Three Seattle Police officers suspended for using vulgar language

davesea said on May 27, 2011 at 7:12 AM

I'd be looking for work in a better town if I were a cop. Leave Seattle to simmer in it's own pc stew.

chrahn said on May 26, 2011 at 1:23 PM

Next time you need help, call a gangsta.

Slinky_McGhe7a8 said on May 25, 2011 at 8:26 PM

the funniest part of this whole thing is that the individuals stopped by these officers refused to cooperate with the Office of Professional Affairs. I gotta say this, Seattle, be careful what you wish for. Between the media and the liberals who think crime can be dealt with using hugs, you are going to do nothing but discourage SPD to go out and do their jobs. Why would a Seattle Officer go out and put his career in jeopardy trying to do the right thing when they know they will be worn out in the media, and by the liberals who pressure the department into making such ridiculous disciplinary actions? then, to top it off, King 5 has a vindictive female reporter with some kind of axe to grind that is making one officer her personal target. stay classy, seattle. see how far it gets you

phxaz said on May 25, 2011 at 5:43 PM

If nothing else, this is simply unprofessional. They should be ashamed of how they conducted themselves. This is not a Liberal-conservative issue. Another poster on here mentioned that we "liberal fools" should go down to Mexico and see what no authority looks like??? Really??? Sounds like you have fairly low standards and low expectations. Comparing us to a disfunctional government. Thats pretty sad and makes no sense. Who on here is saying the police should have no authority? Not me, and not anyone else on here. We are saying they should conduct themselves like professionals. If they want to be regarded as professionals than they should conduct themselves as such. FBI, ATF, DEA and all other Federal Law Enforcement Agencies have higher standards for professionalism, and local agencies should be the same. In most cases, local agencies pay more, so there is no reason they should not expect more.

Trojan22 said on May 25, 2011 at 5:12 PM

Actually they were rewarded with paid vacations! They were suspended with FULL PAY.... I'm surprised that they were not promoted. Chief Diaz needs to be FIRED! Most people in Seattle are in complete denial and support the police even when the murder Indian wood carvers and black guys that are not armed. No matter how much misconduct the police do in Seattle, they have the full support of the general public and City Council.

inside_man said on May 25, 2011 at 4:57 PM

Funny how the fair and impartial media failed to mention the gansters who said they were going to come to the officer's homes, murder them, rape and murder their family members, and burn their homes down. Yet the police are the bad guys... And FYI: suspension means UNPAID. This is no small punishment. Think if you own a home and have kids, and your family had to go without your income for nearly a month.

paulharvey said on May 25, 2011 at 4:52 PM

Threatening to murder someone and have sex with a piece of their dead body, and inviting someone to commit an act of homosexual sodomy on you is not what I would call de-escalating the situation. It is quite the opposite, in fact.These problems with childish behavior will go away when people stop making pathetic, laughable excuses for them, and not until.

banditrider said on May 25, 2011 at 4:42 PM

It's just a simple suspension to keep the liberal fools happy. It didn't say suspension without pay. Good for the cops, now they get a few days off to relax. For the liberal fools out there, go to Mexico for a few days and get a real taste of no authority. I doubt you'll make it back.

oldmangreen said on May 25, 2011 at 11:14 AM

Sounds to me like they threatened a citizen's life? I don't think anyone who threatens people's life should carry a gun and a badge? Who are the morons allowing these punks to even carry a badge? With Birk, and the head stomping and doing what the mexican out of you? Seattle Police force have proved to me to be a organization that is a danger to the public. Now people will have the right to also state they were afraid for there lives when dealing with Seattle Police Dept. Citizens now can use the same BS line POLICE do, I was scared for my life! At least now over the past year we have proof they are a danger to citizens.

franky said on May 25, 2011 at 10:55 AM

This astounds me, since we all know that criminals are polite and respectful, and usually really like going in to handcuffs as they commit illegal and harmful acts to those upstanding in this society.... Let's just make it so the police are only equipped with a wagging finger at the criminal rat set, that would make us all safe. Seattle, you are in grave danger with this trend of villifying those that protect and serve us, dealing with the lowest levels of evil, that you can't imagine. Keep up the good work, stripping our law enforcement of any pride they have. I know I feel safer already with these suspensions...not.

bazwest said on May 25, 2011 at 8:38 AM

I am encouraged by these suspensions which seems to be a positive effort to raise the professionalism of the SPD. Too bad the officers felt comfortable in the first place using this kind of language with anyone, even a suspect that is dishing it out. This was a byproduct of an underlying management and/or union attitude that was all too willing to insulate officers from consequences of bad behavior. I am always more inclined to take the side of police officers in most conversations, but it is imperative that they conduct themselves with professionalism.

speakinfacts said on May 25, 2011 at 7:57 AM

SPD wont release the video because it makes them look a lot better, if they would release it, you would then see the truth of what SPD is made of, just a bunch of kids with authority and a gun that came with the job. If you would see the footage, your respect and interest in SPD will vanish.

LMiller658 said on May 25, 2011 at 7:46 AM

You could not pay me enough to be a Seattle cop. Having to deal with human trash everyday is enough to make a preacher swear. Having to deal with the Gang Trash, and now on top of everything else, you are piling the Seattle Liberals on top of the cop. Forget it, I would rather be a garbage man. A lot less stress. Seattle Sucks.

dirtydon said on May 25, 2011 at 6:17 AM

You can have your liberal city.

stryker said on May 25, 2011 at 6:09 AM

Schoenberg and Williams both were trying to elicit sexual favors fromt he males in the car. GROSS. Steiger made direct threats of physical violence. SPD should have the pig p!ss stomped out of them.

hebeshebewebe said on May 25, 2011 at 5:52 AM

Seattle has come full circle and now is reaping the liberal tolerance they have encouraged. Now it is unsafe to walk down the street because of all the scum. The police are asked to do an impossible job dealing with all the low lifes that are now third generation scum.

whatsyurbeef said on May 25, 2011 at 5:43 AM

You have the right to remain silent you __________.

matthias said on May 25, 2011 at 5:25 AM

jppatches is right. we have all heard these things before so it should be perfectly acceptable to hear them again as well as freely use them. We have also heard racist and sexist remarks, we should hear them again and use them freely as well. I am sure we have all seen a naked body or two. In the same manner that we have been anesthetized to language, everyone should run around naked including the cops. Honestly though, disrespect, threats and insults never make for a better situation.

waynecrankshaft0 said on May 25, 2011 at 2:47 AM

Lowering yourself to their level has never been a good way to establish authority or command presents. It only raise the chances of physical violence !! ...... And that's not being PC, it's being smarter than the Low Life's your dealing with !! .... Went you utter gutter talk, you are no longer an authority figure !!

BigDave55 said on May 25, 2011 at 1:11 AM

All of these comments were threats not only vulgar. I can understand the occasional swear word in the heat of the moment, but threats is another issue.

jppatches said on May 25, 2011 at 12:55 AM

oh please and no one has ever heard them words before and those who suspended them have never said them...

paulharvey said on May 24, 2011 at 10:50 PM

......."it's the way we have to talk to them, to de-escalate the situation.” You're kidding right? "S--k my D--k" is what you say to de-escalate a situation? How stupid do you think people are?

matthias said on May 24, 2011 at 9:54 PM

A simple F-bomb or something would not be a big deal but the phrases that were used are the problem. I mean the last 2 quotes from the officers ("I’m going to break your (blanking) neck." and "I’m going to skull (blank) you and drag you down the street.") could easily be considered threats which opens the door for charges being filed. When has insulting, demeaning, threatening or challenging a person in such a manner ever made things more calm? When their supervisors addressed them about the situation you think they told the supervisors "I’m going to break your (blanking) neck." so they could "de-escalate" getting chewed out?

dakotanative said on May 24, 2011 at 9:39 PM

So I guess in the new kinder, genteler world the cops should have just kindly asked the gangsters to surrender and not used anything that could be mistaken for force.

dkjamerican said on May 24, 2011 at 9:04 PM

So there would have no problem with the profanity if the Officers would have been latinos or another race??????? Equality under the law will never be.

freedomfrank said on May 24, 2011 at 9:01 PM

Good points Andy,, no one wants to talk about the Gang in Blue and their lies and cover ups. No one wants to admit their "heros" are just over paid mall cops with an attitude.

kinison said on May 24, 2011 at 8:58 PM

Release the dashboard cam! OMG, puh-leaze!

prestologs said on May 24, 2011 at 8:38 PM

This is just sooooo wrong! It proves that you CAN overdo political correctness. Monroe527 said it right - When you are dealing with trash you have to talk trash. I'm also positive they don't take their "work talk" home with them. Just drop the case and let them get back to work - and fire the nut in the Office of Accountability.

andyblue555 said on May 24, 2011 at 8:34 PM

Yet amazingly, None of the officers that have been caught lying on their reports and making false statements are punished at all. with the stomp video they ALL lied. With the shove downtown that officer lied to paramedics saying Christopher Harris ran into the wall head first instead of being shoved backwards. with the Asian cop downtown who he admitted lying in court. with the girl beaten in king county jail both officers lied on their reports. None were disciplined or fired for their lies yet every single case before is now in question. Such disgraceful leadership from both chief Diaz and Sue Rahr. Time to vote out all King County and Seattle city council members who sit in silence while these LIARS are free to abuse our rights again and again. I wont be voting for this mayor again either. They disgrace the people of Seattle and King County.

Calli said on May 24, 2011 at 8:15 PM

I'd cuss up a storm if I was a cop. They better have a shoulder cam, dash cam etc on me because that's the only thing that would keep me under control. If I told someone to su-- my co--, I'd expect to be disciplined. Too bad for the cops.

monroe527 said on May 24, 2011 at 8:00 PM

They should have never been disciplined for this. When you deal with scum and POS people you need to be able speak the language they will understand. This chief and mayor need to grow a back bone. The people that those officers were dealing with really shouldn't have a leg to stand on. I'm sure they put complaints in against any law enforcement they come in contact with. This is getting out of control. If you do law enforcement right you can't avoid complains but they will always come from dirt bags like this.. Who in any other country would get slammed on there face and people could say anything about it. SPD need to get vulgar lang. put into there contract like King County that why they can walk away from these situations with no problem.

wiseone08 said on May 24, 2011 at 7:46 PM

hey skyhawkcva19...look... over there...free beer and NASCAR! (well, now he's gone!)

invalid said on May 24, 2011 at 7:40 PM

Maybe they can transfer to Philadelphia. They'd fit right in.

skyhawkcva19 said on May 24, 2011 at 7:34 PM

All you PC folks out there, if you really want to help our women and men that belive in what they are doing,,, GD let them, and keep the media out of most of it, the media is a nessary evil but if you dont belive they are puupets on a string or two, well then just vote for the ones that filled your head with most sht

Rattler said on May 24, 2011 at 7:30 PM

appeal? fire them.

Search4Truth said on May 24, 2011 at 7:26 PM

SPD hires control freaks and then wonders why they have problems. They need to do a better job with psychological screening of their recruits instead of hiring the scum that applied when the economy was good and there were no better candidates

jdtt1 said on May 24, 2011 at 7:18 PM

That's simply uncalled for. I mean using language GANG members have certainly never heard before is just shocking! Ohhhhhhhh myyyyyyyyyyy. I think that SPD Admin should bend over backwards to prove just how pc they are. That's a really, really, really good idea. Keep it up SPD! You will one day win over the love of everyone and crime will go away. Those gang-bangers will just give it up one day...with your affection. I would work hugs into it somehow.

logic14 said on May 24, 2011 at 7:13 PM

The frofane language could be appropriate in certain situations but what they said is more the issue the actual context. Seattle PD has a lot of work ahead of it. These two officers are being made an example of and there will be many more until they get control of the officers and hold them accountable. It is the Command of the Seattle Police that allowed all this to get this far.

lsmith5870400119 said on May 24, 2011 at 7:13 PM

execute all known gang members.

skyhawkcva19 said on May 24, 2011 at 7:10 PM

Thanks DimpleSkin, but I didnt Join up for Vietnam in the 70's because it was PC, not going to start now, ("What its good for?) Freedom!

wiseone08 said on May 24, 2011 at 7:02 PM

clear2copy, why don't you just come out and say you're a cop? "Establishing a command presence" has nothing whatsoever to do with the vocabulary of a 14 year old boy. Establishing a command presence can be done by giving commands and then enforcing them. And no, that does not mean pushing someone backwards into a wall when their hands are being raised, or shooting a drunk Native American, or tossing a girl around in her cell like she was a rag doll. I understand perfectly these are not merely wayward children the cops are dealing with, but the cop's behavior makes them look undisciplined and poorly trained. Do you want to learn how to establish a command presence when physical intervention is required? Visit a martial arts class. Tell me how much vulgar language you hear. Then tell me vulgar language is a tool used to de-escalate, and establish "command presence".

skyhawkcva19 said on May 24, 2011 at 7:02 PM

Shimo, that is funny, exactly what what I meant! Time to get tough, both with the PC America, but most of all the law abideing people around us need to realize and train to take care of our own and our neighbors, dont just go by a gun, train, train, train, it is a very serious commentment , please dont buy a gun unless you are going to commit to the training.

dgusse2287002319 said on May 24, 2011 at 6:56 PM

Chicken S*** police administration. Disciplining these officers is bullcrap.

DimpleSkin said on May 24, 2011 at 6:56 PM

Careful, skyhawke, Obama might read your post and put the cia on yer ***.

skyhawkcva19 said on May 24, 2011 at 6:50 PM

I have not read the comments on this, but was so reminded of how weak this country, states, cities have become because of pc policies that are in place, sorry, but stupity should hurt (lessends learned) and to deal with pcs of sht you need command! and being polite does not work! straight, well trained police officer will keep the peace, if the pc council/Major will will let them, bring on the National Guard, this City, by the way borned and raised in Seattle, and I am ashamed to amit that , just wanted to express, myself before I read the others, now I will look back and read the rest hey and you spell check commie dont want to hear it:)

wiseone08 said on May 24, 2011 at 6:49 PM

"dealing with obvious gang-bangers, it's the way we have to talk to them, to de-escalate the situation.” Hahahahaha, right, that's going to de-escalate the situation. It works for me every time.

ramigo said on May 24, 2011 at 6:36 PM

"Officer Corey Williams said "I’m going to skull (blank) you and drag you down the street." Now, that's hardcore!

freedomfrank said on May 24, 2011 at 6:19 PM

Shoulda just shot em all and got a free paid vacation

clear2copy said on May 24, 2011 at 6:18 PM

Nuttin like busting cops for establishing a command presence during an arrest.. hey admin.. ever heard of Officer Safety?.. clearly not.

shimo said on May 24, 2011 at 6:11 PM

"But the police office of accountability ruled the profanity lacked professionalism." Sure, if you are doing a TV cop show at 8:00pm family hour, but in the real world using profanity on some certain individual is part of the profession. Did those suspected individuals get their feelings hurt?