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Cost of free postage for prisoners adds up

by CHRIS INGALLS / KING 5 News

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Posted on June 28, 2011 at 10:30 PM

Updated Wednesday, Jun 29 at 7:04 PM

ABERDEEN, Wash. -- Anthony Powers recalls his arrival in the prison system 18 years ago.  The prison provided him weekly with postage paid envelopes because he had no money.

“I was in that situation because I came from a poor family, when I first arrived I didn't have a job or anything," said Powers, who still has 77 years to serve on a murder conviction.

Now Powers has a prison job and can pay for his own postage.  But he defends the program that provides five stamped envelopes a week to poor inmates so they can write family and friends.

"It's a necessity,” said Powers. “One of the things you want to avoid is people getting caught up in the culture of prison and have them focus on the outside."

"They're priceless. Those stamps represent the relationship with my family," said Andrew Raymond, a fellow inmate at Stafford Creek Correctional Center.

At the prison store, the state loans money to indigent inmates for certain items like soap and over the counter drugs. The inmates are supposed to pay the money back but a few hundred thousand dollars each year remains on the books.

The KING 5 Investigators found the bulk of that comes from loans to inmates for pre-stamped envelopes.

Half of the envelopes at prison stores are sold to indigent inmates.

From last year alone, $185,000 in postage debt remains unpaid by inmates at eight Washington prisons.

Prison officials say some inmates don’t have the family or the means to pay their postage.

“If we had more jobs it would be easier to say we won't pay for anything that's up to you," said Dawn Taylor, who runs programs for Stafford Creek Correctional Center. She said, like the outside world, there aren’t enough jobs to go around.

Prison officials point out the loans are made with money inmates and their families pay for collect phone calls. Still, there are those who think it could be better spent chipping away at dire budget problems.

A bill presented to this year's legislature would have put more limits on inmate loans. It failed, but Representative Kirk Pearson (R-Monroe) said he proposed the law after hearing complaints from corrections officer about unpaid loans.

The Department of Corrections knows this is a sensitive subject and is turning to some high tech ways to keep the costs down.

The agency installed email kiosks at some institutions. Inmates pay for each email so the system is self funded.

Inmate Raymond is constantly emailing and writing letters to his family.

"It allows me to restore the relationships I damaged when I was out there living recklessly," said Raymond, who still has several years to serve on a murder conviction.

Prison officials say this kind of contact with the world outside is vital to keeping the peace among inmates on the inside. While they do try to settle the debt before the inmate is released, they don’t try to collect the money when an offender is released.

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smokinjo29atyaho said on November 24, 2011 at 8:33 AM

KING 5 you really need to look at the real thing going on in the prisons. If prisons were not a money making thing they would not hold up and be closed. That measly amount you posted about postage costs is nothing compared to what each prison makes from phone calls, food sales, and taxing all gift moneys from friends and family. If a call costs $10 the prison gets $7.20 or 72% of the call in which the public pays for. Then the 2010 Bill passed in the 90s so the prison taxes inmates gratuity money from a start of 35% to 95%. Again, the public pays for that. If you want to talk about how much the prison spends, how about you even out the complaint and talk about the millions the prison makes each quarter. That is why private prisons are being opened. Oh, I almost forgot. The prisons receive Federal Grants each year to cover each person. That grant provides for food, medical, clothing, power, water, postage, and other. Same as DSHS pays for the people out on the streets.

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takncarabizniz said on July 9, 2011 at 9:56 AM

This is bullony... I hate to say it, but I had a brother-in-law in prison for a long time, and we were the ones who paid for his postage, the pads of paper, the envelopes, everything...these were items the prisoners had to purchase through the ward sundry store and we sent the money for him to buy them with. One Christmas, we purchased the goods ourselves and had to get the prison Chaplain to get them approved for him as a gift, because of the possibility of contraband drugs on the stamps and such. This state doesn't "punish" prisoners, it houses them, gives them medical care, 3 squares, TV, computers, education, and plenty of time and equipment to work out and get bigger and badder for their next stint in society. We should be utilizing prison labor for farms, for road repairs, park maintenance, state laundry, there are a miriad of jobs they can keep busy at and repay society! Letters may be a lifeline to these people, but they should have to earn every single stamp !!!

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bstillpsw said on July 7, 2011 at 8:40 PM

If every prisoner or inmate was actually guilty of committing the crime they are in for, I would still say that inmates/prisoner who don't have the money to pay for postage should get free postage.... But the truth is a large amount of men and women are in jail for something they didn't do (I am not saying a large percentage, I have to believe that it is at least 80% right on accusations and even convictions), but I know for a fact that there are people in jail and prison for something they DID NOT DO! and if there is one there is more than one, and so therefor, why should we decide who gets to communicate with their families or not.... And not all families can afford to keep money on their loved ones books and also pay for phone calls or even do one of those things let alone one or the other.......

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annettefossett said on June 30, 2011 at 5:21 PM

My son is in stafford creek now so he understands what they go through.He is not indegent now but he has been so I but I listen to what he has to say. Those that do get free postage only get so much and that is the only free thing they get. If those inmates get free postage, it is required that if they get money on their books it is taken to pay back the jail system for those stamps. In many cases it is the contact with the family that helps to rehabilitate those inmates. There have been many programs to rehabilitate inmates have been cut. Many commit crimes again because there are no employers that will give these guys a job so that there is less of a chance of re-offending and staying out of jail. Recidivism is at an all time high becuase there are no jobs for excons out there.

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CrichSeattle said on June 30, 2011 at 2:11 PM

I don't believe in loaning prisoners money for candy and cigarettes but mail is essential. It's easy to villify this group of our population because they have been caught committing crimes, but there are more people out committing crimes every day that haven't been caught, welfare fraud, for instance. I have heard it said that Medicaid fraud and Welfare fraud are too expensive to pursue. Excuse me? Billions down the tube in welfare fraud, and it's too expensive to stop? How about welfare debit cards being cashed out in casinos? You all are getting fired up about stamps by inmates but it seems all right to you that people are gambling away welfare money, and the children this money is meant for are only receiving meals at school? Now there was a news segment about children going hungry. With the school district feeeding them two meals a day, cannot welfar and food stamps feed them at least one meal a day? They should be investigating that and not the stamps that inmates use.

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CrichSeattle said on June 30, 2011 at 2:01 PM

I disagree with the majority on this issue. With the state throwing money away everywhere you look, is the cost a five stamps a week so much that we can't allow prisoners to write home to their families and children? What is wrong with you people? These families have to have communication with their incarcerated family members; otherwise when they are released they will have no home to return to. Also, I believe will will ease violence in the overcrowded prisons. Shame on the politicians for trying to save $2.20 a week when the alternative is adding more guards at $40 an hour to control the violence and more reintegration counselors at a cost of millions to taxpayers. If you want to save money, go after welfare fraud where we lose billions every year.

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rob9805683794874 said on June 30, 2011 at 2:53 AM

What else do inmates get for free, on our dime? (I probably DON'T want to know, I'll be even more disgusted than I am now.)

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bobo275078015763 said on June 29, 2011 at 3:15 PM

Unbelievable - commit a crime and treated better than many tax payers. This country is such a mess...

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firesoul said on June 29, 2011 at 1:07 PM

@lsmith5870400119: I like how you think. You have some valid suggestions that I hope catch on. There is litter almost everywhere I look. Endless job opportunities right there.

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charleylechein said on June 29, 2011 at 11:19 AM

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Im sorry, men and women serving in the military do not have free postage! I think that anyone serving time needs to buy their own freaking stamps. If somone owes, get a freaking job. What, nobody will hire you? Youre in prison, make license plates, create a business and earn money, as if they dont own a business by selling cigs and dont klnow that barter is alive n prison. If they own money, put them in solitary and bread and water for 30 days, if they cant pay when asked, give them another 60 days. Money saved by not feeding them can be used as barter, they arnt costing anything in food.... Enlist them in the WA natinal guard, as IED remote detector... they walk in front of the vehicles, if an IED goes off they get a trip home.

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southside253 said on June 29, 2011 at 10:46 AM

Give em only bread and water, and watch the reoffending rate drop like a rock. When they are treated like a high security Hilton, most have a healthier jail life than when they are free.

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libradad said on June 29, 2011 at 10:30 AM

And one other point. Every state in the union and the federal prisons cover some postage for the prisoners in some fashion.

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libradad said on June 29, 2011 at 10:29 AM

Non DOC institutions such as Western State allow only 3 stamped envelopes per week, except during the holidays when it rises to 5. If that is good enough for state hospitals, it should be good enough for DOC

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spacedover said on June 29, 2011 at 8:53 AM

Come to the generous liberal state of Washington, we have the best of everything to give to Prisoners and to Dead bBeats. The states population is growing because this is truly the land of milk and honey for the tax payer to support.

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1beachperson said on June 29, 2011 at 8:14 AM

I say give the indigent 1 month in prison to be placed in a job, and while they're waiting, give them ONE envelope a week. After that, you want soap, toothpaste, socks, underwear, envelopes, pay for it out of your prison job income! If you don't get a job, you don't get any of these "extras". Maybe if more of them were working they'd have less time to get into their gang fights, etc.

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lsmith5870400119 said on June 29, 2011 at 7:57 AM

While I am on my soapbox, I might add that most all people that get welfare or public assistance should be doing these jobs also.

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lsmith5870400119 said on June 29, 2011 at 7:55 AM

There are plenty of jobs for inmates to do. The streets of Seattle and other cities are filthy, and no money to clean them. Inmate power! The state lands have almost a unlimited supply of scrap wood that can be cut into fire wood for poorer people. Inmate power! Has anyone seen all of the scotch broom that is growing on right of ways, and state land. Inmate power. There are untold jobs to keep inmates busy on jobs that would never get done otherwise. These are jobs that would not be taken away from the private sector. The state would have to pay more for guards and transportation, but would make it up on health issues. A person who works has more self esteem and better mental, and physical health than one who does not work. Bye the way, this would not be volunteer, but would be required for all but the disabled or very hard-core dangerous criminal.

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serve said on June 29, 2011 at 7:31 AM

Most of the inmates buddies are in jail with them playing cards, the topic of conversation is what jail/prison has the most benefits for them - just like we talk about motels or restaurants. Most grew up using and abusing the system and so they are with their peers. The easy targets are those who's sympathy they can count on. When home most party night & day & bring up kids who they teach to do the same.

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serve said on June 29, 2011 at 7:20 AM

If people are shocked by this, investigate the cost of medical care we pay for inmates.

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tootoo said on June 29, 2011 at 7:19 AM

I agree with the commenters. Let's give up on prisoners, so that when they are ultimately released, they have no outside friends/family and no jobs skills, so that they quickly return to a life of crime. Even better idea, let's release them into the previous three commenter's neighborhoods so that they have some easy targets!

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lovemondays said on June 29, 2011 at 6:39 AM

can all of us tax payers have 5 stamped envelopes per week, toilet paper, 3 meals a day, a roof over our head with no payments, and on and on and on. just another ridiculous waste of taxpayers money. can you feed the kid down on the corner, standing in the rain with her mother that has a cardboard sign. they got in there all by themselves. where is our rewards for not?

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pete275144728656 said on June 29, 2011 at 6:12 AM

No Way......They are in jail after all......tired of flipping the bill for the ones that can't be a productive part of the community.

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serve said on June 29, 2011 at 6:06 AM

Wouldn't matter if there were more jobs for inmates to do, most would chose to do nothing.

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