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Seattle church opening parking for homeless car campers

by JAKE WHITTENBERG / KING 5 News

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Posted on January 30, 2012 at 7:55 AM

Updated Monday, Jan 30 at 9:28 AM

SEATTLE -- A first of its kind project launches this week that allows homeless families to live in their vehicles in a Seattle church parking lot.

 "We prefer to call it 'safe parking,'" said Pastor Stephen Grumm of Our Redeemer's Lutheran Church in the Loyal Heights neighborhood.

Grumm and the church congregation will be opening up five parking spaces for homeless families living our of their car. They will also have access to the church restrooms and outlets for charging
cell phones.

The City of Seattle is paying $30,000 to Compass Housing Alliance to oversee the program, which will help accommodate the families and offer on site resources to help them find a job and new permanent housing.

"We want to provide a safe place, a temporary place to create a sense of transition," said Grumm. "Our hope is that they will be recognized as people in need."

But not everyone is 100 percent sold on the idea. Many neighbors are concerned and Grumm said the spaces have been already been relocated once because of concerns from a neighbor.
 
"A while is a while, but forever is forever," said Mike Galloway, a separate neighbor who has concerns. "People have got to go to church too you know."

But Pastor Grumm insists the program will be safe and designed to help get families back on their feet, and the congregation has been working with neighbors to alleviate any concerns.
 
City of Seattle Councilman Mike O'Brien said its important that these families have a safe place to get back on their feet.
 
"These folks are close to being out on the street and their family being split up," he said. "We don't want that to happen."
 
The city estimates about 500 people in Seattle currently live out of their vehicle.

The church and the city have been trying to get the program going for years. They say they're now ready to get it going and isn't the only church starting a "safe parking" program.

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Conseula said on January 30, 2012 at 6:00 PM

Yes, it is Godly that this church is so gracious..I just hope that it doesn't end up like what is happening with the "occupy" people protesting all over the country...Five will get you ten, nothing good will come out of this gesture..Here we go again...Church doesn't have the insurance to cover these people using their private property and indoor facilities..So the City plans on handling any problems, accidents by the homeless and will sue the City/at tax payer expense.. I know at this point in time there are many good families who are homeless..good people have lost their jobs, their homes and they deserve all the help we can give them..But time will tell if it is the good or the bad or the ugly, taking advantage of this churches kindness.

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tpete19 said on January 30, 2012 at 4:29 PM

How can you register a car without an address? Do these homeless drivers still have insurance?

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proudofgrandkids said on January 30, 2012 at 3:35 PM

. . . "A while is a while, but forever is forever," said Mike Galloway, a separate neighbor who has concerns. "People have got to go to church too you know." . . . Only five spaces and someone is complaining about that? WHAT has happened to compassion in our country and our neighborhoods. My great thanks to the church and its members for seeing a need and filling part of it! And, yes, I would have no problem with having those spaces in a location near me! In case all you complainers out there haven't noticed, it's COLD outside! If you don't like it, go donate some food or money or blankets to an organization near you that helps keep our unwilling homeless families alive.

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tango216 said on January 30, 2012 at 2:32 PM

Think about it, those of you who hate the homeless: With a reversal of fortune, you, too, could be one of them.

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CrichSeattle said on January 30, 2012 at 1:30 PM

I see this as being the type of compassionate and helpful act that we all wish the churches would participate in. You people in the community should be thinking of ways to help instead of hindering this effort. Can you imagine having to give up your apartment and live out of your car and then finding out that it illegal to sleep in your car and unsafe to do so? Recently a neighbor down the street was unemployed so long that they lost their apartment. Although I didn't know them, when I heard the story, I thought, how close are we all to this tragedy? Tent cities can sometimes be populated with alcoholics and social misfits who refuse to conform to the rules of shelters and rehab centers. If this church wants to give assistance to people to want it, a few at a time, we should applaud their efforts. If they are respectful and their cars are not broken down, they should be allowed to park there. Way to Go, Pastor Grumm!

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jbmoran said on January 30, 2012 at 1:19 PM

$30K for 5 families works out to $6K/yr or $500/mo. each. Can't better shelter be provided for $500? While I applaud Seattle for funding this program, I think they might be able to use their financial muscle to work a better deal for shelter. My 2¢, jbm

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dakotanative said on January 30, 2012 at 12:58 PM

If these people are so great, open your home to them. A warm bed and shower every day has to be even better than living in the car.

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ANONY said on January 30, 2012 at 12:36 PM

I encourage critics to stop and think about it: circumstances in life can make any of us homeless. Many of today's homeless never thought it could happen to them, either. Open your hearts. Whether these folks are families or single people, they need a hand.

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ANONY said on January 30, 2012 at 12:32 PM

Bless you Pastor Grumm and neighbors who support this plan. A church nearby my place in Issaquah supported a homeless camp in their parking lot and I went up with donations. I encourage neighbors to open their hearts and wallets (or donations of food, clothing) to our neighbors in need. THIS, in my view, is the greatest service a church and members can do: share with families in need.

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tango216 said on January 30, 2012 at 10:35 AM

I give this church credit for doing something to help those who have no homes. I don't know why so many people fear the homeless. They are no more dangerous than anybody else.

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shoreline said on January 30, 2012 at 9:42 AM

It will be interesting to see how many of these car campers are actually families as opposed to single people. Also, most of these "cars" end up being old, broken down RV's. Not that it really matters, but the decription given doesn't match reality.

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shanedillon said on January 30, 2012 at 9:17 AM

I was at the meeting and my concern is about liability insurance. Mike O'Brien stated for the record that the city would be taking care of this as the churches insurance DOES NOT cover the program (this was stated in the meeting by the church secretary).

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klberkey said on January 30, 2012 at 8:34 AM

They have to be able to park somewhere. You may not notice it, but people that live in their cars are sleeping wherever they can and are already in these neighborhoods. This will be a bit of comfort they can have till they get back on their feet. I'm sure that there will be some uproar, by people who can't see how gracious this is. I commend them for offering a place for the homeless to go and feel safe at.

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duckling said on January 30, 2012 at 8:11 AM

Bravo! This is really something that can help people get their lives back together to reenter the workforce.

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