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PSE customers to pay for storm and more

by LINDA BYRON / KING 5 News

KING5.com

Posted on February 1, 2012 at 11:46 PM

Updated Thursday, Feb 2 at 8:32 AM

BELLEVUE, Wash. -- Last month’s snow and ice storm didn’t just leave hundreds of thousands of customers in the dark; it wreaked havoc on Puget Sound Energy’s power system.  The tab for bringing in crews and making repairs is still being tallied, but could easily be in the tens of millions of dollars.  And who will pay?  Customers—in the form of rate increases.

“When there’s a storm, it’s something all customers pay for.  You pay for electricity and the ability to fix what’s broken and that’s reflected in all our bills, “ said Andy Wappler, Vice President of Corporate Affairs for Puget Sound Energy. 

Many customers probably don’t realize that they’re still paying for the last big storm—the Hanukkah Eve Storm of 2006 cost PSE more than $90 million in repairs.  Despite being fined for their poor response, PSE still got a rate increase which customers will be paying until 2017.  The utility is collecting about $663,000 per month from customers.  That’s about 34 cents per month from the average residential customer.  

Bellevue resident Norm Hansen doesn’t like the way PSE passes along storm costs to customers.

“The thing I don’t like about this is that there doesn’t seem to be a real good motivator for PSE to do better because they get paid—they don’t take a hit,” said Hansen. 

Last June, Puget Sound Energy requested a separate rate increase, unrelated to storms, of 8.1 percent for electricity, $5.78 for the average residential customer and a 3.6 percent increase for gas, an average of $2.95 per month.  The Washington Utilities and Transportation Commission has the authority to approve that request or modify it.  The Commission held a hearing in Bellevue Wednesday night to hear what customers had to say.  

Lisa Clark of Oak Harbor is one customer who opposes the increase.  

“Be realistic, we can’t go in and say I’d like an 8 percent raise.  I don’t think it’s reasonable for us to take that [increase] on,” said Clark.  

Puget Sound Energy promised improvements after the 2006 storm in which 70 percent of its 1 million customers lost power.  PSE conceded it needed to get crews to downed lines more quickly and give customers a better idea of how long they would remain in the dark. 

Wappler said that PSE did a much better job this time.  About 40 percent of PSE customers lost power in last month’s storm.  But many did not get power back for days.  Wappler said the storm lasted 8 days and was difficult to manage because it started with snow, followed by wind, ice, and then more wind.  

Puget Sound Energy doesn’t just have a problem getting power restored after big storms.  A review of PSE’s own Service Quality Report Cards from 2006-2010, shows that the utility failed to reach its own target four out of five times.  PSE said that data was not yet available for 2011. 

Puget Sound Energy is the state’s largest and oldest energy utility, with a 6,000 square mile service area covering parts of six counties.   

Customers are just hoping the wallop of last month won’t be repeated because winter isn’t over yet.

 

 

 

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norseman61 said on February 3, 2012 at 5:20 PM

In the early 1900's in northern Wisconsin, farmers from Finland believed area banks took advantage of these hard working people . What did they do? formed co-ops and credit unions returning profits to its members. That was a non- capitalist form of survival. In 1948 there was a big fight between power capitalist from the west side while those living in eastern WA formed county PUD's. cost per kWh today about .02 cents/kWh.

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serve said on February 3, 2012 at 8:43 AM

It appears that PSE is not trimming, or cutting trees near power lines so that they can clean up after a storm to get a power rate increase.

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rnl52 said on February 2, 2012 at 11:59 PM

They don't have this problem as much in BC. If your trees are encroaching their lines, they will get cut....no permission necessary.

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ThinkN-Do said on February 2, 2012 at 10:38 PM

Let's see, $90 million for the 2006 storm, they're collecting $663,000 a month. How much did this storm cost? As I stated, in areas that are high risks, it would likely prove cost effective in the long run.

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superd said on February 2, 2012 at 10:33 PM

@ThinkN-Do - This always comes up but people don't realize it would cost billions to bury all power lines. It's just not practical from a cost perspective. Our rates would be 10 times what they are now. Tree trimming is a better option.

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ThinkN-Do said on February 2, 2012 at 10:25 PM

This is a tough one, nature is the culprit and nature is unpredictable. Why are there problems on a recurring basis during large storms? Because the lines are not underground? Guess we know the solution to the problem, don't we? Of course, eventually, that would mean a lot of people would be out of work permanently. I don't have a problem with paying for the repair costs (even though I was not effected by any outages). I do have a problem with employees at any level including CEO getting a pay increase greater than the cola percent the government releases. I also have a problem with constantly repeating the same mistakes, rather than burying lines; especially in areas where there are high incidents of downed lines!

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superd said on February 2, 2012 at 9:12 PM

@serve - A lot of the trees are on private property and you have to get property owners permission first. People love their trees but then complain when the power goes out.

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gerbie said on February 2, 2012 at 8:15 PM

PSE should take on all the extra cost for damages, especially since they themselves cut the vegataion management budget 3years ago, cutting 3 person crews to 2 and not keeping apprentices working, 3 man crews they only want groundman in a postion where an apprentice should be.... Either way maintainence on the lines is the responibilty of the utility, rate payers already cover this. They no longer have in house crews they subcontract to thier own contractor....Potelco is owned by the same company as PSE and so is Infrasource so they bill themselves...... Also all this storm damage is being covered by FEMA. All the OT is covered by FEMA as well as the work that is still being down. It was PSE decision to cut back on vegatation management and cut back on the tree trimming, the lines in Thurston county that were damaged were not trimmed, although it was reported that it was trimmed....it wasn't this occured in 2009. This is PSE's fault!!!! Jess Jones needs to investigate

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serve said on February 2, 2012 at 8:02 PM

I say cut the trees. Some able bodied guys, some chain saws, could have some good businesses going selling fire wood. There are a zillion trees along the power lines. What do you want, power or trees?

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superd said on February 2, 2012 at 6:41 PM

A little education for some of you posting (@southlakeunion): PSE was formed by a merger between Puget Power and Washington Natural Gas back in 1997. The electric side of PSE has been around for over 100 years. PSE (and formerly Puget Power) used to be an investor owned utility with shareholders all over the county and world. The profits used to go to the shareholders. PSE was bought by an Australian/Canadian investment firm for $30 a share back in 2008. Their profits now go to Canadian pension funds. PSE is regulated by the Washington Utilities and Trade Commission. Any rate increase must be approved by the WUTC. PSE is not the evil monster some of you make them out to be. They provide a life essential service to over a million people. BTW, I was a former shareholder and miss my quarterly dividends.

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CARNOLIAN said on February 2, 2012 at 6:37 PM

Worked for a Utility forever, STORM DAMAGE WAS COVERED AND PADDED BY INSURANCE. Who are they kidding now????

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snakepliskin said on February 2, 2012 at 6:26 PM

PSE does not own the trees that fell on the powerlines. The customers need to pay for this, either they or the governments own the trees. Self inflicted damage. There is a solution to lessen the impact of future storms. Bury the power lines, this is expensive and the customers will have to pay for it. Or, customers can cut down every tree that is a potential for falling across the lines.

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medicalknowhow said on February 2, 2012 at 6:00 PM

One wonders if getting small generators and Gerbils to run could create enough energy to run the electrical needs of the average household! :>

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btvsrcks said on February 2, 2012 at 4:40 PM

The last one costs 34 cents per customer per month. Really? You are crying over 34 cents a month? LOL Honestly, I am more angry at them not getting power restored to us within a day or two. 34 cents I can manage. Having them run properly is the bigger issue.

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nguminh said on February 2, 2012 at 3:58 PM

milk the cow.

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ankh5 said on February 2, 2012 at 3:46 PM

PSE and City Light - you are being put on notice. Try to install smartmeters on my house and you will have a war on your hands.

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Daytrader said on February 2, 2012 at 3:06 PM

I think saying its the largest and oldest energy utility covers about 99% of PSE problems

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medicalknowhow said on February 2, 2012 at 1:23 PM

Personal wind towers for residents. Solar panels and anything else to put big PSE out of business. I personally think they are too big for their own good! We need choices and smaller companie that will focus on the residents, not their own agenda.

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zaxxon7469 said on February 2, 2012 at 1:13 PM

Dear PSE-You the corperate enitity known as Puget Sound Energy a clomgomerate of smaller componies combines decades ago to provide better service, is also tasked by the federal and state government to to maintain the National Power Grid, Obvoiusly you are failing, does any other bidders wish to take control away from you at this time, because they can. Please note your contracted to provide poer 24/7 to every place that requests power from you. Youe contract has stipulation for "acts of God" but even then you need to retore power faster than you did. Also at what amount of your money is going to your Corperate laedership that should be going to maintenance?

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fwkc63 said on February 2, 2012 at 1:05 PM

Thats right 472pld !!! If she declared a "state of emergency"..than PSE should get a bail out from that, not the consumers who had nothing to do with it!!

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472pld said on February 2, 2012 at 12:53 PM

These people and PSE affected by this should be going to the Gov. She delclared a State of Emergency and PSE should be getting refunded by the State, not the people.

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kingster said on February 2, 2012 at 12:52 PM

Every time they call for conservation, people do - so much so that PSE raises the rates because people didn't use enough. Maybe it's time to cut timber that can fall on power lines, regardless of who owns what. It is either that, or put things underground where they are out of reach of trees. I agree that PSE needs to feel the bite as much as their consumers in order to have incentives to do something to prevent people being endangered by week-long outages. The only fair solutions are expensive all around and should not leave either side unbitten.

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ankh5 said on February 2, 2012 at 12:49 PM

@s10maniac Like most anti -labor corporations in this country, PSE downsized as someone else already mentioned, so that when they need people in emergency situations, it's the customer that suffers, usually more than once. Add to that a lack of regulation, and you have a classic case of monopoly capitalism. As far as trimming trees goes, I've had both City Light and PSE trim trees on different properties. They butcher the trees, don't tell you when they're coming out, and your scummy neighbors steal cords of wood while you are at work. No environmental review causing them to not trim, just good old fashioned american greed.

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s10maniac said on February 2, 2012 at 12:24 PM

I am betting enviromentalist have forced PSE to do an environmental review every time they trim branches. That is why they stopped.

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s10maniac said on February 2, 2012 at 12:23 PM

I honestly can't believe electricity is as cheap as it is. Just look at all the infastructure that is needed to make it and bring it to your house. If you are tired of paying so much for electricy stop using so much!!!! Turn your heat down, take shorter showers, buy CFL's, don't leave your exterior lights on all night, replace your windows. And no I do not work for PSE!

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patwe said on February 2, 2012 at 12:19 PM

Just like everyone else, I don't like getting stuck with the bill, but I understand why it needs to be done from time to time. How many times has cities, counties and our state raised our taxes or asked for a levy to help maintain, fix or replace something? A lot more than anyone would like.

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fwkc63 said on February 2, 2012 at 12:07 PM

patwe must work for PSE!!

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patwe said on February 2, 2012 at 11:57 AM

Insurance companies don't insure utility infrastructures. So when there's a big storm, it's the utility company responsibility to fix and pay for the repairs. Although the company has shown some quarterly profits, they are carrying about $5 billion dollars in long-term debt. So, if PSE was stuck with the entire bill every time there was a big storm, the company would probably go bankrupt. So the company is not in a good financial position to pay for these storm repairs by themselves, which is why they need rate increases.

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fwkc63 said on February 2, 2012 at 11:56 AM

@Sir_Real - YOU ARE 100% CORRECT!!!

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fwkc63 said on February 2, 2012 at 11:49 AM

Greedy Bas****s!!! They rip EVERY year due to their inability to maintain the trees/branches hanging over wires! If they kept up on this task, these outages wouldn't happen to the extreme that this last storm caused! This multi million dollar company jacks our rates up EVERY year and I'm fed up with it! I think they should give US a refund for every day we went without power to their failure to do their job efficiently!!

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collegeguy said on February 2, 2012 at 9:49 AM

@serve, I remember when that maintenance used to happen where Trees where cut back from lines. Now they never seem to be and then when stuff like this happens, they have to fix it due to the lack of maintenance and then double bill us for the maintenance that should have been being done in the first place. They only seem to fix it once it is broken, and never do preventative.

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grnidmonstress said on February 2, 2012 at 9:43 AM

Really? Please explain to me how a company who posted a $103 Million dollar quarterly profit in May of last year can possibly say they need more money. Sounds like they only used that profit to line their pockets, rather than our streets. I'm beyond disgusted.

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jonjuan said on February 2, 2012 at 9:34 AM

If PSE hadn't cut to the bone they wouldn't have to call people in. But then energy hikes are good for big bonuses and have very little to do with customer satisfaction or really saving energy.

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saynotolibs said on February 2, 2012 at 9:15 AM

@Sir_Real, right on the mark. You would think that they should have insurance. It only makes sense, right? Or maybe their "insurance" is knowing that they can hike their rates.

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serve said on February 2, 2012 at 9:07 AM

Trees close to power lines should be trimmed or cut down. It doesn't make sense to keep having the same old problems with trees and limbs falling on power lines, when the trees could be logged.

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dakotanative said on February 2, 2012 at 8:55 AM

I've only had them for about 20 years, but every website I visit says they are the oldest local utility in Washington. So most people had it when they moved on. There are exceptions to everything. If they aren't the oldest, why hasn't anyone complained?

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southlakeunion said on February 2, 2012 at 8:05 AM

@dakotanative - "More than likely"??? Do your homework dude. They were NOT here before we moved in - we had a publicly owned power company that hired in-state workers to fix their system. This is OUR state and the Canadian/Australian owned PSE will go out of business if they keep doing this. Your power bill goes to pay retired people in Canada and Australia.

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southlakeunion said on February 2, 2012 at 8:03 AM

@dakotanative - NO they were NOT there when we moved in - we had a publicly owned power company that didn't just hire out of state contractors anytime they needed some 'fixin'. They bought up smaller companies, turned it into one big sloth owned by the Canadians and Australian pension funds. So - your energy bill now goes to help old retired people in Canada and Australia instead of staying in the state. This is OUR state, and PSE can take a hike if we don't like the way they are doing business.

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dakotanative said on February 2, 2012 at 7:46 AM

I had a freezer full if food that spoiled, so I had to throw it out in the snow.......oh, my bad. If you don't like PSE, move. They were there when you moved in more than likely.

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southlakeunion said on February 2, 2012 at 7:36 AM

"Ma-Bell" all over again. Goodbye regulated energy industry!

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Mingledchime said on February 2, 2012 at 6:44 AM

Poor Andy Wappler - kicked out of Channel 7 because of some weather bimbo that looks cute and caught the eye of executives only to jump right into the fire....

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bbaxter929437904 said on February 2, 2012 at 6:42 AM

I wish my HOA allowed solar panels on my roof so I could reduce my dependance on PSE!!!

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subaru said on February 2, 2012 at 5:36 AM

too bad we are locked in to PSE because if I could change power companys I would .

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Proudamerican said on February 2, 2012 at 2:54 AM

P.S.E Should punish those that lost power not those that did not make those that lost power pay the cost in bring in extra crews to restore power

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neets458 said on February 2, 2012 at 2:33 AM

2centsnow, maybe you would like to pay the cost for everyone. PSE is one of the biggest rip-offs ever. I sat in the cold, and dark for 4 days. No $50.00 for me. I had to throw everything that was in my fridge out, not to mention the freezer. You want to talk cost... That was my groceries for 2 weeks. I watched the houses 4 doors down with power. Tacoma Power. I also see Tacoma Power trimming trees all of the time. Never do see PSE out. This is not pennies for me. I have to watch every one of them. I swear, PSE asks for rate increases every time you turn aroud. CROOKS!!!! With gas going up, up up, where does it end?

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Sir_Real said on February 2, 2012 at 1:44 AM

BS! One, we declared a state of emergency, so funds can come from that. Two, each month we pay a delivery charge on a preexisting infrastructure, which PSE SHOULD be saving for say like.. a snow storm! Three, they should have insurance. You guys went into the utility business, just like everyone else pinching pennies, Deal with it!

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2centsnow said on February 2, 2012 at 1:41 AM

For one, PSE is the only utility company that offers customer several options to pay when behind on a bill or close to getting service cut, other utility companies give you one arrangement through out the year and that's it. Other's want their money now or you get disconnected. They have crews that work hard 24/7 when there is a major storm...and please don't compare them to Seattle city Lights or other smaller utility companies when giving out restoration updates...these other utilities would not know what to do with this many customers. PSE is involved in so many charities and organizations giving back to our communities. Give them a break, another 8% on your bill is probably 8 to 10 more maybe, i'm not a math wiz....this is pennies for those of you that have to have your morning joe at Starbucks:P Thank you PSE!

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atck1 said on February 2, 2012 at 12:28 AM

PSE's customers lose twice. First, we go without power for days. And then someone fines PSE and PSE passes the fine along to us customers. So in the end, we get to pay afine for having lost power. I hope that makes sense to someone, because it doesn't make sense to me.

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natedoggua said on February 2, 2012 at 12:20 AM

Enjoy that $50 bill credit that you'll just be giving right back lol

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