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Governor says ferry unions to give up $10 million in perks a year

by SUSANNAH FRAME / KING 5 News

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Posted on March 4, 2011 at 5:39 PM

Updated Saturday, Mar 5 at 2:50 PM

OLYMPIA, Wash. -- The governor announced Friday that the state and ferry unions have struck tentative deals to cut out some of the lucrative perks ferry workers have had for decades.

Gov. Christine Gregoire says the agreements are historic in nature and, if ratified by union members, will save the state $10 million a year.

The details of the agreements are supposed to be secret until union members can be briefed, but sources tell KING 5 News that some of the proposals include a three percent pay cut for most ferry workers. In addition, ferry workers would no longer earn double time for working past their shifts. Instead, they would make time and a half like all other state employees. Also, the multi-million dollar expense of paying fill-in workers to drive to and from their routes would come to an end.

"These are the biggest sacrifices in the history of the ferry system in Washington state. Not only have they led the way for long term savings but also led the way in identifying savings as soon as the contracts are ratified," said Gov. Chris Gregoire.

The agreements come after a year-long KING 5 Investigation of the ferry system. The ongoing series, “Waste on the Water”, exposed millions of wasted taxpayer dollars and a lack of accountability at the state agency.

The first story in the series aired one year ago. It exposed how some fill-in deck hands were able to work the system by choosing to work on routes far away from their homes. Their union contract with the Inland Boatman's Union (IBU) allowed the relief workers with the most seniority to choose where they wanted to work, without a cap on how far they could travel, or how much money they could collect by driving all that way to and from work.

KING 5 found one worker who made more in travel time and mileage pay in 2009 than he did in his base salary. He made $60,000 in base wages that year, but by choosing routes far away from his home he collected nearly $73,000 in travel time and mileage.

If ratified, the new contracts would eliminate that travel pay. In exchange, KING 5 has learned that the fill-in employees would recieve a 17 percent pay increase. But losing the travel pay will still save the state a substantial amount of money every year.

"The tentative contracts are a statement that labor and management in Washington State Ferries can work together to solve problems," said David Moseley, Director of State Ferries.

Unions have been scrambling the last few weeks to get back to the negotiating table with the state to hammer out contracts. The motivation came after lawmakers in both the House and the Senate proposed aggressive ferry reform bills that would have taken away the ability for ferry workers to earn several forms of compensation including double time pay, penalty pay, and travel time and mileage. The bills are still alive and making their way through the legislative process. Sources close to the negotiations tell KING 5 the unions wanted to strike a deal to dissuade lawmakers to pass the bills.

Senator Mary Margaret Haugen, Chair of the Senate Transportation Committee and sponsor of three of the bills, issued a statement after the news conference.

“At the end of the day, whether it’s achieved (reform) through this contract or through my bills, we need a system where the state bargains the same way with all our state employees. This is about parity and fairness across our workforce,” said Haugen.
 

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nonclassical said on March 8, 2011 at 3:47 PM

King 5 will not even allow a reference to follow to Jon Stewart's video. Google up Jon Stewart-Yves Smith-Wisconsin humor fest to see newsmedia talking heads contradicting themselves on relevant issues...

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nonclassical said on March 8, 2011 at 3:44 PM

King 5 has yet again refused to post several attempted relevant sources of information contradicting their story. Some of us here are obviously disallowed from making cogent commentary. If we take the humorous view by Jon Stewart, we find Fox News talking heads completely (Susannah Frame-like) contradicting themselves on the contrast between teachers earning $50,000.00 per year (for example) whom they feel "are paid too much", and earners of over $250,000.00 per year, whom they feel aren't earning enough to pay a tiny portion more of their income in taxes vis-a-vis repeal of Bush tax cuts. As King 5 will not allow the link to Mr. Stewart's quite relevant video, I post the pathway for people to look up:

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scarletletter said on March 8, 2011 at 1:06 AM

as a state employee of 30 years i am embarassed by the real waste i have seen more money wasted by a pen than any 200 workers. it would take every relief employee to abuse in the system 5 years of max travel to match the cost overun on the chetzomoka not to mention the new boats coming .this is the latest in a very long list of massive ineffective managment by politicians kitsap county and other counties served by the ferries should be livid about the service they get rusty boats service cuts and a big middle finger. Labor is the smoke screen to draw your attention from the real waste. The real news story should be waste before the water!!

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scarletletter said on March 8, 2011 at 12:41 AM

wow tell me who the state workers are that hold several federal documents and are responsible for so many peoples lives on a floating island. and who have proven time and again to save lives and transport the paying customers every day in mass. Which state worker gets up at 2am to make sure the boat sails on time. which state worker has to dodge angry drivers enraged by half truths and sensationalised so called news stories . We have been painted with a scarlet letter whats next we all get drug into the square to be stoned this is irresponsible and and a shameful way to get an emmy . most state workers don't have people invited into there office and have deal with whatever issue the angry customer has been fed by a media hell bent on a story. why dont you ask around a little and tell the public that the powers to be purposefully removed gas a tax money out our funding the same gas tax money the ferries customers spend when they fill their tanks

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wiperwally said on March 7, 2011 at 4:45 PM

Maneuvering unlimited horsepower ships between multiple ports and across busy shipping lanes is easy. Working with high tech diesel/propulsion power plants for 12 hours in 100 degree heat with 125-150 decibels of noise gnawing at your head is a piece of cake. I will grant KINGTV this, they have attacked those who have worked hard to provide one of the most miraculous transportation systems ever provided on the planet earth. If the Dupont award is about neglecting the long gone Fairness Doctrine and providing anti-union and anti-middle class wages then I say "Job Well Done". Whatever anyone in this community may think, the propagandized "Waste on the Water" will always be associated with thousands of honest hard working people who do not deserve this defamation of character. KINGTV and Susannah Frame have attacked the very people who make WSF's great. They may as well as called these reports "Ferry Workers Bad".

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captaingreg said on March 7, 2011 at 2:11 AM

To Susannah Frame and King 5 everyone's wages are PERKS. We should all be working for the public good, for free. Sounds a little bit like Karl Marx and Vladimir Lenin to me. They seem to want to turn our state into a "workers paradise" with them at the top as the official mouthpieces of the Commissars. While we're at it, the Ferry System needs new boats. The old ones are worn out. King 5 needs new anchors. The old ones are worn out. I thought one of the senior anchors had developed a dimple in her chin. Turns out to be her belly-button. Must have been pulled a bit too tight. Do svidaniya Tovarisch!

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captaingreg said on March 7, 2011 at 1:58 AM

We all need to complain of Suzie's lies to the Dupont Awards Committee and send them the straight scoop so they humiliate her by making her return her hokey little award (that no one's heard of before). Unless the Dupont folks endorse lies as a business model?

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wiperwally said on March 6, 2011 at 3:01 PM

KINGTV and reporter Susannah Frame have taken their pathological reporting to a new level. UNION members, the actual USCG documented working Merchant Mariners stepped up to the plate AGAIN to sacrifice for the taxpayers, this is the THIRD TIME in four years UNION members have given back multiple MILLIONS of dollars to state coffers. Yet, Susannah Frame and KINGTV have dedicated the bulk of this story to "KINGTV" and "Susannah Frame". Let me set the record straight, KINGTV, Susannah Frame and the WA. ST. Legislature have sacrificed nothing. KINGTV and Susannah Frame headlined this story as if our job is a series of meaningless perks. So the 98% who never once were given the opportunity by management to exploit our paychecks (as those featured in KINGTV's stories) are not given any credit by KINGTV. Does this NBC news affiliate not have one wit of decency? KINGTV, the Home Team Advantage. Dishonest, unequitable and unbalanced.

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4grandma said on March 6, 2011 at 12:19 PM

Wow.....I was so impressed with the union in this story ....until the end. A 17% raise!!! Are you kidding me!! Just think how much we could save with out the RAISE. Is this fair to the taxpayers? NO, NO and NO!

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prestolog said on March 6, 2011 at 10:51 AM

Another possible reason for Suzie's Attack Series; "Heaven has no rage like love to hatred turned / Nor hell a fury like a woman scorned." It would be interesting to know which ferry employee she had a liaison with and came out on the short end. I quired a couple of ferry employees that I know and neither said it was them. One even mentioned something about a 10 foot pole...

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prestolog said on March 5, 2011 at 9:53 PM

Mary Margaret just doesn't get it. Technically, the ferry deck officers and crews, and engineers and oilers are not direct state employees, they are contracted employees of the US Merchant Marine. No one else is permitted under federal law to man and crew the boats, so you aren't going to get a host of strike-breakers off the streets in 72 hours like you could with air traffic controllers. By US Merchant Marine standards, the ferry workers wages are approximately 48% below scale, rate-for-rate. So yes, they are special. Think of them as airline captains, flight engineers, etc. They are worthy of high respect with the right to negotiate union contracts. You should be thankful that you have them.

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david_mack said on March 5, 2011 at 4:51 PM

Notice only the Unions were dealt the blow, NO associations were effected. FAASPA (an good 'ole boys club within ferry management) has been left UNTOUCHED. Could it be the source of Suzie Frames misleading stories were of a FAASPA concoction (aka koolaid) ?? The real savings is in the mis-spent fifedome of 2901, Mr. Moseley advanced his new breakdown of the slimmed down middle management structure of WSF. Only problem is when you flip through the document there are big red X's where he is claiming are reduced positions, some of those people/positions have not worked in those slots for 10 or more years. But Suzie will never look there. because it is those same people who are fueling her tiny "Smoke on the Water" pieces. Moseley's handler @ the public meetings of Divine Intervention is a re-tread himself, a double-dipping retiree as a paid consultant. Misdirection is the key to survival for the Pink/Black parking tags in that 2901 parking garage, just blocks from KING 5.

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thecrankster said on March 5, 2011 at 4:11 PM

"If ratified, the new contracts would eliminate that travel pay. In exchange, KING 5 has learned that the fill-in employees would recieve a 17 percent pay increase" I wish I could get that kind of "CUT". Having public sector collective bargaining is insane.

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laborfaker said on March 5, 2011 at 3:40 PM

garmo98 Well put sir

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yessir said on March 5, 2011 at 1:20 PM

aloha! See? Inspiring!

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yessir said on March 5, 2011 at 1:19 PM

two more thank you's would do... thanks ; )

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yessir said on March 5, 2011 at 1:18 PM

klouhoiuhyoiuhyo... Dude... I wasn't "attacking" your name... I was impressed with your vowel useage. It looks... I don't know... sort Hawaiian... I guess with nice sunny day out there... it inspired me... I went and raked the front yard! I'm thinking of having an umbrella drink now.

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klouhoiuhyoiuhyo said on March 5, 2011 at 1:15 PM

How many billions of dollars do we need to thank them? Thank you union for holding America hostage and just worrying about lining your own pockets. Thank you thank thank you thank you.

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garmo98 said on March 5, 2011 at 12:46 PM

First of all, to those of you who see this as an opportunity to bash Governor Gregoire, I would suggest you might want to follow the whole story. The legislation that opened the door for this situation was signed by then governor John D. Spellman, a Republican. Governors and legislatures from both parties have since not done a proper job as the purse-holders of our public monies, so the blame is truly widespread. Secondly, to those who would love to union bash, if you work an 8 hour day, get paid overtime, have health benefits, paid vacation, or any of a number of other so-called perks, thank a union. If you come home to children who went to school and not a factory, thank a union. Likewise, members of this union should not be made out as some sort of heroes for "giving up" something they should never have had.

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klouhoiuhyoiuhyo said on March 5, 2011 at 12:32 PM

Comeon Nosir,, you can do better than picking on my name.

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yessir said on March 5, 2011 at 12:06 PM

You have to admit... klouhoiuhyoiuhyo has a lot of vowels going for him

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klouhoiuhyoiuhyo said on March 5, 2011 at 11:36 AM

Here's a nice union perk for ya,,, how about a teacher who "retires" for 1 year then can return to full time work AND collect "retirement" sound fair to you? Me either. We need to stop ALL the waste in this country. No more "retirement" benefits before the age of 65 for starters. This includes the military.

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bazwest said on March 5, 2011 at 10:39 AM

Laborfaker, the unions haven't saved the taxpayers a plug nickle in this case, rather they have wasted, and will continue to waste, hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars in our state if they aren't restrained. Me thinks you should cut back a little on the "union happy drugs". The reason this proposal is on the table is because the secret backroom union deals permitting these outrageous perqs have finally been exposed in the media and the governor is embarrassed. When one guy can earn more in travel expenses just to drive to work than he does in salary what does that say about public sector unions in this state? Yes, the chief executive of our state, the governor, is embarrassed because the ferry system, although just a small piece of the state budget, represents the culture of the whole state. We have a culture here of unions heavily funding democrat elections and then democrats mysteriously missing the backbone to negotiate healthy and appropriate union contracts.

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spacedover said on March 5, 2011 at 10:11 AM

The great queen Chrissy has given to unions and now reality catches up to generosity of past, she will have to taketh it back. The American Dream only works if people can afford to pay for it.

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thujaplicata said on March 5, 2011 at 9:41 AM

Don't think the war on the middle class (ie Union Workers) is happening by accident at this time when our country's economy is at its weakest point in decades. While many non-Union workers feel justified seeing their counterparts taking hits across America as some have done here and rejoice because often misery loves company or perhaps they feel they dodged a bullet, what people fail to realize is as the national ideologues and their rabid minions (ie Walker and others) continue to chip away at what is left of America's family wage jobs, soon there will be nothing left but Walmart and Mcdonalds and most of us already know what their pay and benefits are like. That being said, I'm glad to see management and labor working together and aside from Sen. Haugen, most local politicians aren't engaged in Union busting. The Governor pointed out the Legislature still needs to find a funding source for the ferries. Perhaps that is where they should start spending their efforts in the Senate.

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c8lsonics said on March 5, 2011 at 8:26 AM

A few years too late! Now the government workers will know what it's like to be the rest of us as we have had to have pay cuts the last few years!

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yessir said on March 5, 2011 at 6:23 AM

tell Wisonsin's Governor Walker that unions are "dead"... he has his hands full right now... and he's slowly, but surely losing traction.

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govmtisawaste said on March 5, 2011 at 12:32 AM

"if ratified by the Union Members" how about giving them a "this or Unemployed" as the options? Ronald Reagan knew how to negotiate with a Union. Just ask all the Air Traffic Controllers. Unions are dead. Stop feeding a dead horse. CG, you are not a leader at all. It took a TV station to bring this to your attention. Too bad you don't work for the Seattle School District, you see how they get rid of incompetence.

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chiapetto said on March 4, 2011 at 9:54 PM

Well, that's excellent, Christine, but I still have not heard of one dime in salary or perks cuts from your own salary! How about it? You of all people should have been the FIRST to take a 10% pay cut and a 50% cut in perks. Well? We're listening...

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laborfaker said on March 4, 2011 at 9:35 PM

@bazwes so you don't like the fact that the unions just saved the state over 9 million a year ? Interesting

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laborfaker said on March 4, 2011 at 9:31 PM

@bazwest really so you don't like the fact that the unions at WSF just saved the state million a year. Interesting

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bad23dad23 said on March 4, 2011 at 9:03 PM

I cann't believe you think the WSF don't deserve those benifits. How many lives are in there hands everyday. Guess what they do One heck of a good Job. I believe the politicans of this country don't deserve one more trip to Washington DC to talk to the president, when we have video confences. How much did that cost the tax payers? The women running this state is so wasteful and incompitent it makes me sick. The politians of this country need to have there salaries cut and no medical lets see how they like that.

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bazwest said on March 4, 2011 at 9:03 PM

This is a prime example of why public sector unions should have collective bargaining rights limited.

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lfpmom said on March 4, 2011 at 8:29 PM

Is anyone interested in knowing what ferry management has given up to keep the ferries afloat? Nothing!

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layindownthelaw3 said on March 4, 2011 at 8:21 PM

Funding source? The ferries make more money than they spend but with all of it going into the states general fund it just gets wasted on all the states problem areas.

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laborfaker said on March 4, 2011 at 8:18 PM

@ klouhoiuhyoiuhyo these unions should be thanked for making such a tough sacrifice in these hard economical times my heart goes out to every ferry worker and their loved ones GOD BLESS YOU

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laborfaker said on March 4, 2011 at 7:50 PM

@ thujaplicata you bring up a very good point ! if such a small system like WSF had this much waist , I wonder how much the state could save if they looked at the bigger ones

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laborfaker said on March 4, 2011 at 7:33 PM

way to go unions Governor Walker of Wisconsin are you taking notes ? this is how its done ! S.Frame please watch the video again on W T.V. once again you have your numbers wrong again me thinks maybe you just like misreporting the news !

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thujaplicata said on March 4, 2011 at 6:41 PM

Glad to see management and labor working together to get the Ferries back on an even keel. The Governor's news conference video on TVW.org says the savings are more than $9 million a year from the workers. The Governor pointed out the Legislature still needs to find a funding source for the ferries. If King 5 can do so well highlighting Ferry waste I can hardly wait to see the number they do on the waste at a mega-agency like DSHS.

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klouhoiuhyoiuhyo said on March 4, 2011 at 6:05 PM

Too bad we need to wait until the country is on the brink of bankruptcy to flush the union waste down the toilet.

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