LUTHOR!!!! LMFAO!!!! (all of the religious people.... ignore the sarcasm). ;-)

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lotsofspareparts said on December 14, 2011 at 8:20 PM

@ whatsyurbeef ......... was that a parable........ or just a mindless rambling comment?

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whatsyurbeef said on December 14, 2011 at 8:17 PM

A story of an old man who lived in the country in a simple cabin with a barn next to it filled with his animals. One night late he was awakened by noise in the barn, as he peered out he saw the barn was on fire. He ran to the barn opened the doors to show the animals the way to safety, much as he tried he could not get his pets from the fire to safety, they were confused and could not understand how to get away from the flames. The next morning the barn and animals were gone. The old man said to himself, if only I could have been one of them so I could have communicated to them how to reach safety from the fire.

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luthor said on December 14, 2011 at 7:12 PM

Imagine how much more peaceful the world could be without ANYONE (Christian, Muslim, Mormon, Agnostic, Atheist, etc.) Pushing their Choice down everyone's throat as the ONLY TRUTH !

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lotsofspareparts said on December 14, 2011 at 6:33 PM

I just don't understand the whole "higher power/God" thing. I believe that if a higher power really did exist, the entire world would all believe in the same being, and read from the same book (which was written by man BTW), not 20 different beings, and 20 different books (that were all written by man) God, Allah, Buddah, etc, etc. A few years ago someone told me that 95% of the worlds population believes in a "supreme being" in one form or another, my only retort was how sad it is for me and my family that we have to live in a world full of delusional people. My own belief is that God was invented to help control the masses, do this and you will burn, do that and you will burn, etc, etc. Will some of you really get 72 virgins when you die, because that is another advertised religious belief.

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mira82 said on December 14, 2011 at 5:49 PM

I'm just sayin... at least i'm not out there pushing my beliefs on others we all have our own opinions thank god for freedom...

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1lacus said on December 14, 2011 at 5:35 PM

Jesus is the way, like a GPS?

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mira82 said on December 14, 2011 at 5:18 PM

Jesus is the way....nothing against atheists it's just sad that they don't know jesus for i would be lost without him i'm just sayin...

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musicfreak said on December 14, 2011 at 3:36 PM

@adcpdx, that's unfortunate that your family is being so callous towards your own choice to not believe in a higher power. That's your right. Good luck with that, and good for you standing up for what's right for you.

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adcpdx said on December 14, 2011 at 2:50 PM

The ads are more for telling the public that there are more atheists out there than they may think...and that they likely even know one. There is a lot of intolerance by the religious (not just christians) towards atheists. My own family prefers to have nothing to do with me just because I am an athiest while they are strong conservative christians yet I have actually done nothing towards them or any other to deserve to be neglected by own family. The ads aren't saying "be an athiest". Some look at atheism like they do the LGBT community, something wrong and to be shunned. It's pretty sad actually. A little more tolerance in the world is what we need.

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1lacus said on December 14, 2011 at 2:40 PM

but for those of us, saynotolibs, that navigate the maelstrom with a lightness of feet, like Jesus walking on the water, unburdened by the weight of our past and the alpha and the omega. who aim for distance shores and rekindling of kindness and the greatness of man. that shiny city on the hill is Seattle my brother, and it is here, now, that we create the future.

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redsonrising said on December 14, 2011 at 2:33 PM

So 1 in 4 people believe that some people should not put their beliefs in your face unless those people are the 1 in 4. Is Seattle going to be Sodom or Gommorah? I will go with Sodom due to all the fudgepackers walking around.

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whatsyurbeef said on December 14, 2011 at 2:32 PM

You go to a special event in a pristine remote area in the high sierras and the first thing your ask at the front gate is, Where's your invitation ? You reply, I have no invitation, but the owners son invited me. A moment later the owner son, your best friend, arrives and tells the man at the gate, I know him, he's with me. Next the gate is opened for you and you're warmly welcomed.

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ponderer said on December 14, 2011 at 2:29 PM

Metro is just another bureaucracy that will never be understood (can't promote buying locally...but doesn't all advertising promote something?). But, beside this, I am a tad offended at Ericka Johnson calling me an atheist; I am an agnostic and prefer keeping an open mind and look for evidence rather than digging my heels into the sand and saying an absolute (fascinating how much the TEA party and the atheists have something in common).

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couchbull said on December 14, 2011 at 2:23 PM

I don't mind what religion or lack of religion people have. What I mind is when they tell me what I should and should not believe. I don't like funamentalist, evangelical Christians and I don't like fundamentalist, evangelical athiests. Other than that I could really care less what people believe.

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saynotolibs said on December 14, 2011 at 2:21 PM

Right you are @1lacus, the world is swirling down the drain of a giant white porcelin bowl.

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gotcha123 said on December 14, 2011 at 2:20 PM

Putting adds on buses seems like a waste of money. Than again Progressives and Unions have all the money.

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musicfreak said on December 14, 2011 at 2:17 PM

@btvsrks, I don't recall telling you how to celebrate anything. I was, like everyone else, discussing my views, not telling anyone what they *should* or *shouldn't* do. I was an Agnostic as recently as 3 years ago, I've been on both sides of this situation. As an Agnostic, yes, I still celebrated Christmas. Other than Santa Claus starting out as a Saint (St. Nicholas), I can't answer that question for you.

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1lacus said on December 14, 2011 at 2:12 PM

christians are only persecuted in the sense that the horse and the buggy was persecuted in the early 20th century, that is to say: the times they are a changing.

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wearedoomed said on December 14, 2011 at 2:02 PM

If I go to church on Sunday, my pastor will say that the devil is attacking Christians and we need to pray more than ever against the attacks. Be ready for more persecution against us, we must fight back and get christian leaders in government to stand against this. I'm going to watch football instead.

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digiwave said on December 14, 2011 at 1:43 PM

@musicfreak: You may not like that fact that Christmas has become a secular holiday, but the fact remains that it has been for a long time. I see you need a bit of information as well pertaining to Hanukkah. My wife is Jewish and we celebrate both Christmas and Hanukkah in non-religious ways. I have learned a lot about Judaism from my wife. Hanukkah is a secular holiday! From jewishvirtuallibrary.org: "Hanukkah s probably one of the best known Jewish holidays, not because of any great religious significance, but because of its proximity to Christmas. It is bitterly ironic that this holiday, which has its roots in a revolution against assimilation and suppression of Jewish religion, has become the most assimilated, secular holiday on our calendar. Hanukkah is not a very important religious holiday. The holiday's religious significance is far less than that of Rosh Hashanah, Yom Kippur, Sukkot, Passover, and Shavu'ot." Merry Christmas and Happy Hanukkah to all!

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btvsrcks said on December 14, 2011 at 1:40 PM

@musicfreak How does santa fit in to the birth of christ thing? Also, if christians stole the winter solstice holiday why can't non religious steal christmas and have it be secular? And some people, like me, are agnostic. Should I celebrate a family tradition or no? Sorry, but you don't have any right to tell me what I can and cannot do. No matter how much you think you do.

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janiceparker3818 said on December 14, 2011 at 1:36 PM

Since 1 in 4 is not a fact, but .07% is, these ads are fictional not factual and by Metros spokes persons definition should not be permitted. Why does this atheist group feel it necessary to stretch the truth and then promote that stretch? What is the point? And why at Christmas time?

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gotcha123 said on December 14, 2011 at 1:32 PM

Going to church doesn't make you a christian any more than standing in a garage makes you a car. Just sayin.

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gotcha123 said on December 14, 2011 at 1:29 PM

I asked God for a bike, but I know God doesn't work that way. So I stole a bike and asked for forgiveness.

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saynotolibs said on December 14, 2011 at 1:08 PM

@digiwave, all the more reason to get rid of it. I can't stand those Lexus commercials anyway.

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musicfreak said on December 14, 2011 at 1:04 PM

@monopolygone, you can't judge all Christians by one person on a message board. I'm a Christian and I would never treat someone the way that Kasey Conrad did.

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musicfreak said on December 14, 2011 at 12:59 PM

@digiwave, I don't necessarily agree with the secular side of Christmas. We don't see a secular side of Hanukkah or Ramadan. Why is it okay for Christmas to go so secular? I do realize it's not the actual month of Jesus Christ's birth. I do realize that, what, 3rd or 4th century Christians slapped the celebration of our Savior's birth right smack dab in the middle of the Winter Solstice to help bring new followers into the fold. I realize the Christmas Tree is a pagan tradition those early Christians took for their own use. However, CHRISTMAS is still the celebration of Christ's birth. If people want something "secular" why not just celebrate the Winter Solstice? I know people who do that, and they and their loved ones are perfectly happy with that. You can still have a pretty tree all decorated up...but be celebrating nature instead of the birth of Christ.

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digiwave said on December 14, 2011 at 12:52 PM

@saynotolibs: How have you not noticed that Christmas is primarily a secular holiday in our modern times and there is very little religion in the celebration for most people in this country. Secular is defined as: "activities, or other things that have no religious or spiritual basis." (from the M-W dictionary)

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josh_iii said on December 14, 2011 at 12:41 PM

WHO CARES!!!! Religion works for some and not for others. Do we really need to advertise it? If people want to learn about a particular religion or non religion, then go find out about it. Don't shove your rhetoric down my throat. That's the best way to get me to turn my back on you. I personally don't believe in the Christian or Muslim religion. I believe there is a higher power of some kind, but I don't call it God, and I don't believe Jesus was anything other than a normal person with a good message. Choose what works best for you and don't judge others because they don't believe the same way. Live and let live. If you are excited about your religious or non-religious beliefs... wonderful, share them with people who care. Religious/Atheist ads and bumper stickers annoy me to no end. I DON'T CARE WHAT YOU BELIEVE IN. What a boring world we would live in if everyone liked the same things.

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ktmchick said on December 14, 2011 at 12:39 PM

Funny, Metro wouldn't put an add that promoted buying locally because it was thought to be too political, but they will advertise religion (or lack thereof in this case)? I am confused.

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1lacus said on December 14, 2011 at 12:18 PM

@saynotolibs I like the idea. you know what would really show us atheists? stop believing in god. man, that would really take the wind out of our sails :) but merry christmas, it is after all a wonderful secular holiday.

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musicfreak said on December 14, 2011 at 12:16 PM

@Monopolygone, actually there have been articles about the I Am Mormon ads, and I've seen people just going off about these ads and attacking Mormons (as I, myself, am), so yes, there have been articles about a religion buying ad space on the buses.

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saynotolibs said on December 14, 2011 at 12:00 PM

Let's just stop celebrating Christmas. See how the atheists like that.

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1lacus said on December 14, 2011 at 12:00 PM

@bazwest how can not believing in something be the cause of anything? I do not collect stamps for a hobby, but it's not fair to say 'not collecting stamps is my hobby.' likewise my morality has absolutely nothing to do with 'not believing in god.' as I said atheism is merely a reply to theist about what they have brought up and a lot of atheist rhetoric is a response to the hate the religious feel towards us. I bring up the fact that atheist tend to 'be more moral' only because religious people always assume it is the opposite.

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wearedoomed said on December 14, 2011 at 11:57 AM

1 in 4 people spend more time online than asleep. Just saying!

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nowheremanphoto said on December 14, 2011 at 11:45 AM

Hey, that's my photo up there! As for the supposed "controversy" here. This ad isn't attacking Christianity, Christians, or any other belief system. If it were I wouldn't have shot the ad campaign. Yes, they ran this ad at this time because it's a traditionally religious time of year and it's a good chance to start a dialog. It was very much a targeted ad, but this shouldn't be thought of as hostile to theists. All of the folks I've met in the Seattle Atheist community have been exceedingly nice, friendly, and open folks. They welcome discussion and dialog, but mostly the point they wanted to make with these ads was "it's okay to be Atheist. It doesn't make you a bad person", and that their beliefs should not be ignored or attacked. So by all means, have a dialog. Have a belief or a non-belief system. There's room in the boat for everyone and we can all get along. That's their message.

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mellybelly323 said on December 14, 2011 at 11:43 AM

Wow... So much hate - from both sides. It's rather pathetic. But this thread is an amazing case study in EXACTLY what's wrong with this world, and in what will ALWAYS be wrong with this world.

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bazwest said on December 14, 2011 at 11:42 AM

@1lacus-- I found it humorous that you proclaim yourself to be more enlightened, elevated, and moral than the religious because you choose not to believe in God. I have news for you, it is not what one does not believe in that makes them who they are. Rather it is what one does believe in that defines them. Atheists are not intrinsically moral although they can be. I applaude you if you decide to behave in a moral way. Unfortunately, I think you will find, with a little introspection, that you rely too heavily upon faux stereotypes to justify your judgements of others and for self-justification and self-engrandizement. I do acknowledge that it is a travesty that so much horror and bloodshed has been profligated in the name of God through the centuries. But in the end those things eminated not from God, but from another source.

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dirtyharry69 said on December 14, 2011 at 11:30 AM

You are free to make your choice. However you are not free to choose the results of your choice. You are free to believe in whatever you want, but there are consequences for your choice. It would be unwise to think you can do or believe whatever you want without any consequences. ~~ I would say the majority of the world population is not Christian. I would also say that most of the world population is nowhere near one fourth atheist. At most the atheist commercial is funny and a waste of their money. At worst it is deceptive and leads people astray. Choose wisely.

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1lacus said on December 14, 2011 at 11:25 AM

@ttylboy why do you assume people who don't believe in what you believe in don't believe in anything? you know what is bigger then the individual? Us, all of us. The question is why can't we all be nice to each other? I'll believe in that. I'll believe in helping my fellow man/woman when they are down. I'll believe in elevating every single one us, supplying all of us with a decent life, a good education, effective healthcare, and dignity in death. I'll believe in the health of the planet and the quality of our sustenance. I'll believe in you. I'll believe in this planet. I'll believe in every child born regardless of race, wealth or religion. I'll think together we can make this a better place, or more beautiful place; a place where everyone, all of us, can live simply, safely, and peacefully. and I'll dedicate my life in trying.

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kaseyconrad said on December 14, 2011 at 11:21 AM

ATHEISTS, who cares what you think. Its Christmas, just DEAL WITH IT. Whats your point of trying to put a damper on the holidays for the majority of the people who simply want to enjoy this time of year. F*** YOU.

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underserf said on December 14, 2011 at 11:17 AM

@ttylboy - your broken grammar notwithstanding [" I for one will not follow a person who has placed belief and hope in something bigger than us"] yes, no matter WHAT delusion someone needs to rationalize daily existence beyond the enjoyment of awareness itself, it MUST BE an individual choice, period. Atheists AND Christians AND Buddhists (look up who built the nations' rails) AND agnostics AND secular humanists and even some Scientologists BUILT THIS COUNTRY and some died for it's principles. EVERYONE aside from sociopaths and possibly some Republicans, see SOMETHING greater than themselves, whether it's forces of Nature, altruism or the mysteries of the Universe, Atheists in this narrow definition simply don't NEED a specific supernatural entity to justify being a DECENT HUMAN BEING - Death Rows around the nation are full of True Believers...

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mysterywhiteboy said on December 14, 2011 at 11:11 AM

"Eespeically religious ones." *ahem* spell check, King5.

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underserf said on December 14, 2011 at 11:05 AM

@davesea, no we won't - the thing ppl just don't GET is the fact that your consciousness ENDS, there is no AWARENESS, period. So eternity, the Universe and everything else is NOTHING, as far as WE are concerned - and no one will EVER be able to prove an eternity spent blissing nor absolute oblivion, so the best idea is live and LET LIVE....

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1lacus said on December 14, 2011 at 11:04 AM

listen people atheism is not a belief system, it's a response to theism. and it's not true atheist believe in nothing or have no morality, they do. in fact, atheist tend to be MORE moral, probably because lacking God they have nobody to forgive there sins. imagine being christian, do any wrong you want on Saturday night, be absolved on Sunday. no wonder you all like is so much. Nope, atheist have to live with what they do, that's why atheist marriages last longer and have less adultery. another thing is, take prisoners, most of them are religious. ever wondered why? answer: see above. atheist tend to believe in things like reason and brotherhood and the health of the planet, and just want everybody to get along. it's amazing that religion seems so opposed to these ideals, Jesus would really hate you people, but love atheists.

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Sir_Real said on December 14, 2011 at 10:58 AM

I got a question for the atheists: We have a compelling post by a (make)believer at 8:57am below saying imagining a higher power gives them purpose. What's the atheist viewpoint on why (make)believers need to have imaginary guides?

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dwalt2me said on December 14, 2011 at 10:52 AM

This is about par for Seattle, they believe in nothing anyway. Oh wait! I forgot! They believe they are entitled to anything they want and someone else paying for it!!

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Mytake said on December 14, 2011 at 10:45 AM

confident in your morals? based on what monopolygone? Horrors of religion? ya some. look at all the individual good that has happened because of it and add that to the scale. 97% of the world believes in a higher power. Just imagine if that were NOT true. Ever seen book of ely?

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ttylboy said on December 14, 2011 at 9:57 AM

So I am supposed to believe, support, and follow athieists when they don't believe in anything? They have no higher calling, no hopes in their lives? No, I can't do that. I can't follow anyone who doesn't feel that there is something bigger than themselves. So if you say you do belive in things more than yourself then you fool yourself in saying there is no God there is no belief system in place. I for one will not follow a person who has placed belief and hope in something bigger than us. I can't believe that I am on this earth just wandering around aimlessly alone. There is no rational way to understand that. But you go on and continue to do so your choice.

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musicfreak said on December 14, 2011 at 9:09 AM

@deepsee, the Mormon church is NOT funding an election. Good grief.

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sonata said on December 14, 2011 at 8:47 AM

I still want to see the "BUY AMERICAN" ads on Metro. Metro refused. Guess they are all a bunch of atheists so that makes this okay? Not to most. I am SOOOOO glad I don't ride Metro. Never will, after these instances.

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davesea said on December 14, 2011 at 8:33 AM

One in four are deniers. Are you going to bet there's no heaven or hell? Eternity = forever right or wrong. What have you got to lose? You'll have a eternity of joy or reget. You choose.

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SMHATYOU said on December 14, 2011 at 8:14 AM

drmike, December is not the property of Christianity, but the main point of Christmas (which just happens to be in December), is to celebrate the birth of Jesus. It is obvious that this organization chose this time in particular to run their ads, and promote their cause because of this. They most certainly have the right to do so, but for you to suggest that this had nothing to do with the ongoing "war on Christmas/Christianity" is ridiculous.

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quidproquote said on December 14, 2011 at 7:55 AM

I don't see how this is any more news than all the mormon ads around. It was originally strange to see religions start to advertise anyway. Just like I find it strange hospitals have advertisements.

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gottabebacon said on December 14, 2011 at 7:52 AM

@mr_conservative, unfortunately for many over the centuries it's been Know God, No Peace. So many in history taken up arms and fought the bloodiest battles in the name of God? Or more accurately in the name of their religion.

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sonata said on December 14, 2011 at 7:39 AM

So, Metro, put the "BUY AMERICAN" add on. You do you not believe in America, either.

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sonata said on December 14, 2011 at 7:38 AM

ANOTHER reason to not ride Metro.

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mr_conservative said on December 14, 2011 at 6:59 AM

Know God; know peace - no God; no peace

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deepsee said on December 14, 2011 at 6:42 AM

The Idea of "God" is make believe, like the tooth fairy, or santa clause. It was designed to give us answers to the unknown, to give us a sense of control of the uncontrolable, so we feel better, that someone or something is watching over us. Calm people are easier to control, governments have known this for centuries... Now About the ads......No one gets all up in arms that "in god we trust" is printed on our currency, or that the mormon church is funding an election...Religion has been a business since its inception despite antidisestablishmentarianism...Lack of religion can be a faith too. I have faith technology will save us, but that is just me...By the way, It's really funny to see all the hard core bible thumpers write whole paragraphs about how faithfull they are...The bottom line here is Freedom of Religion! Believe what you want...Nothing is sure but death and taxes....

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Mingledchime said on December 14, 2011 at 6:28 AM

@ Search4Truth - - - - Not that I'm trying to promote any particular way of thinking about the whole issue, but the answer, in part, to your inquiry, below, is radiation. If you aren't sure what that means then please do a little more research and try to have a more informed opinion next time you post. Some believe - and there is "evidence" to support this belief - that the driving force behind the evolution of life on this planet is the sun. Sound incredible? I'll grant you that it does. But check into it just a little and you will begin to understand the "theory." Sometimes a better understanding of the basis of belief of the "other opinion" is necessary before commenting in a negative way. And, who knows, with better understandings maybe there won't be quite so much bickering, rudness, hatred, religious wars, bigotry, killing, etc. The information for all sides is out there and all we need do is better inform ourselves about all sides to an issue before discussing.

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clear2copy said on December 14, 2011 at 6:18 AM

The frightening thing is that 3 in 4 people believe in their supernatural fairies and cloud-people..people that would count themselves amongst the intelligent and reasoning..all the while living in their collective delusions..

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stonetrails said on December 14, 2011 at 6:15 AM

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dkjamerican - When I started reading this article, that was my first thought. The politicians who have put America into this position ought to be tossed out on their ears, with no pensions, no soft comfy health insurance, no nothing.

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RicheyRich50 said on December 14, 2011 at 4:18 AM

Some people need to GET A LIFE!!

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Gregory7 said on December 14, 2011 at 3:53 AM

Since our spirit soul energies come from God, I believe it would be better for all of us to get together, come together, learn about each others, help each others, teach each others, love each others and love God. To learn how to get along, to learn how to get purified, learn through prayer, how to get right with our father "God", Lets not intoxify ourselves and bodies, lets take care of our bodies put the right source of food into our bodies that was designed for our bodies to live in the order God has set out for us to live in our learning process of each others and in getting ourselves right with God. That's it. Amen / Hare Krishna and Haribold!

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Gregory7 said on December 14, 2011 at 3:41 AM

God, Mother Nature and science are all one and the same. God is the cause of all causes except our human cause which we all cause ourselves. This doesn't mean we create our human selves, no, God does the creating of our lives. Our human cause is what we cause after our lives begin on this planet or another. God will help us if we ask and then serve his / her purpose first, then we benefit, get the help we need and move on. It is all that simple. The ultimate goal is to get right with God, learn how to become purified from sin as well as to learn how to love all in the purified process in rightgeousness. Then you can go back home, back home to God head. Amen / Hare Krishna.

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Gregory7 said on December 14, 2011 at 3:16 AM

Dear Seattle No Belief Group, You are correct about religion in this aspect, it is a label of superstition that we humans have dubbed onto 400,000 different human cultures from the beginning in order to alter the laws of the land to benefit each human group of what we each believe and have faith on. You are wrong when you say this: But if all those people if they're without God that's what atheist means," Johnson said. God, Jesus Christ exist that's fact. I know because they are my heavenly fathers, my friends and have performed miracles for me. The meaning of Atheist means simply no belief, that's it! Simple huh, No Belief! Now people can say that they don't believe in God, but they would be wrong. God is the cause of all causes, he / she is our energies. God does not have to answer to us, God didn't even have to create us but God did. We must be the ones to answer to "God". We get benefit from God when we serve God and not until we do, that's primarily how his / her system works

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Ericka_M_Joha6c said on December 14, 2011 at 1:25 AM

Got a question for an atheist? Just ask! Head over to the 1 in 4 site to submit your question. We're aiming to answer every and any question thrown our way.

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dkjamerican said on December 14, 2011 at 1:24 AM

So it is ok to put religious or anti religious ads on the buses but not allow the "Buy American'' slogan? This is totally wrong & totally unpatriotic.

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freemonttroll said on December 14, 2011 at 1:19 AM

Atheists put ads on Seattle buses for holiday season - And until the news reported on it, no one noticed....

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stop_whining_1 said on December 14, 2011 at 12:46 AM

Our schools are not allowed to TEACH about god or religion......So they say! Yet my kids are ALWAYS learning about other religions and celebrations.....just none that believe in GOD. So why do my kids come home with papers about Quanza and Hannakuh but we can't talk about christmas? I'll tell you why!! because of other religious groups whining about there holidays not being top of the list!! so why not make it fair and talk about them all? because even that was not what these other religions wanted. so now my kids know more about other celebrations than their own. NO HALLOWEEN in school. Don't want to upset other students!! But my kids can be upset that there won't be school halloween parties? Look around this isn't america anymore! Its the land of the minority!! THANK YOU bitter useless cry babies everywhere ruining our country and its people. you said it ss427 Get em while their young and replace the old beliefs with these ones!!

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stop_whining_1 said on December 14, 2011 at 12:19 AM

Why do people always feel the need to put someone else down and then try to make themselves look good. Here's some news for you. It makes you look like a joke! and a bitter one at that!! Oh boo hoo they believe and we don't. Well guess what I think we'll just tell all your children that god doesn't exist,and to top it off I'll phrase it to say Santa doesn't exist either. Now I'll go home to my kids and decorate our tree two years after we made that comment and say what a good bunch of people we are. So proud to be an athiest. Hippocrit would be better fitting.1 in 4 are athiests? Looks like your trying to prove that your just as good as religious people. When has any religion came out and said WE ARE BETTER THAN YOU? who cares if 1 in 4 people are atheists. 1 in 4 children are molested I think thats a bit more important!! THAT SHOULD BE ON A BUS!!!!! Go cry to somewhere who cares, maybe your athiest support group, because the rest of the world has better things to worry about.

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Search4Truth said on December 14, 2011 at 12:11 AM

atheists believe in the survival of the fittest and if any doctor or nurse atheists do not believe you are fit enough to survive - watch out - they are the ones who want to legalize euthanasia for the old and ill people. They are a danger to those they do not believe are fit enough to survive.

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Search4Truth said on December 14, 2011 at 12:07 AM

Twenty five percent of Washingtonians are fools. I knew this. Even higher in Seattle and that';s why they voted for an idiotic under capacity tunnel to replace the viaduct spending two billion dollars we do not have and now the legislature is trying to come up with two billion more to balance the budget. twenty five percent fools should pay for all of it.

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drmike said on December 14, 2011 at 12:05 AM

It's great to see the positive ads from this group. As an atheist, I have been embarrassed to see some of the negative stuff that has come out in previous years -- religious intolerance is ugly, including when atheists do it. The Christians that have a problem with this ad need to get a grip. First, there's nothing anti-Christian about these ads (yes, many of your neighbors are atheists and you might even enjoy talking with them) and second, the month of December is not the property of Chritianity. It's time to put an end to this silly idea that there is a "war against Christmas".

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watatoe said on December 13, 2011 at 11:59 PM

"The group says the goal of the campaign is to encourage believers to realize they know more non-believers than they are aware of, and to be willing to get to know them better." Well....I hope that is a two way street and I would like to encourage the atheists to realize that they know more believers than they are aware of and I hope that they, too, would be willing to get to know believers better too.

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Sir_Real said on December 13, 2011 at 11:58 PM

ss427, Are you saying that 9/11 would not have happened under an atheist President?

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Search4Truth said on December 13, 2011 at 11:58 PM

The twenty five percent fools - no wonder this state is toast. The fools cannot explain why a single cell would want to evolve into a higher life form let alone evolve into a human. If you believe in evolution, you need to explain what caused that cell to want to evolve into something more let alone want to reproduce. The whole concept behind evolution depends on something higher - the "force" pushing the cell to evolve and reproduce. evolution is conceptually a lunatic theory that cannot be accepted by anyone who thinks about it unless they are self deluded.

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ss427 said on December 13, 2011 at 11:44 PM

Ahhhhh religion. Belief in,,, what? Believing. Believing is just that; no proof. There has never been a proved miracle and never will be. Want us to believe in god? Prove he exists. Then I'll send my money to the bible thumpers. Until then believers can keep their myth to themselves. Well, maybe not. They're plastered all over world. Almost all wars are because of religion against religion. What happened to our Twin Towers? Why? Power, free money. How do we get believers to replace old believers? Get 'em while they're young. Disney-style fantasy only works if it's inflicted at an age when we believe everything adults tell us. Take a look at the mythology of the catholic belief system. There's a reason they have alter boys.

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Sir_Real said on December 13, 2011 at 11:35 PM

There is no god, or there is a god? What's the point? Why do some people need to feel they are here for a purpose?

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ss427 said on December 13, 2011 at 11:17 PM

It's so good to be an atheist. Honest. The air is so much sweeter when the truth is known; Evolution & the Big Bang. Our minds become free to understand reality, not myth and giving our money to myth-purveyors who want to get our money for nothing. Life becomes soooo sweet. LOVE, JOY, FREEDOM!

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teachertoo said on December 13, 2011 at 11:12 PM

This time of year is about celebrating lots of different traditions and religious beliefs. We are naturally social beings and people just want a place to belong and to be heard. It is my hope that my children will be more accepting of others than our current society. No sign on a bus, billboard, or flier is ever going to help somebody more than having someone who loves them for who they are, but if seeing that billboard makes somebody not feel alone, then why not?

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silicawood said on December 13, 2011 at 11:09 PM

Yep - looks like atheists are the new religious fanatics. Why are people so obsessed with getting everyone else to believe what we believe ourselves. Get over yourself and you will find life to be much more happier.

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fishnickfish6906 said on December 13, 2011 at 11:03 PM

GOD BLESS AMERICA..... nuff said

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hitherto19711 said on December 13, 2011 at 11:02 PM

See?

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emansnas said on December 13, 2011 at 10:59 PM

Seems to me being a true atheist would require a certain amount of honor, courage and respect for others beliefs and that only a disillusioned religionist who can't really let go would make a point of being hateful of religion and affronting Christians during their special season.

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Humbleservant99 said on December 13, 2011 at 10:52 PM

I think many of the atheists are becoming religious fanatics now. They now form organizations/groups. They share core belief of no God/gods and they are fervently spreading their gospel- that everyone should believe in nothing-no god, no purpose in life(not with certainty anyway), and not sure what happens after death. The only thing they are sure of is that they are not sure of anything and yet they feel like they must inform everyone about it? Christians are commanded to share the Gospel. Is there a God of nothingness commanding all atheists to insult Christians during their religious holiday by running advertisements and occupying nativity scenes with insults (check MSNBC on American Atheist Assoc.)? To choose this time for such a advertisement shows the intent to insult. If you want to educate, then open a facility, run a seminar and invite people... hum, doesn't this sound like a group of "religious fanatics." Much to say about Nothing.....illogical...

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hitherto19711 said on December 13, 2011 at 10:43 PM

It's getting late so pardon the typos. The point of this is simply Atheists are human beings just the same as any believer. We all get caught up in ideas we want or wish to be true. Atheists are not evil or bad or any of what the chutes say they are. They are people that just do not adhere to religious belief. If you hate Islam, take a good look in the mirror. If you hate Judaism... same thing. All of these believers are people just as any atheist. If you saw a person dying in a accident would you stop to help or ask them what they believe first? I question the morality of anyone who says they would not help anyone of a differing faith or belief.

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comiccon2010 said on December 13, 2011 at 10:37 PM

yet they refuse to allow the truth about israel and how they get billions of taxpayers money

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hitherto19711 said on December 13, 2011 at 10:33 PM

@bravenerwhirled Do you believe in the tooth fairy? How about Santa Claus, Maybe Leprechauns? Those are belief systems too. You need to understand a simple principle. Religious doctrine asks you to obey to a principle atheists do not adhere to and that is all. They feel the same way you do about Zues, or Horus, And the countless other Gods that have been claimed including Allah. They just don't see any evidence for any of the Gods in history including yours.

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BraveNewWhirled said on December 13, 2011 at 10:20 PM

@SeattleAtheist0, maybe I don't understand your definitions of "rejecting a belief in a god or higher power" and "outright claiming there is no god", both of which are beliefs and to me, appear virtually identical. Anyhow, anchovies are great on pizza. Their presence is a reality, along with the slices on which they rest. I appreciate your intelligent discourse, but I'm getting punchy and must call it a night. pineconeid at frontier dot com if you wish.

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SeattleAtheist0 said on December 13, 2011 at 9:58 PM

@BraveNewWhirled, anchovies...interesting, I've never tried that on pizza before. Back to the topic, there's a difference between rejecting a belief in a god or higher power and outright claiming there is no god. I do not claim that "God does not exist!" for that would be just as illogical as claiming that a god does exist. There might be the slightest shred of possibility that a god does exist, and on this basis you could refer to me as an agnostic or "weak" atheist. All I state is that I see no evidence supporting the existence of a god, so I do not find reason to believe in the idea.

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hitherto19711 said on December 13, 2011 at 9:56 PM

I think this is great. If Christians truly turn the other cheek and love as Jesus taught them, why would any of them be angry? Christmas after all was a Pagan tradition way before Constantine made Christianity an official religion. Timing is inconsequential.

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hitherto19711 said on December 13, 2011 at 9:48 PM

@spacedover: Well, sir... you can always try praying harder.

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BraveNewWhirled said on December 13, 2011 at 9:43 PM

@SeattleAtheist0, "supernatural", "doctrine" and "rituals". The very definition of Atheism and religion. All require a deity. Atheism *not* a belief system? It is the belief there is no "god", or "higher power". I'd love to share a pizza with you sometime. I believe in anchovies. :)

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hitherto19711 said on December 13, 2011 at 9:39 PM

@noskills. You mean that Pagan Holiday that Christians stole when it has been figure out that Jesus (if he existed) by astronomical events actual birthday was most likely in August? Shows what you know about history and where the true origins of this holiday really came from. Don't ask Constantine the Great. He'll say it was his will, not God's.

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Anonymous said on December 13, 2011 at 9:36 PM

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God bless us, everyone!

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SeattleAtheist0 said on December 13, 2011 at 9:24 PM

@BraveNewWhirled, It might have been too broad to state that it is a rejection of all beliefs, and I shall remedy this now. Atheism is a rejection of belief in a deity (or deities, whichever your prefer). Sure, everybody has a belief system of some sort, secular or otherwise. To say that atheism is a religion is flat-out nonsense, because religion is defined as concerned with the supernatural and also includes doctrine, rituals, etc.

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BraveNewWhirled said on December 13, 2011 at 9:17 PM

Having visited the "1 in 4" Website, the message is clear: "If you're an atheist, speak out! If you're a person of faith, SHUTUP!" Read it and think. The objective person could come to no other conclusion. And where did this number "1 in 4" come from?

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BraveNewWhirled said on December 13, 2011 at 9:10 PM

@SeattleAtheist0, at this point it's impossible, because Atheism is *not* a rejection of belief; it is fully a belief system. "Off" is not a TV channel because no information is being received when "off", even though the info is being transmitted and the receiver is tuned. Unless we are dead (off) we always have a belief system, a set of principles by which we conduct ourself.

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biggergovnow said on December 13, 2011 at 9:06 PM

Who cares? I don't believe in god, but I respect those that do. In a way I kind of envy them, at least they know where they are going when they die. It wasn't long ago that metro "censored" an ad on the opposite side.

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LisaMarie70 said on December 13, 2011 at 9:04 PM

Whatever crumbles your cookie....what ad will be their next one???..."You will have everlasting death that requires no effort on your part".

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intrepid1 said on December 13, 2011 at 8:57 PM

Awesome! More revenue for the Metro system! Hopefully, this will prompt theist groups to post counter ads, starting an ad war that will funnel more advertising revenue to Metro which can then be used to improve service! Woohoo!!!!

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fishnickfish6906 said on December 13, 2011 at 8:48 PM

How Sad to think this is the end for you, when you die, you just rot in the ground, I'm going to heaven to live forever.

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SeattleAtheist0 said on December 13, 2011 at 8:47 PM

@BraveNewWhirled, is it difficult for you to see that atheism is nothing more than a rejection of belief? Saying atheism is a religion makes as much sense as saying "off" is a TV channel.

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BraveNewWhirled said on December 13, 2011 at 8:37 PM

@Mingledchime, religion is generally defined as a strongly held belief and/or system of acting out a belief. Yes, people are too sensitive these times because we have been programmed such. It's "I hate you, you hate me, we're gonna break each other's knees". But we are led to react this way by people who despise us and wish us to kill each other, while they rob our livelihood and progeny.

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Mingledchime said on December 13, 2011 at 8:26 PM

I believe people are by nature intolerant of the belief systems of others. I believe more lives have been needlessly lost through history due to religious intolerance than can be excused. I believe everyone has the right to believe what they choose to believe and to feel safe from persecution bred of intolerance. I believe people are too sensitive to having their cherished beliefs challenged. I believe people have, continue to, and will always react with anger and rudness toward those who speak ill of their beliefs. I believe that many of the inarticulately expressed comments, below, are a symptom of our general hatred of those who believe differently or behave disrespectfully toward what ever are our own beliefs. I believe most people who express anger in such comments do not have the well rounded education or experience required to express an informed opinion. I believe there are commenters who will hate me for expressing my opinion, here - and I believe they will tell me so.

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BraveNewWhirled said on December 13, 2011 at 8:11 PM

@Paul_Hannah479 what evidence do you have that "theists" control the most powerful country in the world? I would argue otherwise and present volumes of facts for support. I make the assumption you are referring to "Christians" and the U.S. Can you argue from a position of logic and reason, rather than spewing hateful, inane and easily disputed vituperative?

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josh_bile4279107 said on December 13, 2011 at 8:06 PM

Good to see the fine upstanding Christian folks on here being as judgemental and insulting to others as they can be, way to live by your religions book. Whole lot of hypocrasy coming from the Christian community. For those complaining about the time of year this is happening, get over it. Jesus wasn't born on Christmas. The Christmas holiday that oh so many Christians celebrate is nothing more than a fancy tribute to old world paganism and an Ancient Babylonian ritual to help usher in the winter solstice. Where do you think you get the tree decoration and worship from? Jesus didn't pop on down here to throw a star on top of a fir tree growing in the dessert. So the excuse about it being sensitive for this time of year is ludicrous. Another thing that is funny, Metro would not allow ads that said "Buy American" or "Support Local Economy", yet they allow ads like this that are obviously going to get groups in a tissy. More hypocrasy.

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Paul_Hannah479 said on December 13, 2011 at 8:01 PM

I love listening to theists bleat (well you are a flock aren't you?) about respect. Respect! Ha! You believe in talking snakes, talking donkeys, suicidal pigs and venerate a bloke who was so stupid he expected figs from a tree out of season. You believe all that and want respect? And you are so oppressed by atheists, you control the elected officials in the most powerful country in the world, you have entire TV channels just to spout your bronze age myths and whenever we just poke our heads up and say "er... by the way we are here too.." the true venom of your faith pours out. What are you so afraid of? Don't bother I know, we see that emperor has no clothes, and you are afraid if we point it out others will notice and laugh. And don't give me, "Oh I am a sophisticated believer" such things aren't litterally true. We take your bible's (and other 'holy' book's) claims seriously. So should you.

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grannydub said on December 13, 2011 at 7:52 PM

Let them spend their money and have their 'fun', even at this Holy time for Christians. We won't be judging them, God will.

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musicfreak said on December 13, 2011 at 7:49 PM

@fitchick, at least with the faith I belong to, our missionaries will bend over backwards to help anyone, whether they become members of the church or not. One of my missionaries told me they came to one older woman's house once a week for six weeks and did housework and yard work for her because she needed the help. She never took their discussions and she never became a member of our church, but they helped her. Is that not respecting someone else's beliefs? Now, on to the subject at hand, I'm still confused why Atheists need to advertise. I know Atheists, and Agnostics (I used to be Agnostic myself), Muslims, Evangelical Christians, Catholics, Mormons, Jews -- you name it, I know people who practice or don't practice. And we're all respectful of one another's beliefs.

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conseula said on December 13, 2011 at 7:22 PM

No Eileen Cabalo, ATHEIST ARE NOT PRETTY MUCH LIKE EVERYONE ELSE! They might drive busses, engineers, baristas, doctors and take pride in their work. BUT! THEY ARE IGNORANT/my humble opinion..I feel sorry for them.

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emptynestr said on December 13, 2011 at 7:18 PM

Why do we even make this NEWS????

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realitychk said on December 13, 2011 at 7:04 PM

@Shaniqua, that is priceless!

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snakepliskin said on December 13, 2011 at 7:01 PM

All the atheists are doing is showing a lack of respect to the majority of people who have a belief in a higher being. But what atheists forget or don't understand is that they are part of a religion. Religion isn't who or what you believe in as much as it is the way you live. Where atheists are ignorant is that what they are doing when they display their brand of religion is they are doing it by negativity, by trying to destroy the things they do not believe in. Bottom line, atheists should just quit preaching. No one is hearing what you're trying to say. Just shut up, be a good atheist and lead by example. Some Christians, Muslims, Hindi, Jews, etc., need to follow that advice, also.

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Alchemist said on December 13, 2011 at 6:46 PM

Of course, it looks more impressive that way instead of saying "3 Out of 4 People are not Atheists!". Let them have their little fun, they're too easy of a target. BTW, ask them what Madelien Murray O'Hare is up to these days.

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rhinosaur said on December 13, 2011 at 6:34 PM

As an atheist, I have to say I'm surprised at how angry and upset some people get over some things (such as this campaign). I think that most of you people commenting are missing the point of it. The point being that atheists deserve just as much respect as anyone else. I like to think I'm a good person. I've never done drugs, I like to volunteer, donate when I can, and help people out when I can. I have a college degree, a steady job, and am an active person in society. I am no different than anyone else except in the fact that I do not believe in a deity of some kind. I also have a number of religious friends (Muslim, Christian, etc.) and while my lack of faith is a concern for them, it's a concern based in love and friendship. They don't tell me I'm going to hell, but their faith causes them to worry and I appreciate it. On the flip-side, I don't attack their faith. We get along famously and I love them all. The point of this campaign is to learn and be friends, so be friends!

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spacedover said on December 13, 2011 at 6:07 PM

Who are these ignorant slobs tiring to change their very existence. Must be another fade for some sorry fools.

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noskills said on December 13, 2011 at 6:07 PM

@fitchik I have no problem with the billboard any other time of the year. But this time of the year I think its disrespectful. The billboard is not what is disrespectful its the timing of the billboard. As for religious groups going door to door I usually find them quite respectful. I just tell them Im not interested and they leave me be.

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warcry said on December 13, 2011 at 6:06 PM

I have no problems with various groups posting advertisments on buses and I have no problems with Atheists. However, I couldn't help but ask myself, "Why do Atheists need to advertise?" Are they raising money for a church or something? Do you need money towards promotion of a non-belief? Just kind of seems strange thats all. But hey, this is The United States of America, freedom of Religion includes the choice to not believe.

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agirlinseattle said on December 13, 2011 at 5:54 PM

neat.

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jonjuan said on December 13, 2011 at 5:46 PM

Good to see them putting money back into the economy for a change!

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thinksmart said on December 13, 2011 at 5:30 PM

Thanks again (atheists) for showing your ignorance and "small-mindedness." I got a REALLY good laugh out of it. It totally made my day.

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dirtyharry69 said on December 13, 2011 at 5:04 PM

The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God. ~ God

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southside253 said on December 13, 2011 at 5:00 PM

George Washington was a closet atheist. Many scholars believe Ben Franklin and lots of prominent figures at the birth of America were atheist. It was ungodly to back talk the king who was granted king by "god". Very Radical Masons.

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waituhminute said on December 13, 2011 at 4:48 PM

Rad!

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Sir_Real said on December 13, 2011 at 4:38 PM

The guy in the yellow coat is an atheist.

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fitchik said on December 13, 2011 at 4:27 PM

Noskills- so when people with specific religious affiliation go door to door passing out pamphlets, are they respecting beliefs that are different than theirs?

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whatsyurbeef said on December 13, 2011 at 4:23 PM

If you go to a special event in a gorgeous remote area in the high sierras and the first thing your ask at the front gate is, Where's your invitation ? You reply, I have no invitation, but the owners son invited me. A moment later the owner son, your best friend, arrives and tells the man at the gate, I know him, he's with me. Next the gate is opened for you and you're warmly welcomed.

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Shaniqua said on December 13, 2011 at 4:18 PM

I told my friend I didn't believe him when he said he was an atheist. He replied, "But I am. Swear to God."

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noskills said on December 13, 2011 at 4:07 PM

I could care less about what people choose to believe but why cant we have respect for others. Put up an Atheist ad a different time of the year. Now is not appropriate. What ever happened to having respect for people whose beliefs were different then yours.

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nurse19561998 said on December 13, 2011 at 3:59 PM

Wish these people alot of luck when they die. I would hate to think there was nothing beyond this. Maies your existance all for naught.

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