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Auburn Christian school teacher charged with rape

by TONYA MOSLEY / KING 5 News

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Posted on February 20, 2010 at 4:35 PM

Updated Thursday, Feb 25 at 11:53 AM

AUBURN, Wash. – Principal Marvin Mitchell is launching an investigation after learning that former Bible teacher Scott Spies and a 15-year-old student left campus and had sex in his apartment at least 15 times.

The Bible teacher at an Auburn school has now been charged with having sex with the 15-year-old student.

Police say Scott Spies, 49, confessed to having sex with a girl from Auburn Adventist Academy more than 15 times over the course of the school year. He is charged with third-degree rape and sexual misconduct. He was arrested last week and released from jail on Saturday after posting bail.

Auburn Adventist Academy Principal Marvin Mitchell calls it a tragedy.

"We do not want male teachers taking female students off campus, we try to be very careful about that," said Mitchell. "The situation escalated into something that was unacceptable."

Mitchell said the now 16-year-old student, who is part of the boarding program at the private Christian academy, looked to Spies as a mentor.

"She found a person who she felt like she could share with and that was the beginning of it," he said.

Detectives call what happened rape.

"The student described them as starting to get close in about February of 09," says Sgt. Dave Colglazier with the Auburn Police Department.

On Tuesday, the student told police that she and Spies began having sex at the beginning of the school year at his apartment just a few miles away from the school. Apparently, Spies and the student slipped past three people in charge of watching over the boarding students.

The school first starting hearing rumors about the relationship late last week and brought both the student and Spies in the office for questioning. They both denied it until Monday. The school immediately notified police and fired Spies.

"Because of this we are re-examining all of our policies and teacher student relationships, we are dedicated to the safety of our students," said Mitchell.

Mitchell said the main focus now for the 300-plus student body is moving on and helping the victim.

The school says it's now reviewing its policies, but administrators believe this is an isolated incident.

"I've seen this happen very rarely in my years of working with the church," says Doug Bing, Vice President of the Washington Conference of Seventh Day Adventist Schools.

Because it is a private school, the Academy is not subject to state supervision of the boarding program. The school is solely responsible for the welfare of its students.

"The girls are well taken care of," said Mitchell. "But of course even the best policies need to be reexamined."

Spies is charged with 3rd degree Child Rape and Sexual Misconduct. He is scheduled to arraigned on March 3.

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juliehendricks said on February 25, 2010 at 7:41 PM

In response to someone's suggestion that Mr. Spies had limited sexual expeirence -at a "bible teacher" please, that is not the case here at all -

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juliehendricks said on February 24, 2010 at 11:10 PM

to juliet420: thank you for your comment - just to reiterate your great comments: This is not time to bash Adentists. There can be sour apples in any bunch, and if you live long enough, you will see there certainly are. Sexual violence is not unique to a certain group. No one familar with Scott should give him an inch of less responsibility for this and nor should the girl should shoulder the blame. We also can't pretend that this girl is necessarily the only one this has happened to, no matter how much that damages our image of him. Reality tells us that predators become more aggressive over time, and that is what he is. If there are other victims, I pray they have the courage to come forward as they are not to blame.

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juliehendricks said on February 24, 2010 at 11:02 PM

Just to clarify each chage is a Class C felony. There are specific laws regarding professionals who educate minors. They exist to protect minors as they are NOT legally defned as being mature enough to made decisions about sexual conduct. this is a very serious matter. One could argue there is a grey area when looking at the law on this issue in terms of an 18 year old having intercourse with a 17 year old, but this far from wha the case at hand appears to be.

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juliehendricks said on February 24, 2010 at 10:50 PM

to fall2009seattle: I dated Scott 1996-1997. A recent article about the current 3dr degree rape and 1st degree sexual misconduct charges against Scott, it stated he was terminated or put on leave as the Student Dean at the Auburn Accademy in 1994 - for improper contact with a student. 1994 is not a typo. The Scott I met back then kind and gentle. However, my younger borther 12 years my junior (former student of Scott's @ Kirkland Adventist Accademy in the late 80's to early 90's) tried to warn me that Scott was overtly affectionate to his female students- i.e. he them skiing, clearly favored girls in his PE classes, and did many off outside school activites with his female students but not his male students. I adored Scott at the time and knew teaching and God were his life. Anything else, did not make sense. Nor does it now. I am so very sorry for the student and her family. And, for the choices Scott made. This is not about the Church but about a man's mistakes.

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fall2009seattle said on February 23, 2010 at 1:41 PM

I apologize Julie, I notice you state when you dated 2006-2007. So what is the 1994 about? Is that a typo, or when she was born, (which I do not understand the way it is worded), thank you for writing. Was he married before. Does he have children? It makes it all that more tragic if children are involved.

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fall2009seattle said on February 23, 2010 at 1:37 PM

To Julie Former Fiance: I am confused. You state:He had left Auburn Accademy before we met (before his 1994 student incident). Former fiancee. 1994 is 15 years ago. Are you stating he had an incident in 1994. I don't think you are, because 1994 is when this woman was born. Could you clarify when you were his fiance. Is this the first time he has been in trouble. Just asking to clarify in my mind. Thank you.

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juliehendricks said on February 23, 2010 at 3:02 AM

I'm saddened about this teacher and his 15 year old student. We dated 2006-2007 and were once engaged. I remember him as extremely pious towards others in his religious beliefs. Spies told me he let his students call on him at all hours and had pizza parties at his apartment for them. The behavior his discussed with me was concerning, but I never saw him with his students. At the time, it was merely a fleeting as I was also young (but not a teen). As an experienced teacher, Spies was in a position of power and influence over his young students. Teens are easily infatuated by older people and possess a multitude of conflicting emotions as they journey into adulthood. I am saddened Spies took advantage of his position within the Church and within his profession. This is not acceptable for our children. He had left Auburn Accademy before we met (before his 1994 student incident). Former fiancee.

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fall2009seattle said on February 23, 2010 at 1:25 AM

I want to take this time to thank again all of the loving teachers, the thousands of them that love and cherish our children and young adults, and follow the laws and make a difference to a child or many children. You are much praised by me, and I fortunately put two sons through the school system without incident. Remember, your work is very very hard, and not a day goes by that I do not thank you for all of the money you take out of your personal accounts to pay for supplies that the schools will not have funds for. TO THOSE THAT LOVE THE CHILDREN AND ARE DOING THEIR BEST THANK YOU!

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fall2009seattle said on February 23, 2010 at 1:22 AM

clear2copy: Let us not confuse this issue. God - is not part of this human issue. Some may think so, so don't email me complaing please. Two humans of which one knew better are the issue. He is paying for his crime (felony) and will for the rest of his life tragic that he was a teacher. To all people that work with people that have this problem. If you think you are an offender or are going to reoffend. Stay Away from anyone that will get you in trouble. Go get counselling immediately. I know that sounds unreasonable. But when Alcoholics feel the urge, they go to an AA meeting, however I believe truly that sexual issues in cases just cannot be cured. I am just another person, not a professional, so that is my opinion, and I don't need a lecture on whether I am right or wrong, HE was wrong, and is a criminal and I do feel sorry for him because obviously he was in a great deal of pain to not understand right from wrong and if he did, he did a lousy job of saying NO. Jail!

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clear2copy said on February 22, 2010 at 11:30 PM

Maybe it would have been better had god blessed the victim BEFORE this all went down..and it wouldn't have happened.

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juliet420 said on February 22, 2010 at 10:46 PM

I, too, am a graduate from Auburn - five year renunion this spring. Spies was my 8th grade teacher. Like the students who have already written, he was nearly universally loved. As I remember him, he was not self-righteous like too many faculty can be, and that earned him respect from kids trying to find their own place in the world. It saddens me to see the Adventist religion and Christianity in general being bashed. Sexual violence is not unique to a certain group. Though I too have been dissolutioned by many members, this incident shouldn't be the sole reason Adventists are critiqued. On the other hand, those who knew him should not give him an inch of less responsibility for this and the girl should not shoulder blame. We also can't pretend that this girl is necessarily the only one this has happened to, no matter how much that damages our image of him. Reality tells us that predators become more aggressive over time, and that is what he is: a predator.

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jamallw said on February 22, 2010 at 8:56 PM

I pray for the little girl and I pray that justice is served on this man who did a crazy, unexplainble, disgraceful act. May God bless all involved including this man because he is going to need it.

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fall2009seattle said on February 22, 2010 at 5:31 PM

To the youth that have shared, thank you for your stories. Whatever each and every one of us wants to call it, it is sad, he broke the law, he is facing severe consequences that will affect him for the rest of his life. She will have had this situation that happened (agreeing to it or not), and it will affect her for a long long time, if not the rest of her life. Religous or not the entire thing is, Teachers, most of you are fabulous and you know who you are so thank you. But to the other whatever percent that are thinking of crossing the boundaries. JUST do not do it. Quit your job, whatever. It is illegal and wrong! Look at the turmoil it causes, and regardless, you will be in jail, pay a hefty fine, have your picture in the sex offender registry, all because a student regardless of her actions was violated. I am sorry he was so messed up and did this illegal act to cause a student to be violated, but he has 3 decades of years of experience on her in life.

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gemih said on February 22, 2010 at 5:12 PM

Yes, this man is much older and experienced. Yes, he did a wrong thing having sex with a 15 year old girl. But I cannot agree he is a rapist. Evidently the sex was consensual. What if she had sex with one of her classmates? This would be less wrong, right? Well, some boys at 16 have more sexual experience than this 49 years old bible teacher might have. I was a member of an evangelical church and I was 29 and still virgin waiting to get married before having sex. How much experience did I have in this particular area? Zero! I was a teacher back then and some of my older students, boys and girls, were certainly more sexually experienced than me. So stop jugging the man. These things happen. In my opinion the scandal is going to be much more harmful for this girl than having sex with an older man.

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dede1978 said on February 22, 2010 at 4:10 PM

It's good to see some people recognize that she had a hand in this too considering the number of times it happened. I'm not ready to call it rape either, this sounds like a mutual agreement. But, yes he should be prosecuted as the adult in this considering his position of trust. But I can't honestly call it rape, it doesn't sound like she was forced.

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the_commando said on February 22, 2010 at 2:18 PM

If your thing causes you to sin, then CHOP IT OFF!

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theresponder_91 said on February 22, 2010 at 1:37 PM

I am a four year senior from AAA, I just graduated this last spring, seeing the name of my school, a place i love and have great memories of, associated with this story is very gut wrenching. It is sad too see so many people make rash comments without even personally knowing what Auburn Adventist Academy stands for. I am glad to read temporaryhomes comment, thank you for taking the time to inform us a little more, i am very sad this had to happen your junior year. I personally know Mr. Spies, from taking his bible class this last year, (which was actually his first year working at Auburn), he is a good man who has made a terrible mistake. He has broken the trust that hundreds of students and faculty had placed in him, and also completely misrepresented everything that this great school stands for. But i have faith in the system of justice, both God's and mans. So to temporaryhome, and all my friends at Auburn, keep flying strong, attacks will come, but we are Falcons!

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firefoxtwo said on February 22, 2010 at 1:31 PM

Good Grief..... They fell in love. Why is that so hard to realize. It's just like Mary K. Government is too involved in people's personal lives.

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temporaryhome said on February 22, 2010 at 11:49 AM

page2 (sorry it got lost.) what your talking about. The girl is not the spawn of the devil! alottoanswerfor AAA needs to do some real soul-searching as to what is going on at that place. This is just another in a string of problems out there. (if you don't know what your talking about then don't say anything) They recently had a parent who's been coddled and courted because his kids play basketball pull a knife on a security guard. Then a kid who was kicked out of school for drugs was allowed to walk at graduation last spring. (if you didn't hear it from the horses mouth then don't talk about it because you don't know the whole story) Now that Keith is gone maybe they will get an administration in there that's got the balls to clean house and set some standards. (We have standards. Please don't talk about us like you know us unless you actually do. Don't talk about a topic you know nothing...

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grownupnow said on February 22, 2010 at 11:47 AM

I too am a former AAA student., former adventist. I am a survior of being a (barely) 17 year old who got pregnant by a 24 year old man. My parents didn't press charges. I thought at that age I knew what I wanted for my life. Now that I'm older I realize I had no clue. I love my child (from that experience) and wouldn't change their exsistence for anything. Looking back now from an adult view point I realize my parents should have pressed charges and thrown him in jail. But instead we got married and he beat me and continued to rape me for years. I finally got out of the "marriage". I have since found a wonderful husband and best friend. My point is healing can come for the girl. It will take time. She needs to realize she's a victim! I have know Scott for many years and I was surprised by this. If all of this is true he is sick and he needs help, prayers and friends that will stand by him. He must also pay for his actions. Really pay not just a slap on the wrist.

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temporaryhome said on February 22, 2010 at 11:40 AM

on what so ever) I came on to see what the news was saying about my school, my friend, and my teacher, but what I found was so much worse. I found adults gossiping like highschool girls and talking about something they have no idea about. All you guys really know are the few things the news channels have revealed to you. So don't speculate and don't spread rumors or thing we are ALL hypocrites and self-righteous. Mr. Spies if you read this please know you have hurt us all deeply and really messed our year up. I know you messed up and I forgive you. i hope you realize that we do care about you and i'm just sorry this actually happened. you betrayed us in all actuality. you should have know better. i'll be praying for you. it's crazy that this tragic situation had to happen but believe it or not it brought me closer to God. Thank you for that. B.P.

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temporaryhome said on February 22, 2010 at 11:29 AM

Hello. I am a Junior currently attending AAA who took Mr. Spies bible 11 class and we aren't as bad as you all would like to think. We all feel betrayed and lost and confused as to how anything like this could actually take place. God is not to blame, our Religion is not to blame, our Administration is not to blame. The student and Teacher both of whom i know personally made a terrible mistake but that doesn't mean that you have to bash on them. God only gives us things we can handle, He never gives us more than that. As a student, I don't think it is fair of you all ganging up on us and our religion, we are just trying to make it one day at a time. While i feel totally betrayed by Mr. Spies i did learn one thing from him this year. NO ONE PERSON IS RIGHTEOUS IN GODS EYES. We are all sinners and we have no right to judge others. We are not all perfect, but we try to do the right thing, but you all have messed up in your life and so did he. so lay off. Rambo_firstblood you don't know

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auburngirl said on February 22, 2010 at 11:13 AM

I am really disturbed by the comments that the 15 year old child in this case should hold some responsibility for having sex with this 49 year old. Thirty Four years separates their lifes expierences . 34 !!! years people THINK ABOUT THAT ! This man had twice her age of expierence to learn about life and the value of human relationships. He chose to take her innocence and rob her of her right to learn about friendship, love, and commitment, in the right order, with someone she could actually have that with ! Just because you think you know about sex when you are a young adult does not mean you understand about the consequences and responibilties of being in sexual relationships. Please think about that ! We have supposidly evolved into a humane race that understands its own development and tries to improve the way it raises its young.

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nen78059 said on February 22, 2010 at 9:25 AM

When I was 15 I knew the difference between right and wrong. I also knew what sex was. This girl unless forced needs to take some of the responsibility. Sure it was wrong for this 49 year old man to sleep with a 15 year old. But this girl could have said no the first time. Come on they had sex 15 times. As a parent I am upset at this older man for sure but I would also hold my child accountable for her actions.

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skippypotpiebaby said on February 22, 2010 at 7:35 AM

Teacher at 49 years old gets life in jail. News at 11 pm.

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fall2009seattle said on February 22, 2010 at 5:29 AM

billboho: Perhaps those of you who choose to sling hateful and disrespectful comments at Christians or the Church should perhaps read the comment that is next to the "submit" button. I AGREE WITH THIS.... SOMETIMES, I FEEL THESE BOARDS TEND TO GET WAY OFF OF THE ORIGINAL TRACK. People whom "sling hateful anything" have issues of their own, and it has nothing to do with Christians ANY CHURCH. I believe there was a lot said on this post that indicates more things have been going on at this school and another one, but I am not involved in the schools there, I am just a person that made very respectful comments and gave my opinions. The entire thing is sad, but still, inappropriate for any teacher. That is not a judgment. That is the law. But thank you for your comments.

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bilbohow said on February 22, 2010 at 1:40 AM

The thing that most irritating thing about this situation is the reactions and reponses from "non believers" or other haters of Christianity. Spies was wrong, Christian or not, and he will and already is facing the consequences. The teenage girl will also likely have some long term consequences. God gives us all the ability to make our own choices. God did not make Spies' choice. Jesus did not make Spies' choice. Christianity did not make Spies' choice. Spies himself chose to commit this crime, knowing full well that he was wrong. Spies has NO ONE to blame but himself. Christianity is not responsible nor are the officials and co-workers at the school. Perhaps those of you who choose to sling hateful and disrespectful comments at Christians or the Church should perhaps read the comment that is next to the "submit" button. (Remember: Please be respectful of other when posting comments. Play nice.)

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reader54 said on February 22, 2010 at 12:38 AM

So, Mr. Scott Spies made a mistake? Only one or 15? Try many many of these types of incidents over a period of 20 years perhaps. This was not the first little girl he molested. He is a sick son of a gun. Hey, Spies, you disgust me.

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vandamme said on February 22, 2010 at 12:15 AM

Rambo, I think you're possessed! Somebody call an exorcist!!

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rambo_firstblood said on February 22, 2010 at 12:09 AM

But I can be pretty mean too! Check out my comments in wrong way driver who got killed recently. Wuhahahahahaahhahaahahaahahaha! I didn't say I was a perfect Christian. I'm honest! I'm not fake! I'm honest A- hole!

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rambo_firstblood said on February 22, 2010 at 12:07 AM

Anyway, have you guys seen The Devil's Advocate? I think what Al Pacino says in the movie is brilliant. But, although I can't prove it, there is God. Although I'm somewhat aggressive, lean, mean tough guy, I try to go to heaven when I die by following Jesus teaching to the best I can.

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clear2copy said on February 21, 2010 at 11:47 PM

god approves of this incident...or it wouldn't have happened. I'm told that god is all powerful and all seeing..so either god didn't prevent it or couldn't.. either way, it doesn't seem like such a wonderful entity to worship. Way to go , god..another one gets raped in your name. Can I have an AMEN?

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rambo_firstblood said on February 21, 2010 at 11:42 PM

Besides, if you truly want to be Jesus' student, what do you do? I mean when something is causing you to sin? Pluck it out! Or chop it off! If you do that, then, you'll be rewarded in the kingdom of God or heaven.

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rambo_firstblood said on February 21, 2010 at 11:38 PM

hey, fall2009, do you respect rapists? think before you speak. although love and respect is very important in christianity, this POS must be stoned to death!

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rambo_firstblood said on February 21, 2010 at 11:34 PM

@fall2009: GO AWAY, SATAN! JESUS SAID!!

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stand4christ said on February 21, 2010 at 11:23 PM

In defense of Christianity this behavior is not taught or promoted by Christians. Christ is appauled at the way each of us treats each other, I'm sure. He lived on this earth as a perfect example for each of us and taught us how to love each other. Lets not judge Christian education by our sinful standards or ourselves in general we have all fallen short of God's standard.

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fall2009seattle said on February 21, 2010 at 10:22 PM

rambo: That really wasn't a very "respectful" comment. Regardless of what article you are commenting on, that does not do anyone any good.

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rambo_firstblood said on February 21, 2010 at 10:07 PM

If your eye causes you to stumble, pluck it out and throw it from you. If your c0ck causes you to sin, chop if off and throw it to a dog.

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fall2009seattle said on February 21, 2010 at 9:55 PM

Because I do not personally know the gentlemen and it seems that some of you towards the end of you do, and you speak of other's turning a blind eye that work at the school, then what about confronting the people, person's in charge of the school above the principal? It seems and any adult, is aware that there are always two, three or four sides to a story, and yes what he did was inappropriate, but possibly this is the time that he needs people that know of him in this school environment to come forward if other's are guilty of things. I am not there, just a concerned person that cares about life and people.

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sellah10000 said on February 21, 2010 at 9:37 PM

I can't believe there are idiots out there who think that a teacher at age 49 should be excused, (no matter how beloved), and that a child of 15 years should be held accountable? What if he had sex with a boy? Would you feel differently? That would make him something else...right? The Adventist Academy and its people are for the most part good people, but those good people turned a blind eye. Those good people did what they've always done...they let themselves look good; even when they weren't good. I know Scott, and knew there was more to his story than he was letting on. Too bad the upstanding members of the AAA didn't get him the help he needed. There is more to this story. I hope the Conference weeds out the leadership at this school who've allowed a lot of inappropriate things go hush, hush. Scott was a product of pain and suffering, which doesn't go away. It waits...

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rambo_firstblood said on February 21, 2010 at 8:58 PM

Chop it off!!!!!

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island10 said on February 21, 2010 at 8:38 PM

I attended Auburn Adventist Academy and found the teachers to be professional, kind, and caring. They showed a true interest in each student and gave many young people the foundation they needed for a rewarding and successful life. Mr. Spies gave into his passion ruining his life and career and that of a young girl. I still believe in this school and will send my daughter there as I have trust in the many dedicated teachers remaining.

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informu said on February 21, 2010 at 8:32 PM

Scott Spies was my daughters teacher a couple of years ago when he taught at Buena Vista. He was her most favored teacher of all, in her years of education at any school. Scott is a nice guy who made a huge mistake. He can't be any worse than any of those other phoney Seventh Day Adventists. They think they are sooo sin free but behind closed doors, they aren't any better than anyone else. You know who you are. Those two schools on the hill donot know how to treat their students whose parents are spending money to educate them. I am so glad that the principal of B.V. is not my father. I would hate him! When Scott worked there, it was a good school. Why is it that the girl who consented was not suspended? In the past, other students were caught in the consentual act and they were both told to leave?

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fall2009seattle said on February 21, 2010 at 7:55 PM

friend2 said on February 21, 2010 at 2:48 PMI have known Mr Spies for over 30 years and known him to be an honorable man. He has made a bad choice and will receive the consequences of his choices. He is not a bad person. Every one of us are faced with situations that we must choose to follow the right path. Most of the time, we choose well. Sometimes, we don't think it through clearly and choose a path that can lead to a lot of hurt, privately and or publically. May all involved find healing. Very good comment and well stated!!!

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fall2009seattle said on February 21, 2010 at 7:44 PM

43212010 -- Please be careful with that statement, many of us here are just very concerned people, "don't judge people's mistakes when you are doing the same thing...." For me, I do not judge anyone, and I am a happily married woman. I just happen to log in and I have a tremendous amount of concern and compassion for our world, this is a place where anyone can post comments, I thought. It is just a sad situation, very sad for both.

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43212010 said on February 21, 2010 at 7:35 PM

Please don't make any conclusions when you are not involve, and don't judge people's mistakes when you are doing the same thing....

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fall2009seattle said on February 21, 2010 at 7:34 PM

good point aziza!!!!

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fall2009seattle said on February 21, 2010 at 7:32 PM

I need to ad that absolutely he should be fired, and did not hold appropriate conduct for his position. I want to point that out. There is no room for this kind of behavior EVER in a school, or in an environment where you are the adult, and the child or student is looking to you to teach them about "religion" or any other topic. Let me be very firm on that. I think what this man did was totally inappropriate. Thank you.

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fall2009seattle said on February 21, 2010 at 7:29 PM

contraryjim: I just have a ?, in your opinion, is having sex 15 times consensual? Also, did he drag her to his apartment. It becomes as you said muddy.

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technoviking said on February 21, 2010 at 6:51 PM

This has nothing to do with "literal mythology" and everything to do with a species of animal on this planet called - human.

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auburngirl said on February 21, 2010 at 6:29 PM

This man raped a child period.......... I do not care he if claims it was just a bad decission or a fall in to sin. He Raped a Child. No Adult should lure any one under 18 years of age into having sex with them DAM IT We have to have some standard as a sociaty to protect those that can really be harmed and taken advantage of by others. I really cann't stand the men who think it isn't rape if she consented. Like someone said you dumb@#$ you would be thinking again if it was your child or someone you really cared about. I am not about to get into a moral or religous debate with anyone here. I do not believe in shoving ones beliefs down someone elses throat. I do believe we should have just a few decent standards that everyone can live. Leave young girls and boys to grow up with out being molested should be one of them.

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aziza said on February 21, 2010 at 6:26 PM

Friend2? People said the same thing about Ted Bundy, The Hillside Strangler, Gary Ridgeway, and Jeffery Dahmer not to mention ALL those Catholic Priests.

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friend2 said on February 21, 2010 at 3:48 PM

I have known Mr Spies for over 30 years and known him to be an honorable man. He has made a bad choice and will receive the consequences of his choices. He is not a bad person. Every one of us are faced with situations that we must choose to follow the right path. Most of the time, we choose well. Sometimes, we don't think it through clearly and choose a path that can lead to a lot of hurt, privately and or publically. May all involved find healing.

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the_commando said on February 21, 2010 at 2:19 PM

@tomahawk: Probably the book of mormon

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tomahawk said on February 21, 2010 at 2:01 PM

hey mr spies? what kind of biblle do you read?

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blankingout said on February 21, 2010 at 1:53 PM

Aziza, Being charged with sexual misconduct with a minor, I think that's plenty. A 9 year-old is a child, so I would definitely charge someone who did that with child in your example with child rape too.

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mrmagoo said on February 21, 2010 at 1:18 PM

takes 2 to tango!! the girl is just as much at fault! she wanted it as much as he did except he should have known better as she is a young girl!

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detour said on February 21, 2010 at 1:16 PM

Lets see if he gets slapped on the wrist like women teachers get.

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aziza said on February 21, 2010 at 12:48 PM

Blankingout? I know a nine year old who is ovulating. So should a 49 year old man be sleeping with her? With your reasoning, sleeping with children is okay. Contend? God does not condone rape, may Spies become more spiritual in jail before the other prisoners get to him. They loathe rapists.

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alottoanswerforr said on February 21, 2010 at 12:45 PM

AAA needs to do some real soul-searching as to what is going on at that place. This is just another in a string of problems out there.They recently had a parent who's been coddled and courted because his kids play basketball pull a knife on a security guard. Then a kid who was kicked out of school for drugs was allowed to walk at graduation last spring. Now that Keith is gone maybe they will get an administration in there that's got the balls to clean house and set some standards.

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blankingout said on February 21, 2010 at 11:53 AM

The girl was innocent, I am sorry but when a female starts ovulating they know what they are doing. BS!

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contend17 said on February 21, 2010 at 11:34 AM

God demonstrates His own love towards us, in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us. For we ourselves were also once foolish, disobedient, deceived, serving various lusts and pleasures, living in malice and envy, hateful and hating once another. But when the kindness and the love of God our Savior toward man appeared, not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to His mercy He saved us. Whoever hates his brother is a murderer; whoever sees his brother in need and shuts up his heart from him, how does the love of God abide in him? Let us love one another. This is love, not that we loved God, but that He loved us.

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daverino said on February 21, 2010 at 11:29 AM

Wow, That's a whole lotta trouble. Maybe she will wait for him to get out of prison like Billy fulough did for Mary kay.

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aziza said on February 21, 2010 at 9:39 AM

He was the adult in a position of authority. He abused his power. She is innocent in this because she is a minor. He knew better. Even if she initiated it with a school girl crush, he could have said "No". He's 49 for crying out loud! There are plenty of adult women to choose from, yet he chose a young 15 year old girl? What could they possibly have in common? He groomed her, that is why it happened 15 times. That makes him a predator and a rapist. So family_man? I have to respectfully disagree. She has no responsibility here and you have to ask yourself, what if this was your daughter? That is why it is called first degree sexual misconduct with a minor AND child rape.

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blankingout said on February 21, 2010 at 2:44 AM

Child rape, they really need to re-evaluate the definition of rape when this happened 15 times... However the other charge of sexual misconduct covers it. But hey, officers of god need love too...

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rambo_firstblood said on February 21, 2010 at 1:24 AM

Maybe, he was a good Christian, but this girl was a daughter of Satan.

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toolkitty said on February 21, 2010 at 1:07 AM

observor2 said on February 20, 2010 at 8:02 PM 1 am, too, a four-year AAA grad. dorm. well-stated.

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the_commando said on February 21, 2010 at 12:57 AM

*your*

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the_commando said on February 21, 2010 at 12:50 AM

Jesus said, "If you PENlS is making you sin, CHOP IT OFF!"

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guest204 said on February 21, 2010 at 12:40 AM

I absolutely agree with observor2. I also know Mr.Spies and believe that he is a devoted Christian, not a maniac. Many AAA students are shocked and sad to tears to hear about Mr.Spies. What a tragedy.

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phaedrus said on February 21, 2010 at 12:01 AM

This has a whole lot more to do with hormones and some emotional need than god or the devil. The former exist, the latter don't.

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contend17 said on February 20, 2010 at 11:32 PM

We most certainly live in a world where evil abounds. No one is at all immune to sin and hurt. While we all can look on and say it was a terrible act, and it truly was, we cannot condemn or believe that we're at all better. Like Jesus said, "He who is without sin, let him throw the first stone." All of us are indeed wicked, wretched sinners; and although we can expect Christians to be good people, they aren't always. They're just like you and me. Regular, normal sinners who are thankful that God has saved us and forgiven us, not because of anything we've done, but because He loves us. And God most certainly still loves Scott. While Christians aren't perfect, God is perfect and He loves everyone with an everlasting love that transcends all evils and sins.

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scorpio67 said on February 20, 2010 at 11:06 PM

Just because you are a Bible Teacher doesn't mean you a perfect. Yes, you should set a good example, but like the Bible says, he who is without sin let him cast the first stone. Here's to all of the people you are feeding on the negative. BOO You. If any of us are perfect then why aren't you in heaven with God.

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observor2 said on February 20, 2010 at 9:02 PM

MetalMonster, I am a former Adventist, former AAA 4 year student AND former alumni president... I attended the academy with Scott and knew him by all appearances as the very picture of the Adventist Christian. And I have seen other people fall just as hard or harder. People that just days before had led the Sabbath School classes, held position as elder, etc. This does not make one immune, in fact it can set the stage for... Scott made a huge mistake, one he will be held accountable for. My point is that as long as people view religion and its institutions as 'safe' from human behavior, this type of 'tragedy' will continue... We are each accountable for our actions. The church and its illusion of safety is the perfect breeding ground for this type of incident. I recall my years there with great fondness. As I said earlier, it is an excellent school, excellent teachers, and full of wonderful kids. We must realize that religion is not spirituality. A dangerous misconception...

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metalmonster said on February 20, 2010 at 8:51 PM

I am not a member of the Adventist Church nor did I know Mr Spies, However I do know many of the people who work and teach at the Academy. This guy does not represent what this school is about. The Academy folks I know are a outstanding group of people. People I would trust with my life and my children. I really feel for the administration, faculty and students. Spies obviously deserves to be punished to the fullest extent the law allows.. I know its nature to blame the church, blame the school.. blame religion... But how about blaming Mr Spies? How about holding him accountable for his actions? Sure you can anonymously sit at your computer and blast hate and disgust with no regard to who gets hurt.... I am not going to change anyone's mind, regardless I am willing to stand up for my friends at the Academy. I hope Spies gets what he has coming and my heart goes out to those caught in the crossfire.

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observor2 said on February 20, 2010 at 8:47 PM

This is a perfect example of people thinking that religion is spirituality. It is sad that such a fine institution must pay the price for another incidence of hypocrisy. There seems to be a direct relationship between the level of religious 'righteousness' and the tendency of such irresponsible behavior. Religion suppresses (in my opinion) spiritual accountability and unfortunately tends to nurture the emotionally and morally unstable in its darker corners. Legalistic doctrine is a dangerous illusion.... hopefully this sad experience will serve to enlighten others.... May both participants in this tragedy learn and heal....

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the_commando said on February 20, 2010 at 8:40 PM

Well, at least he didn't murder anybody under god's name, like Arabs do now. Go to hell, Arabs.

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triumph110 said on February 20, 2010 at 8:28 PM

This is happening all over the country. Go to www.schoolteachernews.com and click on the Scandal page. This year they have already documented over 90 of these types of incidents. They also have a map of where the incidents have taken place. In 2009 they found 464 of these kinds of cases.

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dirtydon said on February 20, 2010 at 8:15 PM

Helping the victim heal? He must have a big one.

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howie12800600265 said on February 20, 2010 at 7:54 PM

It's a shame that so many "saved" people are out there spreading their falsehoods of Christianity and heresy. It's complete blasphemy, and it desicrates the Word. It is far worse to pretend you are Christian, than to simply instead turn away from Him. It seems like many "christians" I meet today have this mentality and its crippling to the Church.

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family_man said on February 20, 2010 at 7:49 PM

Churches aren't to blame here - God's not to blame. We all have our own agency and this man obviously has made some bad choices and he will pay the consiquence. I am greatful to see the church react so quickly - that is refreshing. I hope the man never teaches again. I also hope the girl realizes she's not inocent in all this either. Although our law puts the full responsibilty on the Adult, I believe at that age you should know better and have some accoutability for your actions.

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zimmerblade said on February 20, 2010 at 7:44 PM

There's only one thing I'm getting from this story. That sin and the devil are working very hard in the world to bring everyone down in some sort of way.

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organdonor said on February 20, 2010 at 7:42 PM

Nothing new here except it was a girl this time. They usually prey on the little boys.

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the_commando said on February 20, 2010 at 7:28 PM

I'll tell you about modern day churches. They're fake! Most of them are!! But I'm sure there're very few churches which stay true to Jesus. It's my mission to find at least one of them.

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factoid said on February 20, 2010 at 7:25 PM

Yes, well said bazwest.

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the_commando said on February 20, 2010 at 7:13 PM

Well, you've been warned about the false prophet....

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97850 said on February 20, 2010 at 6:59 PM

If god existed, surely he would have prevented this?

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contraryjim said on February 20, 2010 at 6:29 PM

Religious beliefs appear to be impediments to knowledge of sexual relations. They must be consensual, or it is an assault. Traditional role models are a problem. Hormones are a problem and a disciplinary knowledge of oneself is necessary for good relations. Socialtal expectations are a contributing problem. Laws seem to muddy the way.

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aziza said on February 20, 2010 at 6:29 PM

Well said bazwest

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bazwest said on February 20, 2010 at 5:27 PM

Shame on you Mr Spies. You abused your position of trust and now its time you should pay the piper. I hope this young girl develops the fortitude she is going to need to get on with her life and beyond this inexcusable crime.

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