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$400 million spent before cement poured for new 520 bridge

by SUSANNAH FRAME / KING 5 News

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Posted on March 17, 2011 at 10:51 PM

Updated Friday, Mar 18 at 6:18 AM

SEATTLE -- For any construction project, planning is key. And to replace the 520 bridge across Lake Washington for safety reasons, the State of Washington has planned, and planned, and planned some more -- 14 years of it.

Jonathan Dubman, a Montlake resident, is a die-hard 520 community activist who's attended hundreds of planning meetings. He's been there from the beginning leading citizen input.

"This has been an incredibly frustrating process," Dubman said. "This project had a reputation for being divisive and for inaction about a decade ago. And I never thought that we would still be here in 2011 having these conversations without having really started construction on the project."

The State of Washington is still having the conversation and spending. The KING 5 Investigators have obtained billing records going back to 1997 when work to replace the bridge first began. The reporters found while nothing significant has been built, plenty has been spent.

So far, taxpayers have paid more than $377 million on studies, planning, buying properties and a small amount of construction. Roughly $20 million has been spent on preparing for tolling. Citizens of Seattle chipped in more. Seattle spent another $1 million for additional studying. All of it totals to $398 million tax dollars spent so far.

"It's extraordinary!" said Mike Ennis, Washington Policy Center's Transportation Expert. "The original bridge cost $34 million to build in 1963. Adjusting for inflation, in 2011 dollars, the existing bridge had a total cost of $245 million. They've already spent more in just planning and design than the cost of the original bridge structure. You have to ask yourself as a taxpayer, what are they doing to increase these costs?"

The majority of the money has gone to a long list of consultants for engineering, project management and community relations. Consultants are not cheap. The state has paid nearly $7.7 million to one community relations firm, EnviroIssues, to gather public opinion and get the word out about 520.

"I think in today's climate, a lot of people would be outraged that the state is spending this kind of money without getting any real benefit on the ground," said Dubman.

Of course with any job, time is money -- and the 520 bridge timing got off course. In 2001, after already studying the project for four years, the WSDOT put out these messages for the public: A final design should be in place by winter, 2002. Construction begins in mid-2004, if financing is available. Off-peak tolling would be $0.80.

Those things didn't happen. Construction is now set to start a decade later, and some off-peak tolls will cost triple that amount.

It's unusual for KING 5 to do an investigative story with out getting all sides. We tried. This week, the KING 5 Investigators requested an on-camera interview with Secretary of Transportation, Paula Hammond. Instead of granting that request, WSDOT tried a new strategy -- putting its own spin on the numbers. Today, WSDOT posted all the financial data that KING 5 requested on its website. That's why KING is airing the story now, with no interview from the state.

We did reach David Dye, Assistant Secretary of WSDOT, by telephone. He said the money spent so far is reasonable for a multi-billion dollar mega-project. Dye also said early messages to the public were optimistic, but didn't pan out due to trouble getting the public, politicians and WSDOT to agree on a design and how to pay for it.

Jonathan Dubman said despite years of consensus building, most communities around 520 still aren't happy.

"I'm especially aghast that after all of these years we still don't have a project that we can afford that prioritizes public safety, and that really fixes the transportation issues," said Dubman.

The total budget to replace 520 is now $4.65 billion. About $2 billion of that is still unfunded and will mean tolling on other roads or new taxes to finish the job.

If the state stays on track, they're hoping to have cars on the new bridge in 2014 -- 17 years after the planning began.

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sideobserver said on March 24, 2011 at 3:00 PM

wrong geescott, Waste is the program King &Snohomish and the DOT are best at. They build roads and infrastructure on the side. They work at a snails. No urgency. They cater to Unions that lather the projects with costs per hour so the small minority contractor like me find it hard to keep the same help we pay $15.00 per hour to sweep a job up. But on public works it over $44.00 per hour. It breaks down their job moral when not working on prevailing wage jobs. the Unions know this.

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oldlewy said on March 19, 2011 at 11:31 AM

For misuse of a mere $2,000,000 Seattle released Seattle's school superintendent. Who's head should role for this?

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enjuneerron said on March 19, 2011 at 8:11 AM

KING 5 fails to honestly account for the cost difference they claim exists: 1. The first bridge design is deficient, had it been designed to the same seismic performance it would have cost more in 1963. 2. The first bridge had to have over 30,000 lf of cracks repaired after the 1993 Inaugural Day storm. The design was deficient for the loads. 3. The new bridge is 2x the width of the existing bridge. It is designed to accomodate a future addtional 35' of width for light rail making it 2.5x the width of the existing. 4. The new bridge and highway will be built in an existing corridor, staged to accomodate the current traffic loads. The old bridge and highway were not. 5. Environmental laws are far more stringent today, resulting in far more environmental studies and mitigation. 6. The commonly used index of construction costs is the ENR Cost Index which was 901 in 1963 and over 9000 today. Sloppy research by KING, though it fits their purposes. 7. And much much more,

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joeblow said on March 19, 2011 at 6:42 AM

Got to spend money to make money. Put a nice fat toll on it when complete.

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geescott said on March 19, 2011 at 6:16 AM

No Robin, I stand by my comments. A lot of the 'waste' of money on that project was environmental 'mitigation'. And there were penalties assessed for the contractor stockpiling wood debris in a wetland area that resulted in fines and more environmental resoration work. That was a huge project. And the messed up ramp in Tacoma Nalley Valley? $800,000 sounds like a lot right? Try .02% of the 1.2 BILLION dollar project cost. point oh two percent. unfortunate mistake yes, calamity no. This was pretty much caused by the legislature changing priorities and schedules to appease voters.

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libradad said on March 18, 2011 at 9:26 PM

And they complain about waste in the ferries? In the prisons, In DSHS, by teachers in education? Now this is WASTE. BIG TIME WASTE. All that money went to private contractors, private sector indepentdent business big and small. Now who is feeding in the government trough. And we still are billions away from the bridge. This is where we need to cut. After 14 years? Forget it. And they blame public employee and unions for waste? These decisions on contracts and studies are not made by labor. Nope, that is upper level, bloated management

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logic14 said on March 18, 2011 at 6:08 PM

Just remember that DEMOCRATS run this State.

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tanglefoot1947 said on March 18, 2011 at 5:27 PM

I see in todays paper the State trying to plus a $201 million hole in the budget and this kind of wasteful spending I can understand. Also watching this video and seeing our Gov breaking ground makes me sick the way she spends spends and spends

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tanglefoot1947 said on March 18, 2011 at 2:21 PM

And people wonder why this State is going broke, from ferry system to this what a joke. It's time we vote all these people out of office

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davebrownspoint said on March 18, 2011 at 12:14 PM

Everybody knows you have to do a ton of planning to get anywhere. And some of the bloggers are right, with the cacophony of alternative viewpoints and crackpot schemes, it's probably 10X too much. Just let DOT do what the requirements say and the (sometimes) screwy regulations dictate. Don't farm it out to the equally incompetent private sector--they'll just stick ya for a profit margin too. That's the cheapest approach. Our house remodel took 6 years to plan and get ready, and 14 weeks to actually construct. Planning and readiness activities took about 20% of our budget. This analogy doesn't match a big ol' bridge, but I can accept a good deal of planning because it makes the result go smoother and cost less.

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robins55 said on March 18, 2011 at 11:50 AM

Sorry Hourforum, my last comment should have ben for "geescott"

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robins55 said on March 18, 2011 at 11:47 AM

To Hourforum and the comments made. and I quote "OLYMPIA, Wash. -- The project to widen Highway 18 back in 2003 was supposed to cost about $55 million. But an auditor's report said it ended up costing nearly twice that and big mistakes led to big cost overruns. It was a whistle-blower, a WSDOT worker, who brought the complaint to the state auditor's office. The worker said the project was a "gross waste of public funds" and the auditor's office agreed. It took the state 5 years to widen a 21-mile stretch of Highway 18 from Maple Valley to the Issaquah-Hobart Road exit. The original bid came in at nearly $56 million. But the actual final price tag was nearly $90 million. The audit blames inadequate management, design errors and environmental problems and fines." Hey hourforum, do you want to revise your comments!!!!!

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robins55 said on March 18, 2011 at 11:35 AM

This whole project is a waste of money. If the existing users can't merge onto either 405 or I-5 due to there limited capacity, how will adding two more lanes change this existing gridlock? Until the capacity of 405 and I-5 is increased the new 520 bridge is just going to compound this problem. The $400,000,000.00 should have been used to tear down the Convention Center which would eliminate the major bottleneck on the I-5 corridor. Leave 520 as a 4 lane bridge, fix the pontoons and strengthen the earthquake prone structures and use the rest of the money on something that makes sense. In ten to twenty years Seattle is going to be a ghost town just like Detroit. With the politics the way they are why would a new company want to locate in Seattle. I live on the eastside, I have not been to Seattle in years. We don't have to pay for parking to shop, we don't have shooting every Friday night and we don't have Mayor McNuttjob.

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kbbcoop said on March 18, 2011 at 11:34 AM

Geeee...there is just nowhere to cut the budget! Government does their job so well, cant wait till they take over healthcare!!!

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geescott said on March 18, 2011 at 11:06 AM

Oh, Suzannah- When you finish your report on the 520 bridge project, make sure you point out all the wasted money spent by the Consultants. Don't say it was "DOT". The legislators are requiring use of consultants they think a better and cheaper. They are neither.

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geescott said on March 18, 2011 at 9:09 AM

WSDOT employees are fully capable of planning, designing and administrating the construction of these projects. It's the 'community activist' nutjobs, the polititian nutjobs and wishy washy decision makers (legislature picks which projects are built) that waste all the money. Just wait. Many WSDOT employees/engineers are being fired in the next two years, because polititions have finally caved in to pressure from the private sector for this work. They are using the poor funding situation as an excuse, but it has been made clear major changes are coming. Most future projects will be 'design-build', meaning the consultants and contractors will be doing all this work. All for cost plus profit and overhead (in the interest of their stockholders). So if you think it was expensive before, you ain't seen nothin' yet! Plus, they'll be in it for short term profit, not long term ownership / pride in work of WSDOT employees. You'll see.

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hourforum said on March 18, 2011 at 9:08 AM

400 million dollars, and what do we get? NOTHING! The "study and plans" could have been done for less than half of that money. Talk about waste! We do not need a NEW 520 bridge. We SHOULD REPLACE the bridge sections with IDENTICAL parts- and leave it alone. No toll, no nothing. Before it is over, the state will say it would cost three billion dollars to replace it- and OOPS there are cost over runs which will cost an EXTRA ten million dollars. AH the state then pays it. This is just as stupid as stupid gets

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skok_cush said on March 18, 2011 at 9:06 AM

GeeScott said it Perfect. . . . . .Good Job

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geescott said on March 18, 2011 at 9:00 AM

You want to blame someone? Start by looking at yourselves, YOU NIMBYs, YOU Envronmentalists, YOU Elected Officials who creat expensive regulations, and YOU voters who allow these Fed/State/Local laws to remain on the books. Look in the mirror.

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cpenrico24274615 said on March 18, 2011 at 8:53 AM

Get it right KING5! "Cement" is a powder! Pouring bags of powder. Okay with that. But it's not going to be very strong. In fact, not strong at all until mixed with sand, rock and water. "Cement" is only one component that makes up what is commonly known as "Portland Cement Concrete". So do your research if you want to get readership. Or viewers!

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brewster said on March 18, 2011 at 8:45 AM

Imagine that!

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matthias said on March 18, 2011 at 8:37 AM

The City and the State should just buy everyone a George Jetson Flying Space Car. This would be cheaper than the transportation projects they seem to fail at repeatedly.

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kinison said on March 18, 2011 at 8:15 AM

And the 520 bridge was almost blocked by Mayor McGinn because it didnt have an option for light rail, which i think were 20 years away from getting one on 520 as were already building light rail going to Bellevue via I-90. I remember countless studies being forced by NIMBY folks who kept trying to block the third runway at Sea-Tac. What should have cost 220 million, ballooned to a billion thanks to concenred residents.

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pixelater said on March 18, 2011 at 7:48 AM

If this was the property just scant miles south of Montlake, the state would have already condemned the property and taken it by eminent domain for the benefit of the state as a whole. Instead they let a few prominent property owners control the fate of a project that affects hundreds of thousand other citizens.

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scott_bellevue said on March 18, 2011 at 7:46 AM

It's not the planners fault, it's the Seattle area taxpayers, voters, who have been so incredibly indecisive and unable to make any decisions about our local transportation. It's like watching a bunch of bratty kids argue over a playground. We've become like the Republican party that only knows how to say no, but won't move forward with anything.

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chuckstr76 said on March 18, 2011 at 6:14 AM

And who is watching over the spending, NO ONE, Just like the Seattle school district... Like flys to honey they gather to collect their fruits...

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freedomfrank said on March 18, 2011 at 4:51 AM

LOL, and you want to let these people build a 2 billion dollar hamster tube in Seattle???? Yeah,, OK. Bwaaaaaaaaahahahahahahaaaahahahaha I wouldnt let these people build a pig pen.

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MrMadMac said on March 18, 2011 at 3:06 AM

waste they think things to death and get nowere get the job done and keep your pie hole shut and if you can't get out we are tired of the wasted money

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mqforrest said on March 18, 2011 at 1:11 AM

People should know that Jonathan Dubman is one of the Montlake area residents who insisted that the 520 bridge replacement be no larger than the present bridge. That is, four lanes with no shoulders, despite the enormous population growth since the first bridge was built in 1963. His group is one of the reasons the 520 bridge replacement is taking so long and costs so much. The last I heard, they were still threatening to file a lawsuit over the present design. Also, I don't believe financing was available in mid 2004, due in part to passage of Tim Eyman's initiative 695. But the main holdup has been an attitude of no compromise by some Montlake area residents. I don't know the reasons for WSDOT not wanting to discuss this on air. But without their input this story is quite one sided. Also: HLBird You are right that some of the plans for US 2 improvements go back as far as the late 1960's. But, plans aside, there has never been enough money to do major improvements.

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musikpal said on March 17, 2011 at 11:56 PM

@least there's a plan......unlike when the city turned car lanes into bicycle lanes. Those who use N. 130th st. between Greenwood Ave. N. and Aurora Ave. N. know what I'm talking about.

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cup0pizza said on March 17, 2011 at 11:30 PM

Gee! The people in charge of this scam are liars, thieves and ABSOLUTE IDIOTS!! What a surprise.

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HLBird said on March 17, 2011 at 11:09 PM

I can appreciate your story about the spending that has gone on and on for the 529 bridge project without any concrete poured. If you think $400,000,000 is a lot, you should check into the amount the state has spent on studying improvements to State Highway #2. I have lived in this area for 29 years and the state has had plans on the table for improvements to Hwy 2 for as long as I can remember. Some for as long as 40 years I have been told. These include a bipass of Monroe. Leaders are agast at the loss of life over the years on this highway and yet all they can do is study,study & study with little if any actions. Millions have been spent on studies and consultants and yet people continue to die. Where does the studying end and action start? Mr Howard Bird

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jgcimino said on March 17, 2011 at 11:06 PM

We need to finance our public works by raiding the pensions and savings of old people. And, the best way to do that is to just print a load of money.

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