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Puyallup couple says squatters trying to take over their home

by LINDA BYRON / KING 5 News

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Posted on March 8, 2010 at 5:45 PM

Updated Monday, Mar 8 at 10:34 PM

PUYALLUP, Wash. - Imagine falling behind on your house payment and winding up in foreclosure only to see strangers move in and claim they can live there! It's happening all over the country - people moving in to vacant homes claiming they're abandoned.

But it's the first time we've reported on it in Western Washington. It's advertised as a way to get real estate for pennies on the dollar, or even free.

But the real question: Is it legal?

Eric and Ashlei Bogue say they were shocked when they drove by their house in Puyallup last weekend and saw someone else moving in.

The Bogues say they had fallen behind on their payments, and moved out a year ago. Unable to sell, the house slipped into foreclosure.

They say they were forced to break into their own home. The locks had been changed. They pried open the garage door. Inside they found living room and bedroom furniture, pictures of strangers and food in the fridge.

“Someone else's decorations, someone else's pictures of their kids on my fridge… blows me away," said Ashlei.

They say some drywall and carpet had been damage.

The new occupants told them they were making a claim to the house because it had been abandoned.

"They told us they were renting it, and that they were doing adverse possession on the property," said Bogue.

Adverse possession is a quirky provision under an old state law that allows people to stake a claim to abandoned property if they openly use it for seven to ten years.

We showed the adverse possession claims filed on the Bogues' home to a real estate attorney.

"What they amount to is some stranger coming in and recording something that looks legal and using that to claim the property. These are not functionally any different than a forged deed," said Gerald Robison.

Robison says "adverse possession" claims are being made all over the country and are even promoted on the Internet and in books as perfectly legal.

"It's taking someone else's property and trying to make money off of it," he explained.

For the Bogues, seeing their house slip into foreclosure was bad enough, but now this.

Eric Bogue says it won’t end tonight

“We’re coming back tomorrow, and we’ll let them take their stuff out of the house," he said.

And he says, he’ll have some words to say to the woman they say who moved in: “Tell her nice try.”

The woman living in the house with her children wouldn't talk to us on camera, but on the phone she said she is paying rent to a property management company that she works for and that they are trying to obtain the property under adverse possession. She says she feels they are actually helping the community by living in a house that was an abandoned eyesore and they feel they're not doing anything wrong.

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seattlecitizen said on June 14, 2010 at 2:37 PM

This is a perfect example of how people are perverting and twisting the law of adverse possession (aka, "legalized land theft.") The sad thing is that WA Rep., Jamie Pedersen killed a bill, (HB 1479) which would have abolished adverse possession in WA. Instead, we have to deal with these kinds of greedy people who think they can use the law of adverse possession to steal property from others. Adverse possession needs to end now! As for the post below - seblagg is missing the whole point -- people are trying to use adverse possession as a way to steal! That is definitely news! Clearly, he's baffled, and we'll leave it at that.

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dontknowthefacts said on March 9, 2010 at 9:32 AM

If you don't know their cirmumstances you shouldn't be so negetive. You know the old term walk a mile in their shoes. And yes they are still responsible for the house until it is sold or auctioned off.

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jackwong said on March 9, 2010 at 9:24 AM

@rain264: Foreclosures take months to process before it's fully done. When they say "went into foreclosure," it may of meant she is "hoping for it to go to foreclosure." It has to go through the proper channels. Maybe her bank was holding off foreclosing her. I guess the most funny thing in this story is not what the homeowner is doing... but someone deciding to squat there and claiming it is legal. Adverse Posession laws are just very funny today, only made a little sense 100 years ago when people made claims to uber acres of land without using it. But in the city, it's just wierd. Now, it is a way for people to purposefully build onto other people's yard, and to now to squatt at other people's houses in a dense city.

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rain264 said on March 9, 2010 at 8:56 AM

I don't get this.... The Bogue's moved out a year ago, drove by this past weekend to someone else living there. Why are the Bogue's worried about it if they moved out and haven't lived there in a year? Doesn't the bank possess it now? Help me out here please...

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dehsa said on March 9, 2010 at 8:14 AM

Nobody,, but the collection agency has told me that I can't live here without making payments. And my mortgage co. has sent a rep. out twice to confirm that I'm the "owner". I haven't been able to make a payment for 7 months. A house lived in generally holds up better than a vacant one,unless of course, you live like a pig. So it's to the mortgage co.s advantage not to throw you out untill they have other plans-or you can pick up the mortgage.

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skippypotpiebaby said on March 9, 2010 at 7:38 AM

What have here is white trash

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crazyeddie said on March 9, 2010 at 7:28 AM

So Kaylee, how is it better to leave the house empty until it becomes a crack house that they have to pay to destroy? Then they get nothing, I Know 10 cents on the dollar is unrealistic, but what I was saying is for them to lower the house to a sellable price before it is destroyed. Some may have to go that low, but most would sell for a discount that would save the bank in the long run.

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jenasal said on March 9, 2010 at 3:37 AM

What an outrage hard working people who left and expected to have the bank foreclose on it, comes to find someone who just takeover my goodness I dont know how they can live with them selves!!!

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anyone2 said on March 9, 2010 at 1:53 AM

breaking and entering and trespassing comes to mind... jail

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jonnybeggar said on March 9, 2010 at 1:30 AM

i just hope someone has a lawyer

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jackwong said on March 9, 2010 at 1:11 AM

@voiceofreason: If the title still haven't fully left you yet, letting someone in your house may spell liability if someone gets hurt. It is a real goofy deal, all this adverse posession stuff can happen before any paperwork is done. But when sh*t does happen, who knows, one could argue it back and make the current legal owner on paper bear the responsibility.

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voiceofreason said on March 9, 2010 at 12:30 AM

Are these people in the story missing several chromosomes?! If you fall behind on your house payments, move elsewhere and the bank forecloses-THE HOUSE IS NO LONGER SOMETHING YOU CAN/NEED/WANT TO WORRY ABOUT! If the bank cared one whit they would kick out the new pretenders. [Insert "You Win The Prize" image here]

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voiceofreason said on March 9, 2010 at 12:25 AM

Wow! Talk about your hustles, so this is to say I can eyeball a few empty foreclosed houses here and there, style myself as a "Property Management Company", charge rent to other people on homes I don't even own, and snowjob them into thinking they are doing a public service? At the same time I don't know how to feel sorry for-the people that were foreclosed on/moved out last year/yet still give a rat's hindquarters about their house, or the squatters dumb enough to pay rent to a 'property management company' and think they are legit and performing the Lord's work by doing so. . .

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eightwrong said on March 9, 2010 at 12:05 AM

This is such a great scam and the "former" homeowners aren't very bright. The property management company is bogus. The bank didn't give them the property to rent or they'd be the rightful landlords without having to talk about adverse possession. Have you noticed all the ads on Craigslist recently placed by "property management companies"? And hey, "homeowners"--it's not yours anymore. It belongs to the bank and has belonged to the bank for a long time. Get over it.

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kaylee95 said on March 8, 2010 at 11:16 PM

crazyeddie said on March 8, 2010 at 8:33 PMWhy would the bank allow a place to sit and be taken over if they could sell it for even ten cents on the dollar? *********** Well, because the banks would have to write it off as a loss and bankee would go out of business. Seen the news lately? All the big banks.

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wittyname said on March 8, 2010 at 11:12 PM

Clearly this woman is clueless as to what the term eyesore refers to. This house looks just as good as any of the others on the street. In this instance the essence of the law does not factor into what is happening. The requirement is that someone has to have used the property for seven to ten years. This woman did not use the property for seven to ten years and neither did the property management company mentioned which means the law mentioned does not apply.

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kaylee95 said on March 8, 2010 at 11:11 PM

I see the orig. home buyers got back in tonight. Well, now they will squat until the they're kicked out.

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heb1023 said on March 8, 2010 at 9:57 PM

Squatters are crazy. I bought a house at foreclosure auction over five weeks ago and I haven't even been able to get posession of it because I have to evict the squatters! Meanwhile I have to pay the mortgage.

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trucker45 said on March 8, 2010 at 8:55 PM

I saw some other information from another news source. The guy the squatters are renting the house from has no title or other permission to be doing what he is doing. He stated that he is doing a public service by putting people in the house so that it is not a vacant house. If you googled up shady character his picture would surely show up. If you do not own the house or have any claim with any legal basis to rent said house how is it not stealing? It does sound like a get somewhat richer quick deal though. With NO money down pickup free houses to rent.

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aziza said on March 8, 2010 at 8:40 PM

This is just great, first of all the banks are leaving homes abandoned ALL over! We have so many homes that are in foreclosure in our neighborhood and they have been abandoned for more than a year. Rocks are being thrown at them, yards are not mowed and fences are being broken. Banks need to be held accountable for leaving the properties abandoned in the process. Secondly, sorry lady but if it sounds too good to be true, then it's not legit.

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crazyeddie said on March 8, 2010 at 8:33 PM

Why would the bank allow a place to sit and be taken over if they could sell it for even ten cents on the dollar? I would love to pick up a fixer-upper for a good deal to get away from rent, but I am not going to steal a house to do it.

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wrsawy said on March 8, 2010 at 8:31 PM

Uh,,, if I saw them in MY house they would find the pavement real fast. Try moving in my house and see what happens? Losers. W

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gritz said on March 8, 2010 at 8:18 PM

If all you have to do is cruise the neighborhood for empty homes and move in then I fail to see why there's homeless. I know there is a few on Gravely Lake Drive, lake front, boat dock, just Upgrade. I don't care for that snobby neighborhood anyway. Anything is the 300 sq. feet, on Mercer Island, w/ 3 door garage. Must have good schools and private toilet.

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yogibear said on March 8, 2010 at 7:32 PM

clear2copy FYI the economy is bad and people are losing their jobs,

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kaia210 said on March 8, 2010 at 7:29 PM

Those people that "moved" into that house I feel are very wrong. I also want to say that bad things happen to good people. Dont condemn the people that walked away from that house. Circumstances have caused the problems and sometimes thats what happens. My nephew who lives in Palm Bay Fl found out the hard way. He bought a house 5 years ago, he recieved a job transfer to Arizona, has tried to sell his home in Fl for about 18 months now. He has lowered the price numerous times and no buyer. He bought the house for 225,000.00. He has it now listed at 89,000.00. My point being in all this is dont condemn the the people that walked away. My nephew as of the end of March is letting his house in Fl go into floclosure rather than keep trying to sell it. The bank needs to kick those people out pronto. If they want the house they need to buy it the right way!!

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shan79marie said on March 8, 2010 at 7:25 PM

Um... more like trespassing?!?

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jackwong said on March 8, 2010 at 7:01 PM

@seblagg: Yes, they left a few things out, because they probably couldn't believe how wacky the laws is. It's 7 years if you paid property taxes on it, and 10 if you just were using it. Yes, one can claim LEGAL title to it. Lawyers love these cases, cause it's grey, lots to argue, and if homeowners don't pay up for the fees, it's easy to lien the house. That's why this wacky law is still here. I don't think there is a error in the story, but in this case, the homeowner can easily reclaim it.

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mrcrowley said on March 8, 2010 at 6:58 PM

What a sketchy deal for the lady's kids to live through. I can hear the dinner conversation now, " Who was Daddy and is this really our real house , Mommy?"

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clear2copy said on March 8, 2010 at 6:58 PM

meh..pay your bills.. there'll be nothing to worry about

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seblagg said on March 8, 2010 at 6:54 PM

And by the way, I think you mean "forged deed," not "forged dead."

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skippythedog said on March 8, 2010 at 6:53 PM

dirtbags

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seblagg said on March 8, 2010 at 6:53 PM

Okay King 5, there are so many holes in this story, I don't even know where to begin. First - Adverse Possession - You have to look no further than the Washington State RCW to see that there are very specific qualifications to adversely possess a piece of property - namely living openly in the home for AT LEAST 7 YEARS and paying all property taxes. Obviously this isn't a case of adverse possession. Now, whether the bank owns the property or not is an issue for the foreclosure statute. Either way, I'm completely baffled as to why this made the evening news. This isn't news!

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jppatches said on March 8, 2010 at 6:45 PM

wow. this is unbelieveable. it's time to change the laws, this isn't the 1920's. I'd be MAD.

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garebear55 said on March 8, 2010 at 6:20 PM

In this present society, nothing surprises me any more. Ultimately it will mean more laws and bigger state government, and somehow higher taxes.

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starteck81 said on March 8, 2010 at 6:14 PM

Are you kidding me? Doesn't the bank own that property if the owners fall behind on their loan and get foreclosed?

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