Pastor calls for nationwide Starbucks boycott over gay marriage

ghyll said on March 23, 2012 at 10:59 AM

I am a straight, married male as well as a Christian. I think that the public and government should back out of telling an individual what they can do when it is something that is none of their business. God will be the one who makes the final judgement. We have more important things to worry about than same sex marriage. Let spend the time and money that is being spent on this to clean our government up and helping people in the USA. The Bible tells us to love mankind and not judge our fellow mankind.

deathpanelist said on February 6, 2012 at 6:39 PM

Does this church practice: killing a child who hits or talks back their parents? Exodus 21:15 Slavery Ephesians 6:5 NLT Marry the person who rapes you. Deuteronomy 22:28-29 NLT I'm guesssing they don't practice any of these. The hypocrisy with many christians is just embarrassing

Conseula said on February 4, 2012 at 6:35 PM

@emptynestr..Hey, these comments are from the "real world." You must fall into the category of one who is suffering from mind control or brain washing..These comments get my intellectual juices flowing..I learn a lot..You should try same..

Conseula said on February 4, 2012 at 6:33 PM

Bottom Line!! Since when DID THE CHURCH BECOME A TAX SHELTERED RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATION AND BECOME A LEGISLATIVE POLITICAL ACTION GROUP??? I have always been of the understanding that churches/Ministors, Priests/etc. cannot spew their political belief on their congregation and still receive tax relief benefits..They are ministers of God and not ministers of supporting a political candidate. Sad part is, many of these religious zealots behind the pulpit brain wash their members and their word is the word they are receiving from God...dah! and these poor souls, like sheep, just follow and do whatever these so called men of God tell them to..don't use the God gift of their brains and become "brain washed" and full under the influence of "mind control" religion.

backinmyday said on February 4, 2012 at 5:43 PM

@emptynestr; How ironic, you are willing to use your First Amendment Rights in order to try to trample on everyone else's First Amendment Rights, I would say what you are doing is null and void. Why don't you get an education and try using the proper speech and syntax.

BraveNewWhirled said on February 3, 2012 at 9:49 PM

@emptynestr, your comment is udderly reditclus and rediculous! Fraingcklee, eyem onedring wy you're hait is spyouing? May be spend a phew moar yeers in scool.

BraveNewWhirled said on February 3, 2012 at 9:43 PM

@Jerri, I remember the phrase in the Constitution separating church and state. It was taught to me by the ancient sages of the government schools. They were able to produce actual documents by John Dewey, Horace Mann and Karl Marx to prove it. The only god that makes mistakes is the god we call us.

Jerri said on February 3, 2012 at 8:00 PM

If this church is going to boycott the corporations who came out in support of this legislation, they're going to going without a lot. Microsoft is one of those businesses. I abide by my faith, that's my relationship with God and my beliefs. But, we have this document called a Constitution that demands a separation of church and state. And as much as many of us follow the teachings expressed in the Bible, the Bible is not the constitution of the United States nor the constitution of the State of Washington. Just as there is a huge difference between God's law and Church doctrine, there is a difference between the scriptures of many religions and our Constitution. This legislation is about civil law and marriages, not about the sacraments that are bestowed and celebrated in our churches. The law that lets me practice my faith is the same law that allows for marriage equity. God doesn't make junk nor mistakes. We are all His children and deserve the love, respect of one another.

emptynestr said on February 3, 2012 at 6:48 PM

I am calling KING-TV to stop this comment section on this subject due to the hostile and disgusting hateful comments going on for over 15 pages now. This is rediculous.

emptynestr said on February 3, 2012 at 6:16 PM

KING-TV ENOUGH OF this disgusting bashing on both sides. PLEASE CUT THE COMMENTS OFF. This is totally redicutlous and IF you don't I am going to BOYCOTT KING-TV. If you are gettng some personal satisfaction out of this disgusting drival then YOU are just as guilt of "HATE" mongering as all the people on here have been. STOP IT NOW.

phil49 said on February 3, 2012 at 5:01 PM

When did that church quit being a tax sheltered religious organization and become a legislative/political action group? They cannot be both in this country of freedom and EQUALITY. Unlike the old world, this country is not run by the church. The Bible states that we are ALL sinners and may cite some forms of marriage or relationships as a sin. Why are you casting the first stone?? No church in the Bible was awarded the right to judge anyone. That power has been reserved for someone much greater than any church. You may give guidence to your flock - but not society. Now I have to go out a buy a Starbucks Coffee in support of equal rights..

palinsux said on February 3, 2012 at 4:28 PM

invalid, The bible thumpers keep babbling about the "rapture". Gawd is going to take all the "real" Christians up to heaven and leave the rest of us here. Frankly, I think it's alot of BS. More wierd bible thumping fantasies. The rapture is in the same wackadoodle department such as angels, the virgin birth, walking on water, raising the dead and the rest of that nonsense. The holy rollers say "Gawd is gonna take us to heaven!" And I say "So leave already!" JacksonM......"Your religion is not my religion, so don't force your beliefs on me." What a joke! "IN GOD we trust" is on our currency. Before you can testify in court, you're forced to swear on a BIBLE. In the pledge of allegiance there's "one nation UNDER GOD". You bible thumpers have been forcing your religion down our throats since day one.

fosterp said on February 3, 2012 at 4:21 PM

Sounds like this guy is just giving starbucks more positive publicity. I didn't even know starbucks was supporting this legislation - now that I do maybe I'll stop there more often.

jonholm said on February 3, 2012 at 4:12 PM

Well that makes about as much sense as organized religion.

JacksonM said on February 3, 2012 at 3:30 PM

a6chris said on February 3, 2012 at 12:12 PM "I can hardly wait for the bible thumpers to finally have their "rapture" so we can get them out of our lives!." Obviously - you are not educated on this subject, during the rapture believers abrutly depart - to heaven. A life of Hell begins for you here on earth. Until the world is finally consumed by fire and you as a non believer are thrown into the lake of fire - and death. Just as if you never were. Belief in God and assurance of eternal life is free and I do not want to take a chance that it is all wrong - do you? _______________________ That is only what one religion believes. That doesn't mean it is true, does it? There are many different religions with many different beliefs, and many different thoughts on the afterlife. Keep yours to yourself, thank you very much. Your religion is not my religion, so don't force your beliefs on me.

sixty said on February 3, 2012 at 2:46 PM

and I call for a nationwide boycott of Pastor Steven Andrew and USA Christian Ministries - so I'm waiting for my boycott to be given front page exposure. USA Christian Ministries - - no address of it's church on it's website - address for donations is a mailbox at a UPS store in San Jose, CA - most supposed links on his site (except for the one about how to send him money) go nowhere the press just gave this unaffiliated whack job w/ no flock free publicity to raise money which he pockets

invalid said on February 3, 2012 at 2:15 PM

@palinsux should read "Left Behind". It's fiction and not a definitive description of what life will be like after the rapture, but it's certainly worth considering.

mr_conservative said on February 3, 2012 at 1:44 PM

@a6chris - Let's not tell 'em that once we leave, they've only got seven years of debauchery left.

oldlewy said on February 3, 2012 at 1:36 PM

is the next of this progression to require our schools to teach same sex education?

a6chris said on February 3, 2012 at 1:12 PM

"I can hardly wait for the bible thumpers to finally have their "rapture" so we can get them out of our lives!." Obviously - you are not educated on this subject, during the rapture believers abrutly depart - to heaven. A life of Hell begins for you here on earth. Until the world is finally consumed by fire and you as a non believer are thrown into the lake of fire - and death. Just as if you never were. Belief in God and assurance of eternal life is free and I do not want to take a chance that it is all wrong - do you?

blairj said on February 3, 2012 at 1:07 PM

Usually prefer Tully's, but I'm goin out to get a *$$ right now instead.

palinsux said on February 3, 2012 at 12:24 PM

I can hardly wait for the bible thumpers to finally have their "rapture" so we can get them out of our lives!

flwright64 said on February 3, 2012 at 12:11 PM

Sigh. Sorry Diet Coke. I'm dumping you to start my day with Starbucks.

AliP14 said on February 3, 2012 at 12:11 PM

I am Christian (ironically, we don't drink coffee in my religion so I guess I boycott them everyday......). I think that they can back whomever they please based on their personal convictions (even though I happen to disagree with them). My disagreement is only based on the fact that the way this legislation is written will obligate people who believe and feel differently (due to religious belief) to participate in activities that are contrary to their personal convictions. I honestly feel like it reaches into my personal life and compels me to agree (because now there is a legal repercussion) with how someone else chooses to live their life. I honestly feel that I can disagree with someone and still respect them and their ability to choose. I wish we could get some legislation written that would respect both groups involved in this issue.

forkmaster said on February 3, 2012 at 12:08 PM

I'm for it. The gay lifestyle is not normal, and either is gay marriage. Anybody who agrees with it is only looking for votes, money or sympathy.

oldlewy said on February 3, 2012 at 11:05 AM

This is so confusing?

tootoo said on February 3, 2012 at 10:48 AM

When did Christianity become less about Jesus and more about trampling everyone they don't agree with under foot?

a6chris said on February 3, 2012 at 10:21 AM

As Christians we are not to judge or to live a sinful life. Yet we are imperfect , just like everyone else and will sin, the difference being we are forgiven because we know Christ paid for them. Education is key and living by the bilbe is very HARD. The Pastor is passing judgement and that in and of itself is sin. Rather he should; John 13:34 New International Version (NIV) 34 “A new command I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. Romans 12:2 New International Version (NIV) 2 Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God’s will is—his good, pleasing and perfect will. Jesus faced a mob that was eager to execute a woman caught in adultery. He put a stop to it with a simple challenge: anyone who has no sin in their life should step forward and throw the first stone.

davinwa said on February 3, 2012 at 9:43 AM

I'm on my way for a Venti right now!

mr_conservative said on February 3, 2012 at 9:37 AM

@Maxium - Where did Pastor Andrew say that he hated someone? Disagreement with someone does not constitute hate...except in the world of liberals. They're all about freedom and free speech...so long as it's *liberal* speech.

Maxium said on February 3, 2012 at 9:26 AM

Hey Pastor Steven Andrew, isnt it against Christianity to HATE someone else? Hey Steve, how do you feel about the Crusades?

emptynestr said on February 3, 2012 at 9:04 AM

I think it's time KING-TV took this comment section down. It is getting extremely offensive and obnoxious. Nobody is winning here and it is just disgusting the way everyone is conducting themselves. Enough is enough. End this conversation. All it is, is a mud slinging contest.

emptynestr said on February 3, 2012 at 9:02 AM

@backinmyday How well do YOU know the Bible? You seem to have all the answers so tell us what it really means since you are so smart and know so much about it, Most of you on here spewing out so much HATE yourselves ought to be ashamed of yourselves for doing the very same thing you accuse this Pastor and other Christians of doing. Two wrongs don't make a right.

skok_cush said on February 3, 2012 at 8:53 AM

Road to Hell is Paved with Good Intentions. Maybe this is how the dinosaurs whent extinct, they all turned gay.

tootoo said on February 3, 2012 at 7:50 AM

Excuse me while I go laugh for about 15 minutes and then go buy my second Starbucks in 5 years.

deepsee said on February 3, 2012 at 7:48 AM

Blah, blah, blah, god, jesus, satan, blah, blah, blah, the bible, church, pastor, blah, blah, blah, sinners, saints, martyrs, blah, blah, blah...

stonetrails said on February 3, 2012 at 7:46 AM

Well all I know (or at least I think I know) is Jesus was not gay and he did not go to Starbucks. So, I'm not gay and I'm not going to Starbucks either.

bubbalmt said on February 3, 2012 at 7:25 AM

Oh, and I'm christian, but I don't go to church, and am against boycotting free enterprise. Leave it up to the consumer, not the grand-standers

bubbalmt said on February 3, 2012 at 7:24 AM

Whether you're for gay marriage or against gay marriage, you'll still go to Starbucks. They control you. You're a bunch of sheep in this state. Personally, I couldn't care less about gay marriage. I'm not gay, and i'm not married, therefore I don't care.

whispah said on February 3, 2012 at 6:11 AM

Pastor hates, pastor spits venom, pastor wants all to stoop down to his level of bigotry. Is this what Jesus would do?? Certainly not pastor, and you just showed the entire world that you are full of hate and no one likes bible thumpers or modern day spanish inquisitions. You are acting like a terrorist or cult leader trying to get the whole world to see your side when all you are doing is swimming upstream while the flock abandons you.

backinmyday said on February 3, 2012 at 1:13 AM

If you are against same sex marriage, then don't marry a gay person, problem solved. This pastor needs to keep his religion and his interpretation of his bible out of our lives, didn't ask for his advice, don't want it, and don't need it thank you very much. This guy is a cook and he likes to cherry pick from the bible as many people do. For example, they like to quote that homosexuality is bad, but slavery, killing your offspring for disobeying you, beating your wife occasionally for not being submissive, etc.. all of that can be ignored. The bible, an over 2000 year old book that's been translated numerous times with stories told by ingorant sheep herders that didn't understand what they were seeing at the time. The only thing we got out of it was an imaginary best friend with infinite omnipotent ability who needed to create a loop hole by sacrificing himself in order to save our mortal souls instead of just saving our mortal souls afterall he did create biblical law didn't he?

emptynestr said on February 3, 2012 at 12:45 AM

I give up even trying to discuss this subject with you people. Right now I think I just want to vomit with all the hate talk on here.

ti3ber said on February 3, 2012 at 12:40 AM

Judge not lest ye be judged. Just another Pastor using religion to further his own agenda. This man does not speak for all Christians, and anyone who casts all Christians into the same pot as this guy are the bigots they accuse others of being. I will get my coffee from Starbucks tomorrow.

cantora said on February 3, 2012 at 12:25 AM

I’m a Christian and I think that Paster Steven and all his ilk have jumped the shark on this one. Jesus would never have given two hoots about who wanted to marry who, or where they got their coffee. Honestly, be real Christians and stop spreading hate in Jesus’s name. Go find someone to love already, and maybe start with yourself. Why is this news?

emptynestr said on February 3, 2012 at 12:24 AM

I am just sad at all the bashing of Christianity. You people REALLY DO NOT UNDERSTAND what it is all about. I agree many who call themselves Christians are not walking the talk and that also bothers me. It is about a RELATIONSHIP with Jesus and NOT about RELIGION. I am sure God weeps at the way HIS creation is carrying on with one another. The thing is...ALL of us have sinned and come short of God's glory. And it is more about repentance (each ONE OF US) than it is about being RIGHT. We need to stop pointing the finger at others and take care of our own evil tongue and heart...the things that we each say and do to each other. WIth every 1 finger we point at others there are 4 pointing back at ourselves. NO, the Bible is NOT ARCHAIC or OUTDATED. It is just as revelant today as it was 2000 years ago. It's just that we refuse to submit to what God desires for us to do and that is to humble ourselves and obey His commands. But hardness of hearts is what I am seeing here.

cat8mice said on February 3, 2012 at 12:24 AM

LOVING HOMOSEXUALS ? I have never seen a group of people more hateful to christians than gays !! You are like that because you KNOW your behavior is perverted, unnatural and sick. I don't care what you say about me as a Christian. You can call me names, tell me I'm judgmental, whatever and I am not offended because I know who my God is. You seem to need to be told your O.K but it will never help you because Your not ok. You want us to accept our behavior because you need reassurance that you are not perverse. Even if people accept your lifestyle it won't matter because you will never be at peace with it. We are not judging you the BIble is. He says that you have a reprobate mind because you have denied him. That means you cannot hear his voice because you have denied him

rnl52 said on February 2, 2012 at 11:23 PM

I have several gay friends and I would rather sit with them in Starbucks drinking over-roasted coffee than sit in your church and drink your wine. With this type of hatred for your fellow man, methinks you are the one following Satan.

starteck81 said on February 2, 2012 at 11:02 PM

Being a Christian myself, I would say that the freedom to choose is the most important thing. Others may not believe what you believe but they have the right to choose their own path. As long as you do not abuse your freedom of choice by harming others than you should be able to do what you want. I also do not believe that a few people abusing a freedom should cause the rest of the country to have to give up that said freedom, but I digress. That is a topic for another day.

pete1427 said on February 2, 2012 at 10:55 PM

Pastor Steven Andrew----You obviously either never studied the Bible in its entirety, or have opted to ignore the many verses regarding the fact that neither man, nor the Church has the right, or obligation sit in judgement of his fellow man, as that judgement is God's right, and ONLY Gods right. I have not been a patron of Starbucks as I find their coffee over roasted, but I think I'll go in and buy a hot chocolate because an overzealous, judgmental twit such as yourself says I should boycott anyone because of his personal bigotry. It is the actions of people like you that are causing a downturn in church attendance. It is not because they do not believe in the Bible, but they do not want to follow individuals like you that do follow the teaching contained in the Holy Book, but seem to spout their prejudices as being God's will. I am straight myself, but this is truly about freedom to live the lifestyle of anyone's choice not someone who simply ignores God's right of judgement

boobiewah said on February 2, 2012 at 10:09 PM

Look at Fred Phelps and his lovely church filled with God's people, Christians who picket American soldiers' funerals. Yeah, the message of Christ's love is really, truly shining though.....right? Christianity is so, SO very friggin' lost.....and I am a Christian.

boobiewah said on February 2, 2012 at 10:07 PM

Take the hate and bigotry and Praise God with it. He loves that, right? 99% of the world has totally missed the message that Jesus taught. The other 1% is drunk or on drugs. Look again at what the REAL message is. If you care, IF you have the time. Of course, you do not.

boobiewah said on February 2, 2012 at 10:05 PM

Dear Pastor, Look at what Jesus said JUDGE NOT that Ye may be judged. Take your hate and go home, Pastor. In your honor I am stopping at Starbucks tomorrow morning and buying coffee!!

Wayne_Pannab11a said on February 2, 2012 at 9:57 PM

I'm not afraid of gay people. I am more afraid of pastors who pass judgements on their fellow man, woman and child.

javajoe said on February 2, 2012 at 9:46 PM

No more Starbucks for me.

cagey said on February 2, 2012 at 9:32 PM

My God hates small minded, bigoted people.

dentalgirl57 said on February 2, 2012 at 9:26 PM

I hate the phrase "hate the sin, love the sinner..." What a cop out. Since what you define as the sin is inherent in who that person is, in reality you still "hate" the sinner. Since when is hate a part of Christ's message to the world. Love thy neighbor, let he who is without sin cast the first stone...these are the messages I remember from the church I attended as a child. Societies are not cast in stone, they are ever changing. There are so many other pressing issues we need to solve, this is not one of them. I totally agree with garmo 98. If you are going to get involved in politics then you lose your right to be tax free. Make the choice...

jackwong said on February 2, 2012 at 9:05 PM

Let's have a nationwide boycott on Church! Oh wait, it's already happening! LOL

jjl44 said on February 2, 2012 at 8:39 PM

Come on pastor Steve you must be another closet case....the ones who speak the loudest and oppose are covering up their own backyard. Are you really living a sin free christian life to the fullest. Remember it only takes 1 thing you've done against the bible and you are a hypocrite. GET LOST

wamatt said on February 2, 2012 at 8:30 PM

Okay Pastor Steve, just tell us who else you hate. Then we can boycott who ever you want and follow everything you say and do. Blah, blah and blah!!! Get over yourself and really be a christian man. Stop with the hate speech and bigotry.

norsky said on February 2, 2012 at 8:24 PM

You are not much of a christian when you display this attitude.. If I ever gave to the Christian Ministries it would not happen again..

goldiemae said on February 2, 2012 at 8:22 PM

Cool, no more waiting in line at Starbucks! Way to go Pastor Andrews.

dakotanative said on February 2, 2012 at 8:07 PM

I guess if I avoid Starbucks, and someone else goes there to offset it, I win double. I have five more bucks in my pocket and you have five less.

Lisa_Marie_Vf62 said on February 2, 2012 at 8:06 PM

This pastor uses the word "hate" too much, when describing his plight. I doubt this boycott is going to affect Starbucks very much.

dano989 said on February 2, 2012 at 8:01 PM

I'm calling for a boycott of USA Christian Ministries! Boycott the haters!!!

dakotanative said on February 2, 2012 at 8:00 PM

I find it interesting that King5 is still using a list of companies that support the bill even though atleast one, and probably many, have NOT endorsed the bill. Slander.

tasherz21 said on February 2, 2012 at 7:50 PM

michele1. If you want to talk about "USA freedom is Christian freedom and not all freedoms" why don't we go back to who was on this land first then. The Indians. So then it should be the Indians freedom and no one elses? Grow up. You are talking centuries ago. I may not be a religious person, but its so funny to read about his and all the comments. I love it. And just because of this artical, the company I work for ordered from Starbucks today. That was over 90 drinks!

seattlegirl19 said on February 2, 2012 at 7:47 PM

one thing someone should tell the opponents. is that god/bible also says" Let no debt remain outstanding, except the continuing debt to love one another, for he who loves his fellowman has fulfilled the law." "Love each other. Just as I have loved you""Love your neighbor as yourself." you also have to remember that the bible they are quoting is when we need some population

MBina said on February 2, 2012 at 7:38 PM

I don't understand how people can call themselves Christians and display hatred as this pastor does. He sure elicited some anger in me - but towards him and his views. So, instead of making myself some coffee at home I will go and buy my coffee at Starbucks for a while . It sure is worth the money to me to show that I believe in love and not hate. How can this group of "Christians" misinterpret God's message so completely?

garmo98 said on February 2, 2012 at 7:29 PM

It's interesting that in the midst of all this hate-centered "Christianity" several facts are forgotten. First of all, the choke hold some feel belongs to "the church" regarding marriage is a farce. Today, anyone with a computer and $10 can obtain the right to perform a marriage. That's because, like it or not, marriage in this country has everything to do with taxes ad property rights. Where you worship has nothing to do with the legal requirements or advantages. Secondly, we have no state religion; hence the concept of separation of church and state. Perhaps it's time we all called the church bluff. If you want to dabble in political issues then do so; just pay taxes on your property, your buildings, and the income you beg and bully for every Sunday. If not, then return to the business of spiritual uplifting.

gritz said on February 2, 2012 at 7:27 PM

Lets meet half way and get booby coffee. We can be half way right by not getting Starbucks and half way wrong by getting coffee from a half dressed barista.

michele1 said on February 2, 2012 at 7:26 PM

My questions: Why does KING5 seem so intent on promoting his cause on both Ch 5 and NWCN ch 2? If churches are going to promote and fund legislation why are they tax exempt? This is a cut and paste from USA ministries: The First Amendment of our Christian nation says: “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of [one Christian denomination] religion, or prohibiting the free exercise [of Christian religion] thereof…” The First Amendment is not meant for other religions but to allow Americans to practice Christianity in their Christian denomination. Our Founding Fathers declared independence with Christian liberty. Also notice the oaths taken in our nation to God on the Holy Bible. By including the Holy Bible we show this is to the LORD not a foreign god. It is important to understand these two points about our Founding Fathers. They believed: 1. Christian faith is the most important part of life, and 2. USA freedom is for Christian freedom, not all “freedoms”.

luthor said on February 2, 2012 at 7:21 PM

CARNOLIAN said on February 2, 2012 at 5:39 PM: "...We have freedom OF religion not freedom FROM religion." So as an Agnostic retired Naval Aviator, I don't have Freedom FROM your superstitions? Tell me more.

luthor said on February 2, 2012 at 7:15 PM

If, as Pastors like Andrews believe that humans are made in "God's" image....They MUST include Gays, because sexual orientation is determined by genotype and steroid hormonal activity around the time of birth. IT IS NOT A MATTER OF CHOICE. Consequently, Gays deserve rights equal to those of heterosexuals. Andrews just confirms that "The Christian Right is Neither".

fleetwood said on February 2, 2012 at 7:09 PM

Gee Pastor when you walk into any retail store ask the manager only to be served by Christian anti gay help and check out people or you will shop else where. Stabucks is the tip of the iceburg. Unless you are gaining self notoriety for yourself you are surrounded by this evil.

lmariec said on February 2, 2012 at 7:05 PM

Is the pastor planning to boycott Microsoft products as well?

lmariec said on February 2, 2012 at 7:02 PM

I am a Christian heterosexual and although not a coffee drinker, I will be getting tea and hot chocolate at Starbucks as much as possible!

joe_krumbach6806 said on February 2, 2012 at 6:55 PM

I'd say this guy is casting stones, which kind of makes him......not very Christian. He should be turning the other cheek or whatever they do. But American Christians do love their vitriol.

David_Reed638 said on February 2, 2012 at 6:53 PM

It's "rediculous" alright.

DrowningMermaid said on February 2, 2012 at 6:47 PM

He can call for the boycott all he wants. It doesn't mean anyone will follow him or commit to it. The future is now and homosexuality is a real thing, people. Even if you don't consider it normal, it's a regular, every day occurrence and who are we to say if someone can or can't love a person just because they have the same genitals? Welcome to the new generation. Love one another.

emptynestr said on February 2, 2012 at 6:41 PM

That Pastor HAS just as much right to express his views as anyone else because he is just as protected under the Constitution of the United States as anyone else is and to say he shouldn't have tax exemption for his church is rediculous. We have freedom OF religion not freedom FROM religion. Your rights to Freedom of Religion and the free exercise thereof means: The Freedom of Religion is an inalienable right. The First Amendment provides for the Freedom of Religion for all Americans. The Free Exercise Clause provides that government will neither control nor prohibit the free exercise of one’s religion. The government will remain neutral. So whine, belly ache, criticize, slam, excuse etc. all you want. We Christians DO have the RIGHT to voice our opinions regardless if you like what is said or not. You people say a lot of things we don't like too. We still have rights and saying that this Pastor should lose tax exempt status is just "stone throwing."

CARNOLIAN said on February 2, 2012 at 6:39 PM

I and my family are in. Keep this going

edave67812043632 said on February 2, 2012 at 6:37 PM

Dear Pastor Steven Andrews and your followers. It's time to come to terms with the times and accept Marriage equality. While you must think you are doing a fine job preaching scripture, It's obvious that you are not retaining it. God and Jesus practiced compassion and love. While you may think that same sex marriage is not traditional, Love between two humans is. You may think that homosexuality is a choice. It's not. You can't help who you fall in love with. As for boycotting Starbucks. Good for you! I assume that you are also boycotting Microsoft and Google as well. Oh wait with your views, I can only assume that you still use rock and chisel since they are so outdated. These are just a few of the many companies who have supported this. One more thing, I don't believe in Organized religion, It has trashed may lives and cause strife in history. But I won't go out tomorrow and start a petition to ban organized religion! Wise up! Pastor! ¡DavE!

chuckstr76 said on February 2, 2012 at 6:35 PM

This pastor needs to find another hobby.

Ismellcrap said on February 2, 2012 at 6:35 PM

How about a nationwide boycott of religion? Sounds like just as good of an idea if not better... Let the Pastor go get a real job instead of living of the money of his followers...

skok_cush said on February 2, 2012 at 6:25 PM

I HAve never Purchased from Starbucks in my life anyhow. Ive Received Starbucks from others. I just dont get the hype. I have no need to spend $8 or whatever for Coffee and Chocolate. Just make sure all these Insane Divorce/Alimony laws apply to Gays just as Unfairly as they are to Straights. . . . .So when the Straights Come up with a new word for Marriage. . . . . I assume the Gays want that too right?

snakepliskin said on February 2, 2012 at 6:17 PM

Seadog, Starbucks isn't the only coffee vendor in the city. I choose to spend my money elsewhere and your attempts at laying in a guilt trip are weak. Other coffee shops have the product I want and the service I want. They have employees too. What about them?

OpinionDeleted said on February 2, 2012 at 6:16 PM

Meanwhile...15 trillion in debt, homes underwater, 14 milliion looking for jobs, nation building overseas, etc etc...yeah, who cares...i want to tell people they can't get married....

David_Reed638 said on February 2, 2012 at 6:13 PM

The IRS should immediately start investigating Pastor Andrew's church. Since he's willingly placed himself into endorsing a political ideology - while using and flaunting his title as a leader of a church - their tax exemption status should be rescinded..

emptynestr said on February 2, 2012 at 6:12 PM

I agree with mr_conservative There IS a LOT of Biblical ignorance out there. And there is also a lot of BIBLICAL ignorance among many who CLAIM to be Christians as well. And I think that is why (in part) some of you have a difficult time accepting church, Christians and Christianity. Christians are just sinners too and that includes Pastors. The ONLY difference is we are saved from our terrible sinfulness ONLY by the grace and mercy of our God and our Lord Jesus Christ who died in our deserved place on the cross. He conquered the grave that we all deserve to be left in and rose again so that by BELIEVING in HIm we might be forgiven and saved from what we ALL deserve. We are called to REPENTANCE FROM our sins and to walk in OBEDIENCE to Him. And yes, we all fail at that a lot of the time. It is NOT EASY to walk in Jesus footsteps. But we are learning to every day. Please forgive us for where we have caused you to stumble. But we still have freedom of speech just as you do.

zosma said on February 2, 2012 at 6:09 PM

headed to Starbucks right now!!

kitsapkommuter said on February 2, 2012 at 6:06 PM

"I speak for God. Therefore, if you disagree with me, you disagree with God. If you say I don't speak for God, than you are a hater of God" Perfectly logical way of using the bible to justify your own personal power over other members of the community.

aniskyswift48160 said on February 2, 2012 at 6:02 PM

Separation of CHURCH and STATE. PERIOD! Why do we even bring religion into every debate! I don't care what religion or non-religion you are. You treat me with respect and you get the same in return from me. Love is love, marriage is a union regardless of what it is and everyone has the right to a happy fulfilled life with whomever they chose. I know more gay couples that have outlasted straight couples. Please.... Let's just be happy and Gay!!

emptynestr said on February 2, 2012 at 6:01 PM

I am not a coffee drinker and never go to Starbucks anyway. Not hurting my feelings any if I don't darken their doors. : )

gar57 said on February 2, 2012 at 5:59 PM

Mr. conservative: I'm sorry, but you just don't get it. "ignorance" of the Bible is irrelevant if you have made the decision to lead your lead outside of its precepts, which every AMERICAN if legally allowed to do. And please don't follow up with the claims that murder and other crimes would then be allowed, because the criminal code is not solely based on your Bible.

jinxedagain said on February 2, 2012 at 5:58 PM

Uh, Mr. Pastor dude, if you don't like gay marriage, don't get one.

tenspeed said on February 2, 2012 at 5:52 PM

I have read a good bit of the articles and most of them are against the Christians for speaking their piece. Most of the statements even go to the point of removing the Christians freedom of speech. Isn't that against the Constitution as well? If the people that are Christian do stop from purchasing their coffees from Starbucks, what is it to you? It just means that you do not have to put up with their mouths and Scripture while you are in the line. Correct. We cannot take anyones freedoms, now can we? If they want to bring it back up on a bot by all the people, then let them do it. It is their freedom to do so. If you listen to them, they are not against the people, just the act that is considered to be sin in the Bible. Who are the biggots now? Matter of fact, let the Christians speek, and then you do the same if you so desire. As for me and my house, we will serve the LORD. See, I too am a Christian and I do not hate you, just the sin. Have a good day, please.

mr_conservative said on February 2, 2012 at 5:51 PM

There's a lot of biblical ignorance out there...displayed by the liberals, of course.

goamerica said on February 2, 2012 at 5:46 PM

SEADOG206.....If you've got something to say...JUST SAY IT !!! Stop beating aroung the bush. LOL !!

comiccon2010 said on February 2, 2012 at 5:32 PM

someone should give that idiot a coffee enima

whispah said on February 2, 2012 at 5:29 PM

Pastor, let's talk about this over a nice cup of Starbucks....

humevo said on February 2, 2012 at 5:27 PM

Jesus, save me from your followers.

13579 said on February 2, 2012 at 5:26 PM

It is amazing that this pastor wants everyone to boycott Starbucks...but did we forget about Nike and Microsoft.....wait he probably wears Nike gear and uses Microsoft products so he can't support a boycott on those products. Stupid swine!!!!

drewman said on February 2, 2012 at 5:25 PM

Pastor sound's like a idiot. Just saying.

patwe said on February 2, 2012 at 5:24 PM

Thank you for reminding me why I don't go to church.

SEADOG206 said on February 2, 2012 at 5:20 PM

Okay so maybe 80% of the population is Christian. So what? 80% of the population does NOT believe this guy’s draconian babble. Lots of Christians actually believe in equality, including marriage equality. There are more Christians who believe in marriage equality especially in regions where there are more Starbucks stores. These Christians believe in equality because they generally have a higher education which gives them the ability to be critical thinkers. This higher education in conjunction with their critical thinking ability also equates to better jobs which in turn gives them larger disposable incomes in which to spend on a Starbucks coffee. This is in stark contrast to places with lower educations who tend to more bigoted hateful people with lower incomes that probably don’t shop at Starbucks in the first place because they can’t afford it.

SEADOG206 said on February 2, 2012 at 5:19 PM

For those of you, who choose to boycott Starbucks, Please also boycott Microsoft and Apple. Throw away all your computers, all your cell phones all your gadgets, and TV’s and everything else that gives you the ability to propagate uneducated bigotry because more than likely, the companies who produce those products also support equality. I urge you to go back to living in the dark ages plowing your fields with an ox, yoke and plow, lighting your homes with a candle, oil lamps or just the light of day and leave the rest of us to decide for ourselves without you shoving words or thoughts into our mouths.

SEADOG206 said on February 2, 2012 at 5:19 PM

By the way Starbucks IS a Local Company who supports local communities and is in Fortunes top 100 places to work in 2011. If you were to impact their bottom line you would be forcing them to layoff people yes People or do you not care about jobs in this already struggling economy? Maybe you just prefer to care about dictating what other people can and cannot do things that will not impact you in the slightest bit. On a Side note. I thought I had poor spelling and grammar skills until I started reading some of these comments.

JacksonM said on February 2, 2012 at 5:18 PM

Hey Gooch, The Bible called for adulterers to be stoned to death. Are you on board with that? Should we line up everyone on the planet who ever committed adultery (including "leaders" in the conservative movement) and have them all stoned to death?

JacksonM said on February 2, 2012 at 5:16 PM

007jayme said on February 2, 2012 at 3:02 PM We need to call, members of the house, and say not, say no. Need to stand for our faith. Those that voted yes, need to have removed from there spot, there office, that is the down fall of USA ___________ Jayme, I am curious. If you believe in the Bible, then you also believe that adulterers should be stoned to death. Will you therefore call for any politician to be voted out of office if they support Gingrich rather than stone him to death? The Bible also had slavery. Do you advocate a return to slavery? Because, after all, it is all or nothing when it comes to the Bible. You do not get to cherry pick what parts of the Bible should and should be relevant today.

gar57 said on February 2, 2012 at 5:16 PM

007jayme........the Good Book is not the only book. Please pick up some of the others and educate yourself on civics. Lesson number one: ...what the First Amendment means.

plungginalong said on February 2, 2012 at 5:11 PM

This Pastor Steven Andrews is one flat fat lair.. On his You Tube video which is called Gods State of the Union message, he says the Founding Fathers all got down on there knees and prayed to Jesus in his name. What a lair. All this kind of guy is after is money so he can get rich off suckers. So better go to Starbucks, he won't keep me away.

gar57 said on February 2, 2012 at 5:04 PM

Does anyone else think it may be time to revisit the whole "tax-exempt" status issue of churches that openly advocate and pursue specific legislative goals? Isn't there a difference between "don't do this" and "sign this petition to force a public vote to make sure this is illegal"?

ss427 said on February 2, 2012 at 4:56 PM

You know, if WWII had been fought on our side of the water, our cities destroyed, ten's of millions of humans slaughtered, Andrews would have an even smaller following. In Europe religion has little validity. Most remaining churches have few attendee's. Logic says what kind on god would do this to us? It sure wasn't a white man with a beard floating behind a cloud in the sky, it was us. Evil us. The evil that still trys to control us. The evil that points to some of us and tells the rest to hate those who don't follow the finger-pointers rules. Why? So the finger pointer can get free money from the flock. It's an old story that began long before the witch doctor. It succeeds because of ignorance. Yep, our public schools don't allow these charlatan's inside so the finger pointers say public schools are evil. Then they brainwash our youth in their own "schools". AND WE LET THEM GET AWAY WITH IT! Also, the first commandment of religion is to control our sexuality. Any exceptions?

oneeso said on February 2, 2012 at 4:53 PM

What an idiot. I just showed the article to my mom who loves to give money to her christian church. She said she'd keep the money next month and go buy herself and me, and my sis, a Starbucks card. My mom is great!!!

whispah said on February 2, 2012 at 4:51 PM

Pastor should practice love as he was hired to do. He probably wants publicity for his church and followers of his beliefs to donate. Maybe Starbucks should boycott his church.

msbetty said on February 2, 2012 at 4:41 PM

Attention angry, hate-monger Christians: Do NOT tell me where I can or cannot enjoy my coffee. Do NOT tell me where I can buy books or software. Do NOT tell me where I can get my health care. Mind your own business. I will patronize whatever businesses I choose -- especially those who value diversity. Maybe consider using all the energy that you've invested in hate and use it for GOOD. People are homeless, starving, illiterate, dying of horrific diseases. Children are being abused. And trying to purge the world of gays and lesbians is your biggest concern? Shame on you. WWJD? He certainly wouldn't be spewing venom towards people who aren't hurting anyone. It's absolutely shameful to use the the name of God, Jesus and/or the Bible as justification to judge and torment others. I've seen more people harmed in the name of religion than anything else. Let's not for get the story of little Hana Williams...who died at the hands of ultra-Christians.

btvsrcks said on February 2, 2012 at 4:34 PM

How is it sad to finally have equal rights for gays in our state? You bigots want it to go for a vote because the 'majority should rule.' However, if that was done during the civil rights movement we'd still have black and white sinks, toilets, restaurants, etc. Take your hate to another state.

yeoman said on February 2, 2012 at 4:20 PM

Maybe we should boycott Pastor Steven Andrews, what Isomeone does on their private time is their time; God didn't give anyone the right to pass judgement on anyone, so who made him God? So I guess if every hospital in the State endorse gay marriages then a lot of Christian would die in the street. Pastor Andrews go preach someplace else, we're adults and can decide for ourselves.

Lisa_Marie_Vf62 said on February 2, 2012 at 4:06 PM

11th commandment: Thou shalt not drink Starbucks per Pastor Steven Andrew....Realllllly???? C'mon.

007jayme said on February 2, 2012 at 4:05 PM

Those in office did what they did: voted yes, why you ask, they wanted to stay in there office - sad day in wash state

007jayme said on February 2, 2012 at 4:03 PM

No person or government person has the right to change God law. Gov only went there to collect money.

007jayme said on February 2, 2012 at 4:02 PM

We need to call, members of the house, and say not, say no. Need to stand for our faith. Those that voted yes, need to have removed from there spot, there office, that is the down fall of USA

plungginalong said on February 2, 2012 at 3:47 PM

People should believe this man named Jesus did walk this planet to teach good to one another...But the Bible was not wrote by Jesus or God...It was wrote by some ole men many, many years after Jesus died on the cross. And before the Bible was wrote by these ole men, yes there was Homosexuals way before Jesus or the Bible was wrote and they wrote in the Bible anything they wanted to punish people for not believing in what they wanted them too. If people followed the Bible many people would need to be stoned to death, lets look at all the people having sex out of wedlock and having babies, we would have to stone all them.. And I repeat the Bible wasn't wrote by God of Jesus, it was wrote by Humans.

bna73 said on February 2, 2012 at 3:40 PM

Pastor Steven Andrew--You are an idiot.

newlogin86 said on February 2, 2012 at 3:35 PM

QWERTY said on February 2, 2012 at 2:27 PM.................................THUMBS UP! :-)

wrenavery said on February 2, 2012 at 3:33 PM

I certainly hope the guy who quoted Leviticus has never cut his forelocks, or seen or spoken to his wife during her menstrual times, or eaten pork or shellfish. I could go on. Otherwise, he'd have to accept the fact that he has no business sticking his nose in the business of other people.

QWERTY said on February 2, 2012 at 3:27 PM

Well, every religious book was wrote by a man and is not the word of "god". Why is it none of the books ever mention the dinosaurs? I wonder if it is because man wrote the books and I don't get why people follow the "teaching" of some random people that claimed they talked to "god". One reason people like to follow these books is because they feel they need answers about what happens when the end comes, others use it to push their own beliefs on people by quoting bits and peices of what people wrote. Honestly, if a person today said god spoke to them and you should follow his or hers teachings none of you would believe this person and would cast them crazy. Why? Why are they more crazy then people before your exsistence? Marriage use to be a religious event, but in america it has become a contract. If people with a diffrent sexual orientation want to be married in america, then you shouldn't see anything wrong with that. This is the land of the free and people forget that.

newlogin86 said on February 2, 2012 at 3:20 PM

gooch98 said on February 2, 2012 at 2:14 PM For those gays that say they are Christians. Leviticus 20:13 13; If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Every gay person be afraid of the boogeyman book Leviticus written 2000 years ago!!!! Hey Gooch moron, slavery also was cool back then, when that was written, should we bring it back, too???

newlogin86 said on February 2, 2012 at 3:18 PM

mr_conservative said on February 2, 2012 at 11:56 AM I don't drink coffee, but these large corporations should be ashamed of themselves for supporting sexual perversion........................................................................................................................................" Jealous they are getting more action than you I see!

newlogin86 said on February 2, 2012 at 3:14 PM

darks said on February 2, 2012 at 10:07 AM That is sad that Starbucks supports gay marriage, one of my favorite coffee places, so guess I won't be buying from them, find a new one to go to. Pretty sad,,,, But that is the way it goes.. loose a good place go find someplace new that believes man and women marriage................." Oh so you believe in Man and women marriage, polygamy huh???? I doubt Starbucks will miss "loosing" a customer like you (intentional misspell to copy darks genius.

gooch98 said on February 2, 2012 at 3:14 PM

For those gays that say they are Christians. Leviticus 20:13 13; If a man also lie with mankind, as he lieth with a woman, both of them have committed an abomination: they shall surely be put to death; their blood shall be upon them.

newlogin86 said on February 2, 2012 at 3:13 PM

Based on the support for this bill on this blog vs those against (which I bet gives a pretty strong indicator of the masses).. I have no worries Starbucks will lose any noticeable business.. the minute an addict wants his fix, the "boycott" becomes boring!!!

Coug9 said on February 2, 2012 at 3:13 PM

Support your locally owned coffee stand.....money will stay local. Every dollar you spend at Starbucks goes to their coorporate HQ. All of you "Occupy" folks and Christians alike, should never spend a dime at a Starbucks anyways, regardless of their political views.

StevenSea said on February 2, 2012 at 3:12 PM

Why is King5 giving this guy notice? What are his credentials? He's the 'pastor' of nothing but himself, and he's quoted as saying the First Amendment applies to Christians only, not other religions! His ideas don't merit media attention.

newlogin86 said on February 2, 2012 at 3:11 PM

gizmo1 said on February 2, 2012 at 1:04 PM..............Another low IQ bigot, thinking homosexuality is a choice. Yeah everyone chooses every day the more difficult, ridiculed, attacked and judged lifestyle. yeah, uh huh... And your argument is so lame. So, you admit the bible written by men, then go off and say "God never says"?? The real story is "The men that wrote it says the character in Chapter 1 called God, never says"

wrenavery said on February 2, 2012 at 3:09 PM

Guess the Pastor and his flock should move out of Washington.

newlogin86 said on February 2, 2012 at 2:56 PM

@colesweetpea said on February 2, 2012 at 1:10 PM.................... Another great example of the narrow minded that proves racists and bigots on average have a lower IQ than liberal thinkers who passed this bill! Bigots fear change!

newlogin86 said on February 2, 2012 at 2:55 PM

@peisenhower said on February 2, 2012 at 1:32 PM.... What a big crybaby you are!!! Is Gregroire in the Senate?? NO. Is she in the House? No!!! IT will take her a whopping 30 seconds of her time to sign it. Get over it hater!

vickied said on February 2, 2012 at 2:54 PM

Pretty soon there isn't going to be many places a Christian can go if they keep up THIS kind of boycotting... I realize they are against this kind of stuff, but really?

newlogin86 said on February 2, 2012 at 2:53 PM

LOL 80% may identify themselves as "christian" but do you seriously think 80% of them follow a true christian lifestyle?? LOLOL. I think Starbucks will survive without this pastor's hate.

Daytrader said on February 2, 2012 at 2:51 PM

I wonder if Jesus Christ drank coffee?

thinkinabout said on February 2, 2012 at 2:47 PM

Starbucks, here I come! I feel like I could easily increase my patronage of Starbucks to help make up for the mean-spirited Christians who seem to be filled with hate. Maybe they should switch to decaf. Any Christians with a loving spirit might want to make some noise against this boycott foolishness. Time to separate yourselves from these crazy, vicious pastors and their followers folks.

David_Reed638 said on February 2, 2012 at 2:46 PM

What a shame to see this level of bigotry coming from the pastor - the leader of a Christian group. Seems like Pastor Andrew would better serve his flock by teaching compassion and humility. This is the part of society that frightens me the most - not that a couple of men want to get married to each other.

JacksonM said on February 2, 2012 at 2:45 PM

I wonder why that Pastor is wasting his time with Starbucks boycotts when there are still so many pedophile priests in the church. Is he saying Starbucks is a more important issue than the safety and well being of children? I guess the church isn't what we thought it was after all. Starbucks bad, pedophilia ok. That is the message for today. Thanks, pastor!

mickeygirl03 said on February 2, 2012 at 2:44 PM

I just don't get it. What is the big deal is someone is gay or not? Everyone has the right to be happy. We're all human. God loves us no matter what!

StevenSea said on February 2, 2012 at 2:36 PM

Conservative Christian friends, are you able to explain why you think the Golden Rule does not apply in this one circumstance?

aziza said on February 2, 2012 at 2:32 PM

How pathetic.

peisenhower said on February 2, 2012 at 2:32 PM

I agree with gizmo1. Thank you. Thanks to our govenor who has made Washington a place you can no longer be proud of, she has lied to us for years and now she says she has followed her conscience to pass this mess through. She would have left a better legacy by working and passing our bills for educations, medical and finances. Shame on you Christine. You are disgusting!

Silversearayn said on February 2, 2012 at 2:25 PM

I think this pastor brain's matter is as dark as Starbukc's coffee and what two faces man he is! This is NOT a man of God and everyone should BOYCOT him and his church and all of those closed minded people that follows his estupid ideas!

gizmo1 said on February 2, 2012 at 2:13 PM

fierylynx...WELL SAID! Your comments are the most sensible and right on about this issue. Thanks and I agree totally!

colesweetpea said on February 2, 2012 at 2:10 PM

I don't drink that nasty coffee. Although, same sex relationships are sick.

Elwood said on February 2, 2012 at 2:08 PM

I avoid Christians like the plague. I have found in the past that once they realise that they can't convert you you are worthless to them, and often become their enemy. In the meantime you are just doing the same old thing, and hoping they will just go away and leave you alone - but suddenly you have a vendetta on your hands. Crazies like this guy are just trouble makers. I always question their motives when they come out like this. Hidden motives and agendas and all that.

josh_iii said on February 2, 2012 at 2:06 PM

I agree, lets boycott Christianity. It's all a bunch of BS anyway, and the "good book" is obviously written by people, not "God". There are way too many things in that book that just don't make sense. Adam and Eve were the first people on earth? and that's it? Really? Didn't they have two sons, who took wives? Where did the wives come from???? What about prehistoric man? They aren't mentioned in the bible. And how do we know that "God" created all of this in 6 days? I would think if "God" gave us this ridiculous book, that it would all make sense without having to take a huge leap of faith and overlook the glaring holes in the story.

gizmo1 said on February 2, 2012 at 2:04 PM

gesus...you're WAY off regarding your comments about the Bible. It was written by many men who walked the same planet we do and they weren't paid for it. It never ceases to amaze me, when topics like this come up, how many people start bashing the Bible, religion, Christians, etc. I'd like to set something straight. NO WHERE in the Bible does God ever give men a right to judge others or their choices. He gave us ALL a free will to make our own choices. Not all of those choices are right, moral, or legal. This falls in one of those catagories; however, that's HIS right to judge, not ours. If people choose to live in a gay/lesbian lifestyle, that's their choice. God didn't create same sex marriage, BUT he loves people who chose it just the same and will Judge their choice on judgement day, just as He will the rest of us. I don't agree with same sex marriage, but won't bash those who do.

phredphlinstone said on February 2, 2012 at 2:03 PM

Pastor Andrew I challenge you to come up with scripture quoting Christ (no one else) that justifies your hate of gays or any these non belivers you talk of.

blueheeler said on February 2, 2012 at 2:03 PM

Pastor Andrew...you're so closed minded and brainwashed it's not even funny. While you're boycotting Starbucks, you might want to add Microsoft, Vulcan, Nike, Amazon, RealNetworks, Group Health and Concur to your list since they also suppport marriage of the same sex.

gizmo1 said on February 2, 2012 at 1:43 PM

nguminh..."Pastor Andrew needs to focus on what he teach rather than play politic." Pastor Andrew did nothing. Our wacked governor started this mess. She should have stuck to her job...leave the gay/lesbian issue as it was and figure out how to get this state out of the financial nightmare she got it in to.

gottabebacon said on February 2, 2012 at 1:37 PM

Curious, why don't the Christians call for a boycott on all products made in godless, communist China?

nguminh said on February 2, 2012 at 1:30 PM

Pastor Andrew needs to focus on what he teach rather than play politic.

sharyn said on February 2, 2012 at 1:30 PM

Let them boycott it, those of us who believe in equality shall buy two a day to make up for the ignorant

mr_conservative said on February 2, 2012 at 1:27 PM

Looks like Hell's only half full.

tedco959 said on February 2, 2012 at 1:20 PM

IT'S NOT A BOOK! IT'S A WEAPON. A weapon aimed right at the hearts and minds of the weak and the desperate. It will give us control of them. If we want to rule more than one small, town, we have to have it. People will come from all over, they'll do exactly what I tell 'em if the words are from the book. It's happened before and it'll happen again. All we need is that book..... Carnegie (Gary Oldman) from "Book of Eli"

Conseula said on February 2, 2012 at 1:14 PM

I brought up Pastor Steven Andrews /USA Christian Ministries giving a hate seromon on gays.. I have know any number of gays and lesbians in my life time..All spiritual, kind, loving, forgiving and speak no hate..I watched this Pastor of Hate and find he is awfully "sweet" and he sure fits the bill of some of the gay demeanors with his body language and presentation of his sermon..Only my opinion, assessment. I wonder if he might be a "recovering gay," a success Dr. Bachmann's clinic of cure for gays and lesbians?

allsmilesaround said on February 2, 2012 at 1:13 PM

"I call for a nationwide boycott of christian churches, and of giving money to these same churches." traveldoc A GREAT IDEA!!

traveldoc said on February 2, 2012 at 1:05 PM

I call for a nationwide boycott of christian churches, and of giving money to these same churches.

Conseula said on February 2, 2012 at 12:56 PM

WELL! Instead of getting a small Star Bucks coffee, I will be going for the Grande! These so called servants of God that preach hate from the pulpit don't work for my God..The good Pastor preaches 80% of Americans are Christians and if he thinks that will affect SB's business..well, only time will tell. But I'm not going to hold my breath. I find the many Bible thumpers I have know in my life time are hypocrites..I called them Sunday Christians. Got to church on Sunday, spend the day worshiping God and loving one another and then at their bridge club gossip about what so and so wore an ugly dress to church, or about hearing one of the spouses was having an affair..I cannot believe the hate mail I received from an Evangelical Zealot acquaintance regarding Obama and Gays..Always quoting scriptures and interpreting them the way they see fit..Usually, what ther pastor is preaching from the pulpit and like good sheep, they follow him.

gesus said on February 2, 2012 at 12:56 PM

It's funny how literal people take a book that was writteen 1600 years ago, by a male cleric that was paid by a church, in a dead language, then transcribed several times over many languages. But I'm sure it all correct. Yeah right. King5 I'm not attacking anyone, or using inappropriate language. My comments here are on topic. By refusing to post this you are taking away my right to the 1st amendment.

mr_conservative said on February 2, 2012 at 12:56 PM

I don't drink coffee, but these large corporations should be ashamed of themselves for supporting sexual perversion.

tedco959 said on February 2, 2012 at 12:50 PM

Speak not to me of blasphemy, man; I'd strike the sun if it insulted me. Look ye, Starbuck, all visible objects are but as pasteboard masks. Some inscrutable yet reasoning thing puts forth the molding of their features. The white whale tasks me; he heaps me. Yet he is but a mask. 'Tis the thing behind the mask I chiefly hate; the malignant thing that has plagued mankind since time began; the thing that maws and mutilates our race, not killing us outright but letting us live on, with half a heart and half a lung. Capt. Ahab

chiapetto said on February 2, 2012 at 12:44 PM

Pastor Andrew is one Christian that gives all other Christians a SERIOUSLY bad name. How hypocritical! HYPOCRITICAL! So, I say, all customers of Starbucks, Microsoft, Nike, Google, etc should vow to withdraw all support of Christian religous organizations. Now, I am not gay, but by golly, who am I to judge those that are. I see this as a civil rights issue. So, Christians such as Pastor Andrew are AGAINST civil rights? If so, then boycott them, and the federal government should immediately revoke their tax-exempt status.

gesus said on February 2, 2012 at 12:41 PM

It's funny how literal people can take a book that was written 1600 years ago by a male cleric, paid by a church written, in a dead language, then transcribed several times in many different languages. But I'm positive that it's all accurate!! Yeah right.

quadcrazy2935107 said on February 2, 2012 at 12:24 PM

It's religious haters like this, that gives religion a bad name. Every time one of these nut jobs professes his judgment and hate for something, it makes people run from religion. I am spiritual but will never be religious because of people like this.

gritz said on February 2, 2012 at 12:21 PM

Think I will first boycott the Church for allowing and the subsequent cover up of the systematic rape of teen boys by Church Elders.

InfoSourceress said on February 2, 2012 at 12:15 PM

My intentions is to double the frequency of shopping at the businesses that supported this bill. I comment these businesses for making the hard decision to be supportive of what is a basic civil right and I will encourage all that I know to do the same.

medicalknowhow said on February 2, 2012 at 12:12 PM

Anything put in the hands of Christine(Governor) will be signed. She doesn't have anything to lose as this is her last year in office. The same with the President.

welizat said on February 2, 2012 at 12:12 PM

Yeah, Starbucks has been off my radar for a week. Going to look for ways to get microsoft out of my life too. The rest of the contributors, don't even recognize their names. Love gay people just as much as I would any other random person, but can't go along with this terrible thing that's happening to our country. If I go along with it, I'm guilty of it. Bye-bye SB. Bill Gates is a humanist, just like Hitler. Known that for a long time. How depressing this all is. Don't think it won't come back to bite us, thanks people.

palinsux said on February 2, 2012 at 12:07 PM

Fewer bible thumpers at Starbucks?! I'll go more often!

phil49 said on February 2, 2012 at 12:07 PM

Marriage equality is a civil rights issue, not a religious issue. This country will never be run by the church. The days of religious persecution for anyones beliefs or non beliefs are over... The new "political activiist" pastor wants to boycot Starbucks for exercising their right of freedom of choice in their beliefs. Is he going to take on Microsoft next, and then all the other corporations which support our freedom of choice and freedom from religion. Churches are free to influence the lives of their members. But this actrivity is crossing the line between church and state. Many Catholics use birth control and favor marriage equality. Many churches are out of touch with society and are losing members because of their outdated illogical practices.

RealOpinion said on February 2, 2012 at 11:45 AM

darks: How about you not be a sheeple and make your own decisions? You do realize you are joining a dumb movement that prevents people who love each other to have equal civil rights? Is it okay in your eyes that black people have equal rights too? Marriage is a failed institution that has a divorce rate of over 50%, what does anyone care if people who love each other marry each other... Marriage, like Christmas is a secular tradition that all should be allowed to experience.. why? Because that's why we live in America so people can have some sort of freedom. Christianity is obviously man made and has no right to dictate laws in America.. Keep religion out of schools and out of our government. Its a sad day in America when a religious group is trying to prevent people from being happy in life. Makes me sick...

Loki_ said on February 2, 2012 at 11:44 AM

Wahhhhhhh. :p

How narrow-minded. We don't avoid products and businesses because the owners go to church. But some of the comments here are pretty nice and it's good to see this guy doesn't have as much support for his anti-this and hate-that as he'd like.

fwkc63 said on February 2, 2012 at 11:39 AM

Way to go Starbucks! I for one will continue to purchase my latte from them!! I LOVE God, but hate religious freaks!! My God is an understanding, non judgemental loving God!! This Pastor is nothing but an overzelous hypocritical nut job!!

agarmy said on February 2, 2012 at 11:38 AM

I love how the most religious of people are always the first to judge. They are always the most hateful, they want you to view the world through their eyes, and their eyes only. Just be open, and remember, you will be judged just as much as the next person should that be your belief.

vffrwm said on February 2, 2012 at 11:35 AM

Starbucks is entitled to their opinion just like I am mine. It's not Starbucks that is the problem, it's the pond scum in Olympia thats the problem and the good folks at the church could best spend their time and efforts on getting them un-elected.

bfailing21667331 said on February 2, 2012 at 11:34 AM

nut job

bluemax2001 said on February 2, 2012 at 11:30 AM

The religious extremists in this country are sounding more and more like the Taliban.

andyblue555 said on February 2, 2012 at 11:30 AM

fierylynx. Thank you. You stand out among those that openly express their contempt here and reading your comment not only shows people that you can be religious and not feel the need to chastise others but also really brightened not only this thread but my day. Again, Thank you. : )

newsjunkie13 said on February 2, 2012 at 11:26 AM

Love you neighbor as yourself, treat those as you would want to be treated, etc. From my christian upbringing, this is what I took away. I truly don't understand why people feel threatened by who loves who and what people do in their own private lives. None of these judgemental people are perfect and maybe they should be more concerned about themselves and their own inner demons instead of lashing out at everyone else. I think the only thing threatening the state of marriage is those who use it over and over again and don't take their vows seriously. All the straight people who get married and then get dviorced months later or who cheat on their spoouses over and over are more of a threat than anything. As for Starbucks, I stopped going there a long time ago because they threaten the state of coffee and how it tastes! Support local shops instead and learn to drink better coffee!

missjean said on February 2, 2012 at 11:18 AM

This news only makes my Starbucks coffee taste better.

fierylynx said on February 2, 2012 at 11:18 AM

hg

fierylynx said on February 2, 2012 at 11:17 AM

Andyblue555: I am a Christian and I do NOT support the bigoted, non-accepting hatred spewed by this pastor. True Christians (just like true Muslims, Buddhists, Jews, etc) should be peaceful, accepting and forgiving. They may not agree with someones sexual preference, way of life, choices regarding abortion, etc - but we should never shun them, look down on them, bomb them, attack them, judge them or condemn them (lest we "be judged and be found wanting"!!). BTW - I am pro-same-sex marriage, pro-life (primarily because I am adopted and I'm grateful that I was given a chance to have a fantastic life instead of being aborted; and I would never EVER think poorly or judge someone who made the choice to have an abortion - that is a difficult decision to make and they need our support and love, not our venom), pro-alcohol, and against narrow minded judgemental people!

rubydog said on February 2, 2012 at 11:14 AM

I FIRMLY believe that Marriage is only for Man/Woman combo. However, I do feel bad about how this Pastor came across. If we boycott stuff, we can cause people to lose jobs (well, not a huge corporation as Starbucks). I'm a Christian, I'm a Republican, I'm pro-life, I'm pro Marriage between man/woman. But, I do not judge nor boycott because of peoples opinions. If I don't agree with something, it's fine. I'm not going to "hate" someone because they have different views than me. If we all had the same views it would be a pretty boring place to live.

darks said on February 2, 2012 at 11:07 AM

That is sad that Starbucks supports gay marriage, one of my favorite coffee places, so guess I won't be buying from them, find a new one to go to. Pretty sad,,,, But that is the way it goes.. loose a good place go find someplace new that believes man and women marriage.

G8tr376 said on February 2, 2012 at 11:06 AM

Again we have a "Man of God" calling down hell fire and brimstone as if he were a prophet while after reading his GOOD BOOK he has failed to read the part that says "love your brother as yourself" and to understand the instruction in this very loving book that as Christians, Showing love and living separate but within the world, not force change in it by forcing others to live the same way. The term " They will know us by our love" is lost in the rambelings of men and women who believe that they are the VOICE OF GOD and try to force you to live like them! It is this behavour in the religous world of Christanity that makes me want to remain detached from that group of people as a whole and serve my God in the way I have been taught. It is not for the Christian to force Christanity on the people. It is not for the Muslim to force his beliefe on anyone else nor is it the way of Budda to make slaves of it's believers! Good advertisement for Starbucks tho... free coffee for the man!

king5fan8817 said on February 2, 2012 at 11:05 AM

How can any person belong to a religion or believe in a God, Santa Claus or whatever, when that God, The Easter Bunny or whatever, doesn't include all peoples. It's a judgemental attitude. What is so hard to understand. Religion only serves the religous when the religious want it to. All religious beliefs and policies change when the followers need it to. U.S. is 80% christian? Possibly 200 years ago, before we were able to question it's tenets. I know it's difficult for people to accept that maybe their beliefs aren't popular anymore, but all Christians see the righting on the wall. The Christian ranks are getting smaller every year and hopefully my grandchildren will not have to have a discussion about how someone saw the baby Jesus's image on their meatlover's pizza.

Irishwolf said on February 2, 2012 at 11:00 AM

I'm going to go to Starbuck's more often and boycot organized religion

andyblue555 said on February 2, 2012 at 10:57 AM

I seriously do not believe that good Christians carry the same hatred for their fellow man and feel the need to lash out. Could I be wrong? Does this pastor speak for all Christians? Time will tell. But I have my doubts since so many religious people have come out in favor of gay marriage and equal rights for all. : )

whispah said on February 2, 2012 at 10:56 AM

pastor, everyone is entitled to their opinion, but going so far as to publicly condemn a business and asking that others follow suit is only showing people what a bigot you are. If you are so against what people do with their own bodies and lives, then shame on you, it is not your business. If you are so anti-gay then you might as well stop buying anything from anywhere, because you never know who is gay that might have processed your communion wafer or made your robe. Oh, and say hi to all the priests out there that have been in the paper recently for certain crimes against minors.

WaterGirl said on February 2, 2012 at 10:25 AM

My Starbucks was swamped today. 80%?? What world does he live in. Certainly not mine.

whitefishglo987 said on February 2, 2012 at 10:14 AM

"In a non-scientific poll on KING5.com, 12 percent of people said they would never buy products again from a company that supported same-sex marriage, while 51 percent said they were more likely to buy products from those companies. " Definitely right on! Just got back from a local Starbucks here in Seattle and business was absolutely lined up out the door - even more than usual. Tough to find a place to sit. Thank you Starbucks, Amazon, Microsoft, Apple et al for your consistent and unflinching support of diversity, fairness and authentic family values. You did the right thing and it shows.

shoreline said on February 2, 2012 at 9:58 AM

Well, here's your chance Christian extremists! Time to put your money where your mouth is! Take a good look at the list of Companies who support the gay marriage Bill. Yep, Starbucks is there. So is Nike, Microsoft, Google, and the Seattle Restaurant Alliance. Pastor Andrews is a goofball. How many good Christians will he be sending to unemployment if his so called "boycott" were to actually happen? That type of "Christian" is not what this country needs.

collegeguy said on February 2, 2012 at 9:54 AM

Lets boycott any Christians that boycotts Starbucks. Given that by boycotting Starbucks, they themselves are failing to follow God's word but passing judgement on others for their boycott of Starbucks for supporting something they don't approve of. They are violating God's word quite well on their own and need to be boycotted for it as well. Feck off Pastor Steven Andrews.