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Couple still pushing for bill to have drug stores take back meds

by GLENN FARLEY - KING 5 News

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Posted on February 4, 2012 at 7:25 PM

Updated Thursday, Feb 9 at 5:05 PM

GRANITE FALLS, Wash. - Tyler Vaughan was 18 years old when on August 29 of 2010 he died of a drug overdose.  But it wasn't from meth, or cocaine, or crack or heroin.  It was a prescription drug hidden in a living room cabinet for a few days awaiting disposal at the local solid waste transfer station. He found them first.

"When you see your kid has like blue lips, there's something wrong," said Tyler's mother Rebecca Runyon.  

Runyon says it's estimated her son took 40 pills.  She thinks he believed if he took enough of the gout medication it would result in the same high as an Oxycotin tablet.  But she says her son made a fatal assumption.  The gout medication relieved joint pain by shrinking swelling - not as a narcotic.  In Tyler's body the prescription medicine amounted to a poison.

Runyon and Tyler's step-dad Andrew Maggard testified in the 2011 legislative session on behalf of a bill that would allow organizations the option to run a drug collection site financed by drug companies.  The bill failed that year, and proponents fear it could fail again this year.

Right now, you can take many drugs, even containing narcotics, to a local police station or sheriff's office where the staff has been trained to receive them, and the drugs are gathered up under tight controls and incinerated.

Such a disposal box is located at the Granite Falls police station. But the box in the small police station is only available during business hours Monday through Friday. Not on the weekends.  There aren't that many police stations and the public is largely unaware that they exist.

"We have 28 sites.  There are 150 pharmacies in the county,"  says Pat Slack, Commander of the Snohomish Regional Drug Task Force, which interfaces with law enforcment agencies across the county.

Slack says Bartell's pharmacies can also take back some drugs.

But overall the drug industry has lobbied against the legislation.  Those opposed argue that better public education about the dangers would be more productive than an industry paid take back program  that if passed could be the first in the U.S.  They point to Vancouver, B.C., Canada where such a take back program is in effect, but relatively few people actually avail themselves of the opportunity to clear risk from their medicine cabinets.

It's hard to know even in Tyler's case if the program would have made a difference as his parents planned to take the drugs (that came from a deceased relatives home that was being cleaned out) and dispose of them at the dump anyway.  But his death illustrates what can happen, and does happen across the country when what is prescribed with the expertise of a doctor ends up in the hands of someone who has no idea what he's about to pop into his mouth.

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lilredcv said on April 25, 2012 at 4:38 PM

Prescription drugs flushed down the toilet can and DO end back up in your drinking water supply. Filters can only do just so much to take them back out. That's why prescriptions should NEVER be crushed and flushed. Anything dumped into a landfill becomes a part of it... those drugs can and will contaminate soil - so much so that eventually we won't ever have to worry about Monsanto (with their GMOs) or pesticides used in our environment.

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terpmom said on February 6, 2012 at 10:49 AM

What's wrong with just crushing them up and flushing them down the toilet? It's not THAT hard to dispose of them... or putting them in a used tin can and putting it in the garbage?? Plenty of options people...

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agarmy said on February 6, 2012 at 9:20 AM

Shoreline, it's harder to destroy sharps than it is drugs. Throw an old sharp away, and anybody could come by and get stuck with it, or take it for their own recreational drug use. Next thing you know, they are risking HIV/AIDS. Destroying your meds at home is easy. It seems though, that the drug industry doesn't want to pay for these dropboxes. They are right in the sense that the public does need to be better educated on the proper use of medications, and the proper disposal of them. It probably wouldn't have worked in this case, since the guy either wanted a high, or a way out.

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charleylechein said on February 5, 2012 at 1:38 PM

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Two different souces have reported this as "Taylor" not "Tylor". Guess both those souces are wrong. Anyone from the family make sure these sources got the name correct before publishing the stories? Ive never had labels that became unreadable, not unless I cross out the name of the pills then you cant read it. Why would anyone take a med that was written for someone else? There are enough meds that have warnings on them with side affects "which may include death". I take one med for gout, its a generic called ALLOPURINOL. Did mommy and daddy ever talk to him about taking meds for others or opps... not a problem our son is smart he will be the president of the USA someday! Parents need to talk to sons and daugjhters about taking meds for that are meant for other people. Now we may have another law for kids that dont know right from wrong. Accept responsibility..... be a parent. oh not every Bartells takes used meds. Found that out last year.

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thetruth01 said on February 5, 2012 at 12:13 PM

Ok a few things here 1) their child was a LEGAL ADULT not a little kid and he KNEW the consequences of his STUPID (and fatal) actions 2) Why did they have medication from a deceased family member kicking around the house, I don't know ANYONE that packs that stuff up everyone else just throws it away (and I don't want to hear bs about how they were waiting to find the appropriate place blah blah blah) 3) if they knew their child had a drug problem (and I am sure they had a red flag or two) than why did they even bring the drugs into the house? why didn't they LOCK THEM UP? COLLEGEGUY? why is it the pharmacies responsibility? does that mean that when I am done wit my steak the grocery store should take the t-bone back because my dog could choke on it after digging it out of the trash and they only pick up the trash once a week? THIS IS RIDICULOUS IT IS THERE RESPONSIBILITY AND THEY SCREWED UP THE ONLY PEOPLE THEY CAN BLAME FOR THEIR SONS SUICIDE IS THEM AND THEIR SON!

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mcrain092 said on February 5, 2012 at 10:18 AM

The mom says she believes that her son took 40 pills in order to recreate the high feeling you get from taking Oxy...... so you really think your son thought taking 40 pills of ANY sort would be safe? It sounds more like a suicide attempt to me. I don't think anyone in their right frame of mind would think they can take 40 pills and be just fine. I just hope the parents aren't trying to cover something else up like they knew he was depressed and they should of been aware of his actions. Anyways, thats all besides the point. The pont is someone died who shouldn't have. RIP taylor. Also, parents - please teach your kids not to touch pills. My grandparents (who i was raised by) always had their meds in the cabinet. I've grown up around vicodin and valium and cyclobenzaprine, etc. but I always knew there were "yuck" growing up lol just educate your kids and if you don't feel safe having them there, then lock them up or throw them away for good!

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mrcrowley said on February 5, 2012 at 9:09 AM

Having a child is no guarantee that the child will outlive yourself---and we all die in the end. Why any other person, other than Taylor's parents would be held responsible for this child's actions/mistake is preposterous. They owned the house and medicine cabinet. You could balme the sun for rising, that day, for all these people are concerned. They are traumatized. A traumatized state of mind is not a sane state of mind.

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RealOpinion said on February 5, 2012 at 8:55 AM

Laws for common sense... how nice. The parents could of easily destroyed them as soon as they were done with the drugs. It also comes down to being a parent to give them continue education & communication with your child. The kid was a drug seeker, he obviously took oxy before if he was try to recreate the high. Parents need to be more aware of what kind of drugs they have at their house and what kind of access their kid has to it. I feel bad for the parents, but this is something everyone can learn from... but probably won't.

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whispah said on February 5, 2012 at 8:11 AM

sorry for your loss, but trying to pass this bill doesnt save anyone. If the teen was so hyped up on taking pills he could have bought over the counter pain killers and taken the whole bottle. Doesnt matter where they get them. If they want them they will find them. People need to hide all thier meds from everyone while figuring out where to dispose of them legally. If they were going to be incinerated anyway you could have done that yourselves in a metal barrel in the yard.

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kingster said on February 5, 2012 at 8:06 AM

It is hard, in this case, to decide if the fault is medications not disposed, or childhood thrill-seeking that bit back. The grief must be intense and I pray for these people, and for the boy who had so little sense. Modern life demands attention; we cannot be complacent. If we are, we suffer and can suffer very greatly for our inattention. I ask the Lord to give peace.

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freedomfrank said on February 5, 2012 at 6:56 AM

Nope,, the police station is just fine,,, the crack heads wont be trying to break into the police station hoping to find some old pain pills. These parents need to back off, this "new" law wont do anything for the irresponsible actions of parents leaving meds around teens. If you have kids, lock up the guns, lock up the booze, lock up the meds. Its very simple. Millions of people are doing it right now. Yes, it can happen to you, your kid can accidentally shoot themselves, or binge drink themselves to death or steal your prescription drugs. They are your kids, take some pro active actions to protect them. Stop with the laws and regulations already,,,,

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phil49 said on February 4, 2012 at 11:23 PM

Isn't there already enough problems with pharmacies taking back drugs from nursing homes and re-selling them as new? Until old drugs can be disposed of put them in a blender with a cup of bleach and blend it. Now it's useless. Store in an old soda bottle until you can take it down to a disposal site. Be sure to label the bottle and tape the top. Just my suggestion and I'm sure someone will complain. So I'll put in a disclaimer to do only at your own risk. McDonalds uses "Pink Slime", bleached beef residue to make hamburger safe to eat so it should work on the meds.. P.S. Clean the blender with new bleach, and wash afterwards..

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puyalluprox said on February 4, 2012 at 11:05 PM

Would you really want to have your prescriptions filled at a place where unused pills come back? Some cheap pharmacy may one day try and reuse these pills in YOUR prescription.

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missingmynephew said on February 4, 2012 at 11:00 PM

First off the Boys name was Tylor not Taylor. And it is a bad thing that happened. It all boils down to being responsible, If you bring something into your home you are responsible................. As far as disposal there are many many places that drugs can be taken. There are several Dr's in the area that take all medications left over that they take to 3rd world countries. I donated all the medications from the death of Tyor's grandparents and they were locked in a strong box locked in my car and were only there for 5 hours until I could get rid of them. As far as the flushing them there is no need. I talked to several police departments and several pharmacies and they could have been dropped off during business hours. 2 weeks !!!!!!!!!!!!!! is way to long to have pills laying around. Parents everyone be responsible for what you bring in to your home. You never know who is going to get into it...................Our family lost someone special Love and Miss Ya TY

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mountbakerite said on February 4, 2012 at 10:41 PM

If you have extra pills, just dissolve them in water, pour over paper towels, toss them in the trash and then your outside trash bin (this doesn't work for all types of medications obviously.) Otherwise do a search online on 'take back your meds' and it will take you a site that has listings of "temporary locations" in Washington State that accepts surplus medications for disposal.

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collegeguy said on February 4, 2012 at 10:35 PM

@cyberdurden, And how exactly would this law infringe on our freedom exactly? And you get carded for canned air? I have never seen anyone get carded for that, let alone myself. Sounds like you need to drop the crotchety old man act and enjoy life a little.

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collegeguy said on February 4, 2012 at 10:26 PM

I understand that this couple can't blame anyone but themselves for not taking action to dispose of the drugs. HOWEVER, that doesn't mean that this law should not be passed. We should be able to take these drugs to the same people who dispense them to us in the first place. And yes, it is viable. If it can be taken to the police station, it can be viable at pharmacies as well. A locking waste disposal device is relatively inexpensive in the long run and having a hazardous waste service trained in the disposal of drugs come pick them up on a on-call basis when the container gets close to being full is not really that hard to accomplish. Nice to see that exactly 1 other actually did more than berate these parents after they lost a son. Yes they made a mistake and their son died because of it but have a frilling heart you callous people.

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shoreline said on February 4, 2012 at 10:20 PM

I'm not a fan of throwing a new law out there every time someone dies, but I do have a question. If, as the story states, you can already take unused meds to the Police station or Sheriff's office and they can be "incinerated", why would it be so hard for drug stores to do the same? Just drop the pills in some "grinder" or lock-box at the pharmacy counter and send the grounds off to wherever the police have them incinerated. Don't pharmacies already take used needles (in a sharps container) from diabetics and dispose of them?

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nyb2010 said on February 4, 2012 at 10:04 PM

This isn't viable.

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Cindy_Vaugha305 said on February 4, 2012 at 9:53 PM

Don't be fooled by Ms. Runyon and Mr.Maggard's attempt to rid of these drugs. They should of never been in the house to begin with. They stated to the family they had had them for a couple weeks. I believe their were several places they could have been taken. There is more to the story then they are telling. They are just looking to be the the good guy in a bad situation. Ask me how I know, I am a grieving aunt of Mr. Tylor Vaughan. Rest in peace Tylor, your aunt loves you. Cindy L Vaughan

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cherishdesti312 said on February 4, 2012 at 9:31 PM

Let me get this straight, they stored the left over medication in an insecure LIVING ROOM cabinet, their ADULT son (at 18, he's legally an adult) was looking to get high finds the medication and in addict-like behavior plays a bit of guess work to figure out how much to take to get an Oxycontin-like high. He guesses wrong and as often happens with that sort of behavior, he OD'd. Yet all the rest of us are supposed to pay for his mistake and his parents'? I don't think so. I can understand their sadness. I can understand them feeling distraught. But nothing is going to undo what happened and even a new law isn't going to guarantee this will never occur again. You can't protect people from everything and especially not from stupid, high-risk activity like drug-seeking for the purpose of getting high without any knowledge of what the drug is or how to use it.

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amberthyst said on February 4, 2012 at 9:05 PM

The cat litter/used coffee grounds idea is best. If you flush them or put them into the garbage disposal, they will most probably end up in a creek or river or other source of drinking water somewhere.

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Blewone said on February 4, 2012 at 8:51 PM

Parents should know that any medication can be put into a ziploc type bag with used coffee grounds or cat litter and the mixture can then be trown into the garbage can. Go to FDA.gov and type in how to dispose of unused medication, it will verify this.

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ShootersNWblows said on February 4, 2012 at 8:16 PM

Wow. If you are that worried about your addict child stealing your unused meds, you should destroy them yourself.

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myopinion said on February 4, 2012 at 8:13 PM

Why not just flush unused pills, use the gabage disposal?

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chuckstr76 said on February 4, 2012 at 8:13 PM

I agree 100%, People need to be responsable for their own actions, not oncein awhile, but all the time.

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cyberdurden said on February 4, 2012 at 7:46 PM

It's sad when people loose loved ones to such tragedies, but THIS IS NO MY FAULT, and I don't need more government getting into my affairs. These parents were responsible for their child, and if anyone is to blame it is THEM! We don't need more laws. We need more education and common sense. I can't even buy canned air at Office Max without showing my I.D. card, and I'm 43 years old. I do not look like some seventeen year old trying to pull a fast one. STOP IT WITH THE FREEDOM KILLING LAWS AND TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR YOUR OWN FAMILIES.

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