Port Orchard pastor arrested for alleged child rape

clear2copy said on February 17, 2011 at 8:43 PM

Is god willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him god...

97850 said on February 17, 2011 at 5:34 PM

pete35: If there is a god, why didn't he (it) intervene? How could any god allow such an atrocity? There's your proof right there. Not proof of believing in nothing, but believing that the whole god thing is mumbo jumbo.

crowin said on February 17, 2011 at 1:46 AM

judge not lest ye be judged. innocent until proven guilty.

skrose said on February 16, 2011 at 11:45 PM

IN REPLY TO: reader54 said on February 16, 2011 at 3:31 PM Why am I am I never surprised when the humble spokesmen of God's Word commit such atrocious acts. They sure are arrogant, aren't they? Sick. Why would I want to be a Christian when time and time again, these leaders commit such evil against other humans and especially children? Irks me. ************************************************************************ ANYONE can commit "atrocious acts". Christians are people too just like anyone else. No one is perfect, ARE YOU??? Judge not lest YOU be judged. Kind of sounds like YOU are the arrogant sick person. What goes around comes around.

reader54 said on February 16, 2011 at 11:43 PM

Hey, oh wiseone08. I guess your experiences with Christians is different than mine. How good are you at math?

pete35 said on February 16, 2011 at 10:56 PM

To 97580-You say there is no God as fact. This is just your opinion and you cant prove that. Actually atheists have an incredible faith of belieiving in nothing, now that is stupid in my opinion.

pete35 said on February 16, 2011 at 10:54 PM

All you anti-religious bigots are pathetic. This has nothing to do with religion. This just happened to be a pastor who was not following religious teachings. This is considered wrong in any religion. How would you like it if we labeled all atheists as bad because the communists who were athesits killed over 100 million people. So stop blaming and labeling all religious people as bad because of the actions of a few. It is ignorant and stupid.

mlloyd said on February 16, 2011 at 10:36 PM

They were careful not to indicate a gender of the victim. Seems clear that it's a male. You just know this guy has been bounced around within the clergy after repeated complaints of this type of behavior. It seems like all clergy are a bunch of pedophiles. All religion needs to be flushed down a toilet, especially Mormons and Muslims.

commonsensewa said on February 16, 2011 at 9:17 PM

Predators always prey on the weak minded and what better place to find those than within organized religion. Aka the opium of the masses....

plutonomics said on February 16, 2011 at 8:56 PM

Hey not that I'm down with Christians, or religion at all. I personally think it's a scam. However, usually it's the Catholics that molest the children. If we are gonna stereotype, lets make sure it the right group. Who wants to bet this guy is Catholic?

rite2post said on February 16, 2011 at 7:53 PM

@ loshan66... You are correct about LOVE... that sick man love little innocent children, not the same way we love our children.... I hope the church doesn't spend millions of donated money to bail this sicko out of prison.

loshan66 said on February 16, 2011 at 6:59 PM

I have met many wonderful true Christians, there are a lot out there, but the ones that seem to be in the spot light yelling the most are the ones that have missed the most important aspect of being a Christian, and that is to love. It 's amazing if you follow that golden rule and make a practice of making sure that everything you do is filtered with love, you wont be so inclined to hate and hurt others like this pastor and so many others have done. If you declare to others that you are a Christian then your first mandate is to love everyone equally....even your enemies. A person that can practice that, truly is a Christian. You can search the bible throughout and you will not find any passages that allow you to hate others.

97850 said on February 16, 2011 at 6:47 PM

Where was god when this was happening? Oh, wait. There is no god.

wiseone08 said on February 16, 2011 at 6:44 PM

reader54, I couldn't agree more! Whenever I see an arithmetic error, I immediately make my case for repudiating all mathematics!

bfailing21667331 said on February 16, 2011 at 6:24 PM

The church is a BIG CULT

horseboy said on February 16, 2011 at 5:27 PM

I rented a room in a household from a Methodist pastor. He certainly practiced differently from what he preached and heard he ended up in trouble with the law.

maxxcor said on February 16, 2011 at 5:23 PM

And so many Christians are upset that their under attack. No wonder! The news about Christians involved in child molestation never puts things in a positive light. Add to that the messages of ignorance and hate put forth by some Christians and the image isn't a good one. There are lots of good people who are Christian and do fine work. Unfortunately too many are giving them a bad reputation. It's time to clean up the churches, get rid of the hate and criminals and maybe people will consider Christianity again but for now, who wants to be associated with these people.

banditrider said on February 16, 2011 at 4:55 PM

I've never held pastors, reverends, priests, etc. on a high pedestal. They are human with human faults like anyone else. It is really sad that they exploit when such a high trust is placed in them.

reader54 said on February 16, 2011 at 4:31 PM

Why am I am I never surprised when the humble spokesmen of God's Word commit such atrocious acts. They sure are arrogant, aren't they? Sick. Why would I want to be a Christian when time and time again, these leaders commit such evil against other humans and especially children? Irks me.